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Mar 27, 2012 15:28:20   #
cawanua
 
English_Wolf wrote:
When misty, select straight lines to focus on, manual mode.

Tripod is not stable at all, check the motion on the three crops, 1:1 from your original...


Well, there you are. I have a new sturdier tripod but it is heavy and not as easy to carry around as this smaller on. Thus the rational for taking "shaky" with me. I won't use it again, that's for sure. Thanks, English Wolf.

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Mar 27, 2012 17:57:53   #
cawanua
 
docrob wrote:
cawanua wrote:
donrent wrote:
There's your answer.... Sorry you missed the shot...


Guess you're right. Somehow I had it in my head that a good photographer could have circumvented the conditions with skill.


but the conditions were what attracted you to this and set the mood for the shot right? so why circumvent???


Docrob: That is also quite true. I wanted to capture the mood. Thanks for reminding me of that. Cawanua

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Mar 27, 2012 18:24:38   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
cawanua wrote:
docrob wrote:
cawanua wrote:
donrent wrote:
There's your answer.... Sorry you missed the shot...


Guess you're right. Somehow I had it in my head that a good photographer could have circumvented the conditions with skill.


but the conditions were what attracted you to this and set the mood for the shot right? so why circumvent???


Docrob: That is also quite true. I wanted to capture the mood. Thanks for reminding me of that. Cawanua


your welcome so now you see the photo is judged by how well it conveys a mood (and no one will ever have the same mood as yours). So that makes the question different than - how do i improve my focus.

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Mar 28, 2012 06:41:44   #
Turbo Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
A really sturdy tripod ( and a remote trigger) will make a huge difference in picture clarity.

Also, make sure your DOF is adequate. A building as wide and deep as that one requires at least F8 to be all in focus.

I would pick F 11 and ISO 100 and let the camera pick the shutter speed.

Try bracketing too and see how it changes the "mood"

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Mar 28, 2012 06:54:51   #
jjestar Loc: Savannah GA
 
cawanua wrote:
rpavich wrote:
cawanua wrote:


With help from others, I'm leaning toward the conditions rather than a focusing error. What is your take on this?


If this is the same shot from your other thread you might want to change your settings; you took this at 1/8 second...that's INCREDIBLY slow to hand hold.

Was it hand held?

If it was, that may have had something to do with it but the other thing that makes shots look soft is underexposing them....it makes noise and softness....

Exposure Time (1 / Shutter Speed) = 1/8 second
Lens F-Number / F-Stop = 95/10 ===> ƒ/9.5
ISO Speed Ratings = 400
quote=cawanua br br With help from others, I'm ... (show quote)


If it was, that may have had something to do with it but the other thing that makes shots look soft is underexposing them....it makes noise and softness....

I used a tripod (not a good one) and set the shudder on the timed release. I was also using aperture priority. This is getting interesting. I may have questions?
quote=rpavich quote=cawanua br br With help fr... (show quote)


The camera has a "shutter" not a shudder, as you did when you saw the outcome of your photo. Mist did not help but choosing a strong vertical or horizontal line for focusing in these conditions will help.

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Mar 28, 2012 08:47:03   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
I read on this forum that leaving Image Stabilization "on" may cause the I.S. motor to "hunt", causing jitter if the camera is mounted on a tripod.
...just a thought.

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Mar 28, 2012 09:01:03   #
cawanua
 
Turbo wrote:
A really sturdy tripod ( and a remote trigger) will make a huge difference in picture clarity.

Also, make sure your DOF is adequate. A building as wide and deep as that one requires at least F8 to be all in focus.

I would pick F 11 and ISO 100 and let the camera pick the shutter speed.

Try bracketing too and see how it changes the "mood"


Hello Turbo, more good advice from this sharp group of photographers. Apparently, I need to change my current thought on F stops. I keep wanting to have the lens wide open when there is not much light. I was using the timer to release the shutter. I will never use that tripod again!By the way, I'm in Raleigh, also.
Cawanua

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Mar 28, 2012 09:02:12   #
nikon_jon Loc: Northeast Arkansas
 
cawanua wrote:
I used a tripod and the shudder release timer so that I would not have to touch the camera. I isn't quite as clear as I think it should be with all that effort. I'm using auto focus. Have to because eyes are not good enough for manual. Any diagnosis? Any suggestions?
Thanks, Cawanua


If you were using an image stabilization lens, it needs to be turned off when you are using it on a tripod.

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Mar 28, 2012 09:05:07   #
cawanua
 
nikon_jon wrote:
cawanua wrote:
I used a tripod and the shudder release timer so that I would not have to touch the camera. I isn't quite as clear as I think it should be with all that effort. I'm using auto focus. Have to because eyes are not good enough for manual. Any diagnosis? Any suggestions?
Thanks, Cawanua


If you were using an image stabilization lens, it needs to be turned off when you are using it on a tripod.


Thanks. If I can ever afford one, I'll remember to do that. Thank you for adding your advice. I'm learning so much through this site and its members.
Cawanua

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Mar 28, 2012 09:08:04   #
cawanua
 
jjestar wrote:
cawanua wrote:
rpavich wrote:
cawanua wrote:


With help from others, I'm leaning toward the conditions rather than a focusing error. What is your take on this?


If this is the same shot from your other thread you might want to change your settings; you took this at 1/8 second...that's INCREDIBLY slow to hand hold.

Was it hand held?

If it was, that may have had something to do with it but the other thing that makes shots look soft is underexposing them....it makes noise and softness....

Exposure Time (1 / Shutter Speed) = 1/8 second
Lens F-Number / F-Stop = 95/10 ===> ƒ/9.5
ISO Speed Ratings = 400
quote=cawanua br br With help from others, I'm ... (show quote)


If it was, that may have had something to do with it but the other thing that makes shots look soft is underexposing them....it makes noise and softness....

I used a tripod (not a good one) and set the shudder on the timed release. I was also using aperture priority. This is getting interesting. I may have questions?
quote=rpavich quote=cawanua br br With help fr... (show quote)


The camera has a "shutter" not a shudder, as you did when you saw the outcome of your photo. Mist did not help but choosing a strong vertical or horizontal line for focusing in these conditions will help.
quote=cawanua quote=rpavich quote=cawanua br ... (show quote)


You are quite right, I did shudder when I saw it was out of focus :oops: Thanks for the correcion.

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Mar 28, 2012 09:09:57   #
cawanua
 
rayford2 wrote:
I read on this forum that leaving Image Stabilization "on" may cause the I.S. motor to "hunt", causing jitter if the camera is mounted on a tripod.
...just a thought.


I wish I could afford the stabilization function. If I ever get one, I'll remember your advice.

Thanks for your input.
Cawanua

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Mar 28, 2012 09:28:57   #
ticTOC Loc: IL
 
rayford2 wrote:
I read on this forum that leaving Image Stabilization "on" may cause the I.S. motor to "hunt", causing jitter if the camera is mounted on a tripod.
...just a thought.


In addition to rayford2's suggestion, I'd like to add that the slight vibration that I see in the shot could also be transfered through the ground. I've noticed this in some of my pictures and I've been able to verify, in my case, that the truck/traffic ground vibration, behind the camera's placement has added a slight blurring.

I thought your posted pictures were very good, the slight mist softend the evening shot nicely(for me)!

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Mar 28, 2012 09:30:28   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
cawanua wrote:
Turbo wrote:
A really sturdy tripod ( and a remote trigger) will make a huge difference in picture clarity.

Also, make sure your DOF is adequate. A building as wide and deep as that one requires at least F8 to be all in focus.

I would pick F 11 and ISO 100 and let the camera pick the shutter speed.

Try bracketing too and see how it changes the "mood"


Hello Turbo, more good advice from this sharp group of photographers. Apparently, I need to change my current thought on F stops. I keep wanting to have the lens wide open when there is not much light. I was using the timer to release the shutter. I will never use that tripod again!By the way, I'm in Raleigh, also.
Cawanua
quote=Turbo A really sturdy tripod ( and a remote... (show quote)


When there isn't much light AND YOU ARE HAND HOLDING' you are correct..but when using a tripod...you have more flexibility....you can now think about depth of field and other considerations.

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Mar 28, 2012 09:31:11   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
ticTOC wrote:
rayford2 wrote:
I read on this forum that leaving Image Stabilization "on" may cause the I.S. motor to "hunt", causing jitter if the camera is mounted on a tripod.
...just a thought.


In addition to rayford2's suggestion, I'd like to add that the slight vibration that I see in the shot could also be transfered through the ground. I've noticed this in some of my pictures and I've been able to verify in my case that the truck/traffic, ground vibration, behind the camera's placement has added a slight blurring.

I thought your posted pictures were very good, the slight mist softend the evening shot nicely(for me)!
quote=rayford2 I read on this forum that leaving ... (show quote)



This effect can be lessened by hanging a weight from the center post of the tripod...

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Mar 28, 2012 09:41:40   #
cawanua
 
ticTOC wrote:
rayford2 wrote:
I read on this forum that leaving Image Stabilization "on" may cause the I.S. motor to "hunt", causing jitter if the camera is mounted on a tripod.
...just a thought.


In addition to rayford2's suggestion, I'd like to add that the slight vibration that I see in the shot could also be transfered through the ground. I've noticed this in some of my pictures and I've been able to verify, in my case, that the truck/traffic ground vibration, behind the camera's placement has added a slight blurring.

I thought your posted pictures were very good, the slight mist softend the evening shot nicely(for me)!
quote=rayford2 I read on this forum that leaving ... (show quote)


Thank you Tictoc. I was standing next to a busy street and I don't doubt your theory. It does make sense. Happy to know you liked the mood of the shot. Cawanua

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