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Jun 10, 2015 18:28:15   #
Jade Warrior Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Pepper wrote:
I understand and respect your right to believe as you choose but when conversing with a Christian and knowing what they believe to be the truth, it seems disingenuous to ask a question you already know the answer to. Just to add a bit of controversy that I'm sure will set me on fire, every Christian I know has had confirmation after saying yes to Christ. These confirmations vary with individuals but none the less once you've received confirmation it's next to impossible to deny it and that's one reason it's so very difficult to change a Christian's attitude and it also the reason it's so difficult to offer the experience to anyone else as proof, it's a personal thing that has to happen to the individual. I'd also add that once you've made this commitment and received confirmation the Bible takes on an entirely different look. It's no longer just a book of stories and history the Spirit that you receive with your conversion enables you to grasp meaning and understanding where none existed before. I know this is nonsense to the non believer especially the highly educated because their education has become their pride and joy. One seeks God from the prospective of a child and in submission. Most approach God demanding He do this or that or testing Him by telling Him if He were God He'd do this or that, these tactics simply bring failure.
I understand and respect your right to believe as ... (show quote)

Pepper, your response is reasonable and honest, and I don't have an argument with you re what you choose to believe.
I do have an argument with someone who makes a veiled threat to me of eternal damnation if I don't agree with him/her.
I think that the ultimate/absolute truth is way beyond our ability to comprehend.

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Jun 10, 2015 19:06:51   #
LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley
 
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Jun 10, 2015 19:14:03   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
Jade Warrior wrote:
Pepper, your response is reasonable and honest, and I don't have an argument with you re what you choose to believe.
I do have an argument with someone who makes a veiled threat to me of eternal damnation if I don't agree with him/her.
I think that the ultimate/absolute truth is way beyond our ability to comprehend.

I totally understand as nobody likes to be threatened although I do take exception when someone refers to the Biblical description of hell as a scare tactic. That's just nonsense if one truly believes there is no God why would a scare tactic have any impact. If you were to tell me their was a boogie man under my bed I'd simply smile and move on, I wouldn't even take offense. I'd probably wonder about your stability but I certainly would complain that "scare tactics" were being used even if that was the motivation.

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Jun 10, 2015 19:17:28   #
LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley
 
Jade Warrior wrote:
Pepper, your response is reasonable and honest, and I don't have an argument with you re what you choose to believe.
I do have an argument with someone who makes a veiled threat to me of eternal damnation if I don't agree with him/her.
I think that the ultimate/absolute truth is way beyond our ability to comprehend.


Are you referring to my post?

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Jun 10, 2015 19:55:24   #
James Shaw
 
slocumeddie wrote:
Let us get back to the title of this thread....."There Is A God (How The World’s Most Notorious Atheist Lost His Mind".....

(edited to be more accurate)


OK, sounds good. Here I go: A mind that is "lost" or "changed" has nothing to do with whether there is or is not a God. And that stands whether the "lost" or "changed" mind belongs to an atheist, Methodist, Democrat, Republican, Christian, Catholic, Boy Scout or whatever.

Rac is a nut and just out for attention. Unfortunately, Rac has no significant numbers of followers/believers. His attempts to distort what is in the rational minds of others using superstition will never fly.

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Jun 10, 2015 20:55:24   #
SBW
 
James Shaw wrote:
OK, sounds good. Here I go: A mind that is "lost" or "changed" has nothing to do with whether there is or is not a God. And that stands whether the "lost" or "changed" mind belongs to an atheist, Methodist, Democrat, Republican, Christian, Catholic, Boy Scout or whatever.

Rac is a nut and just out for attention. Unfortunately, Rac has no significant numbers of followers/believers. His attempts to distort what is in the rational minds of others using superstition will never fly.
OK, sounds good. Here I go: A mind that is "... (show quote)


Yep, that is right on the subject.

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Jun 11, 2015 01:24:26   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
slocumeddie wrote:
Let us get back to the title of this thread....."There Is A God (How The World’s Most Notorious Atheist Lost His Mind".....

(edited to be more accurate)


It would be Better to lose your mind than to lose your soul. :)

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Jun 11, 2015 08:30:25   #
LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley
 
Racmanaz wrote:
It would be Better to lose your mind than to lose your soul. :)


True that! :thumbup:

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Jun 11, 2015 10:17:21   #
James Shaw
 
Quote:
slocumeddie wrote:
Let us get back to the title of this thread....."There Is A God (How The World’s Most Notorious Atheist Lost His Mind".....

(edited to be more accurate)
Racmanaz wrote:
It would be Better to lose your mind than to lose your soul. :)

Just how would you know?

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Jun 11, 2015 14:30:38   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
NeilL wrote:
Prove there is no God.


So..........prove there is one.

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Jun 11, 2015 18:02:09   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
silver wrote:
So..........prove there is one.


I can see why that would be a concern for you silver.

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Jun 11, 2015 21:57:30   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Pepper wrote:
I can see why that would be a concern for you silver.


You have nothing to stand on. You actually think that rac is correct. Looney tunes.

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