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Jun 3, 2015 17:06:15   #
BebuLamar
 
GrandmaG wrote:
There's your problem: "made in China"


Made in China isn't the problem. My original Nikon battery is made in China. As much as I don't like Chinese made products I must say the quality is good now.

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Jun 3, 2015 17:16:57   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
Peterff wrote:
Thanks. I use a battery grip - the genuine Canon one, which has a cartridge for AA batteries as well as the dedicated batteries, and I have a couple of smart chargers for the standard battery sizes.

This leaves the OP with a bit of a dilemma I guess. How can he tell that his higher rated Canon type batteries are fully charged or not, and if not is it the battery or the charger that is at fault?

I have had no problems with the Canon charger and a higher capacity third party battery, but I've certainly not had any problems with the Canon batteries. They are not the cheapest, but they work extremely reliably. That said there has been much discussion about certain off brand batteries that seem to be perfectly good but substantially cheaper.

Do you think this thread is fully charged and has reached capacity yet? :)
Thanks. I use a battery grip - the genuine Canon ... (show quote)


The off brand camera batteries you speak of are designed to fit the battery enclosure of the original battery. There may be significantly less quality control in their manufacture and sometimes even flaky designs and assembly techniques used in their manufacture.
The SANYO system for NIMH batteries has now proven it's worth and longevity but as always...CHEAP COPIES ARE NOT ALWAYS WHAT THEY'RE CRACKED uP TO BE. And, just because it says it has higher mAh ratings, doesn't mean it really does.

Junk copies of items has it's hot bed of cheats in all of South-East Asia and China is one country where there's no government regulation regarding labeling. A company can be shut down in one location due to poor products and start up the next day a few miles away and keep operating and exporting to retailers and cheats who sell junk over the internet.

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Jun 3, 2015 20:00:35   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
artc4746 wrote:
Some rechargable batteries need to be completely discharged before you can charge them up to full capacity. If you have a store that specializes in batteries check with them.


DAMN...just read the WIKIPEDIA section on NIMH batteries. I gave the link so it only takes a click of the mouse button.
GEEZ. You can even use a GOOGLE SEARCH on the subject if you're not satisfied with WIKIPEDIA.

And a lot people will tell you all kinds of BULLSHIT and not many people actually know the whys and wherefores of different battery types. The guy in the battery store is only a clerk just like the people that were in RADIOSHACK.

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Jun 3, 2015 21:27:44   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
Peterff wrote:
Do you have something specific to say regarding the nature of the problem that is of any value or are you just being prejudiced?


Lol...not prejudiced at all. Just stating a fact! :lol:

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Jun 3, 2015 21:46:07   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Made in China isn't the problem. My original Nikon battery is made in China. As much as I don't like Chinese made products I must say the quality is good now.


My Nikon battery is made in Japan. I really try to avoid buying ANYTHING that is made in China...but their products are EVERYWHERE. Seriously, though...I tend to stick with brand names when it comes to my camera gear. I was thinking about getting a battery grip for my D7100, especially to counterbalance the 70-200/2.8; so that's why I am following this thread. The only non-Nikon acessorry I own is a Yongnuo speedlight which is (horror of horrors) made in China!! :lol: :oops: :lol:

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Jun 3, 2015 21:52:02   #
Bushymonster Loc: Oklahoma City. OK.
 
Calm down. Everyone has the right to express their opinion. I wished I knew more about them and I will read up on the subject. My grip came with two battery packs. One for the batteries that came with the camera, two of them or the other you can use the rechargeable triple AAA batteries. So far I use the one that has two Cannon batteries. I am very satisfied so far and the grip works great, or it works great for me, an armature photographer. I still appreciate all sides of the answers given. Thats only me. Thanks guys and gals. I am not the sharpest tool in the shed but I make due.
-Bushy

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Jun 3, 2015 21:55:29   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
GrandmaG wrote:
My Nikon battery is made in Japan. I really try to avoid buying ANYTHING that is made in China...but their products are EVERYWHERE. Seriously, though...I tend to stick with brand names when it comes to my camera gear. I was thinking about getting a battery grip for my D7100, especially to counterbalance the 70-200/2.8; so that's why I am following this thread. The only non-Nikon acessorry I own is a Yongnuo speedlight which is (horror of horrors) made in China!! :lol: :oops: :lol:


Actually, I think the productions line for D7100, D800, D810 and many others from Nikon has been moved to Thailand. That was the problem with the release of certain new models of Nikons after they experienced terrible floods.

Lots of stuff is made in CHINA that has excellent quality, but it's the KNOCKOFFS that give CHINA the bad name.

The only thing I see being "MADE IN THE USA" now is DEBT and TESLA and racial troubles. Oh yea, and a lot of construction of privatized Prisons. Even the parts for American autos are now made in Mexico or South East Asia and only partially assembled there in the USA. And I'll bet that the proposed wall to hold out Mexicans from coming into Texas and New Mexico and Arizona will be prefabed in Mexico too. LOL.

The old label saying "MADE IN USA" has little real meaning now since that phrase has been convoluted and distorted.

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Jun 5, 2015 00:55:26   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
singleviking wrote:
Actually, I think the productions line for D7100, D800, D810 and many others from Nikon has been moved to Thailand. That was the problem with the release of certain new models of Nikons after they experienced terrible floods.

Lots of stuff is made in CHINA that has excellent quality, but it's the KNOCKOFFS that give CHINA the bad name.

The only thing I see being "MADE IN THE USA" now is DEBT and TESLA and racial troubles. Oh yea, and a lot of construction of privatized Prisons. Even the parts for American autos are now made in Mexico or South East Asia and only partially assembled there in the USA. And I'll bet that the proposed wall to hold out Mexicans from coming into Texas and New Mexico and Arizona will be prefabed in Mexico too. LOL.

The old label saying "MADE IN USA" has little real meaning now since that phrase has been convoluted and distorted.
Actually, I think the productions line for D7100, ... (show quote)


Absolutely!!! My Honda was made in Ohio and my Dodge was made in Canada! I stopped buying clothes at my favorite store because not one single thing was made in the USA! But like you said, we don't get the truth anymore.

But to get back to the OP's topic. Wasn't the original question about battery grips? I was considering one myself. There is a $160 difference in price between the Nikon brand & Vello brand. I gathered from the conversation & my research that the brand name is best. But how did we get talking about batteries & battery chargers? Doesn't the grip use the same battery as the camera? I know you can use AA batteries as another choice. I use Eneloop.

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Jun 5, 2015 01:16:02   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
GrandmaG wrote:
Absolutely!!! My Honda was made in Ohio and my Dodge was made in Canada! I stopped buying clothes at my favorite store because not one single thing was made in the USA! But like you said, we don't get the truth anymore.

But to get back to the OP's topic. Wasn't the original question about battery grips? I was considering one myself. There is a $160 difference in price between the Nikon brand & Vello brand. I gathered from the conversation & my research that the brand name is best. But how did we get talking about batteries & battery chargers? Doesn't the grip use the same battery as the camera? I know you can use AA batteries as another choice. I use Eneloop.
Absolutely!!! My Honda was made in Ohio and my Dod... (show quote)


The OP's original question was about charging off-brand batteries that came with a grip, not specified whether Canon or off-brand for the grip, but Canon for the charger. Likelihood it is not a Canon grip, they don't ship with batteries from my experience.

As for where things are made, it really is not about location but about quality control. My two Hondas, one made in Canada, one in Japan have been excellent. My Subaru made in Indiana has had problems, essentially a manufacturing flaw that cost me $3000. My stick shift Hondas went north of 150K on the original clutch, the Subaru coughed at 30K. A good car overall, but problems that could only have occurred during manufacturing. They would not cover it, even with the extended warranty coverage. There is good stuff and bad stuff made everywhere.

I have a Canon grip, it cost more, but I felt it was worth it for something I use ALL the time. My one off-brand camera battery continues to do well. I also use eneloop AA / AAA batteries.

We have strayed so far off topic here, and the OP stopped following pages ago. There are pages of threads on off brand camera batteries, Wasabi seems to get good reviews on the Hog and apparently pack a punch for less than half the price of the camera brand batteries.

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Jun 5, 2015 08:52:29   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
Peterff wrote:
The OP's original question was about charging off-brand batteries that came with a grip, not specified whether Canon or off-brand for the grip, but Canon for the charger. Likelihood it is not a Canon grip, they don't ship with batteries from my experience.

As for where things are made, it really is not about location but about quality control. My two Hondas, one made in Canada, one in Japan have been excellent. My Subaru made in Indiana has had problems, essentially a manufacturing flaw that cost me $3000. My stick shift Hondas went north of 150K on the original clutch, the Subaru coughed at 30K. A good car overall, but problems that could only have occurred during manufacturing. They would not cover it, even with the extended warranty coverage. There is good stuff and bad stuff made everywhere.

I have a Canon grip, it cost more, but I felt it was worth it for something I use ALL the time. My one off-brand camera battery continues to do well. I also use eneloop AA / AAA batteries.

We have strayed so far off topic here, and the OP stopped following pages ago. There are pages of threads on off brand camera batteries, Wasabi seems to get good reviews on the Hog and apparently pack a punch for less than half the price of the camera brand batteries.
The OP's original question was about charging off-... (show quote)


I guess the OP got his answer then. Lol

My first Honda was totaled because a kid ran the red light. I tried to buy an "American-made" car, but bought another Honda. It was just so much better. I kept it until it had almost 100,000 miles on it & it was still going strong...not one bit of trouble with either one. I was going to get another Honda Accord but they downsized it too much to suit me. Now I drive a beautiful red Charger with a Hemi engine. Good deal with my husband's employee discount!

I HATE spending money on cars because I'd rather buy camera equipment.

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