The Fine Tuning of the Universe
Jun 1, 2015 02:26:49 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
You decide which option is the best logical and more plausible explanation as to the existence of the universe and all life within it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpIiIaC4kRA&spfreload=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpIiIaC4kRA&spfreload=1
Jun 1, 2015 13:20:54 #
Racmanaz wrote:
You decide which option is the best logical and more plausible explanation as to the existence of the universe and all life within it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpIiIaC4kRA&spfreload=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpIiIaC4kRA&spfreload=1
OMG......I NEVER thought it could happen.
I read this and now I believe and I'm going to be SAVED.
Jun 1, 2015 13:23:48 #
Racmanaz wrote:
You decide which option is the best logical and more plausible explanation as to the existence of the universe and all life within it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpIiIaC4kRA&spfreload=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpIiIaC4kRA&spfreload=1
nice graphics... BTW.... these scientists that believe the universe could not exist if certain constants were changed... they ALL believe in evolution.
Jun 1, 2015 14:07:25 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
uote=green]nice graphics... BTW.... these scientists that believe the universe could not exist if certain constants were changed... they ALL believe in evolution.[/quote]
Define "these scientists", which scientist are you referring to?
Define "these scientists", which scientist are you referring to?
Jun 1, 2015 14:23:59 #
Racmanaz wrote:
uote=green]nice graphics... BTW.... these scientists that believe the universe could not exist if certain constants were changed... they ALL believe in evolution.
Define "these scientists", which scientist are you referring to?[/quote]
the same scientists mentioned at 21 seconds in that have come to the shocking realization that each of these numbers has been carefully dialed.
Jun 1, 2015 14:44:12 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
green wrote:
the same scientists mentioned at 21 seconds in that have come to the shocking realization that each of these numbers has been carefully dialed.
I don't understand your point whether they believe in evolution is irrelevant because this is not about evolution this is about the fine tuning of the universe for life on Earth. that being said it was the point of this video to use people who are not creationist or intelligent design proponents, just makes a stronger case for intelligent design and it weakens the case for atheist to refute intelligent design of the universe and everything in it. hey but nice try in your attempt to divert from the issue. :)
Jun 1, 2015 15:30:06 #
Rac
That's science. Something a simple as a spinning top requires constants. Speed, circular motion and equally distributed weight. Change any of those and the top falls down.
No mystery. No man in the sky. Just centrifugal force and gyroscopic action.
It's called science.
That's science. Something a simple as a spinning top requires constants. Speed, circular motion and equally distributed weight. Change any of those and the top falls down.
No mystery. No man in the sky. Just centrifugal force and gyroscopic action.
It's called science.
Jun 1, 2015 16:22:07 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
Frank T wrote:
Rac
That's science. Something a simple as a spinning top requires constants. Speed, circular motion and equally distributed weight. Change any of those and the top falls down.
No mystery. No man in the sky. Just centrifugal force and gyroscopic action.
It's called science.
That's science. Something a simple as a spinning top requires constants. Speed, circular motion and equally distributed weight. Change any of those and the top falls down.
No mystery. No man in the sky. Just centrifugal force and gyroscopic action.
It's called science.
the subject is not about the results of the fine-tuning the subject is where did the fine-tuning come from it came from an intelligent agent not by chance it's impossible
Jun 1, 2015 16:40:43 #
Racmanaz wrote:
the subject is not about the results of the fine-tuning the subject is where did the fine-tuning come from it came from an intelligent agent not by chance it's impossible
It's more likely that this universe was one big scientific accident than it was made piece by piece by some supernatural being that lives in the sky.
You can have faith if you want, but don't discount science because you think the two can't co-exist.
Jun 1, 2015 17:04:53 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
Frank T wrote:
It's more likely that this universe was one big scientific accident than it was made piece by piece by some supernatural being that lives in the sky.
You can have faith if you want, but don't discount science because you think the two can't co-exist.
You can have faith if you want, but don't discount science because you think the two can't co-exist.
Nope you are wrong, the probability of the universe being created by an Intelligent Agent is overwhelmingly more probably than an accident. Nothing of design in this world has ever been created by an accident, all design has been created by an Intelligent mind, cars, electronics, computers, tools, space craft, aircraft...ect. You are arguing against scientist even some atheist scientists on this issue.
Jun 1, 2015 17:23:25 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
chrisscholbe wrote:
OMG......I NEVER thought it could happen.
I read this and now I believe and I'm going to be SAVED.
I read this and now I believe and I'm going to be SAVED.
eye roll.
Jun 1, 2015 17:53:32 #
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green wrote:
the same scientists mentioned at 21 seconds in that have come to the shocking realization that each of these numbers has been carefully dialed.
the same scientists mentioned at 21 seconds in that have come to the shocking realization that each of these numbers has been carefully dialed.
Racmanaz wrote:
I don't understand your point whether they believe... (show quote)
What case for Intelligent Design? There is no case for for Intelligent Design/superstition. You either believe or you do not. Rac, the fool, strikes out again.
Jun 1, 2015 21:52:22 #
The video is correct only in that the precise values of the universal constants are critical for life as we know it. If the values were different, then some other form of life could be pondering how come the force of gravity was just enough to produce 11 and one half arms and a chemistry based on the chemistry of kryptonite. Or possibly no life. But given the constants of this universe, the probability that life would develop as we see it is simply 1, since..here we are.
Jun 1, 2015 21:58:34 #
Racmanaz wrote:
the subject is not about the results of the fine-tuning the subject is where did the fine-tuning come from it came from an intelligent agent not by chance it's impossible
maybe the universe itself is the intelligence... the idea of a creator and a created is a product of our dualistic brains and minds... the difference between creator and created may just be an artifact of the human experience.
maybe it's just creation expressing itself..for the fun of it.
Jun 1, 2015 21:58:34 #
Racmanaz wrote:
the subject is not about the results of the fine-tuning the subject is where did the fine-tuning come from it came from an intelligent agent not by chance it's impossible
maybe the universe itself is the intelligence... the idea of a creator and a created is a product of our dualistic brains and minds... the difference between creator and created may just be an artifact of the human experience.
maybe it's just creation expressing itself..for the fun of it.
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