sRGB or Adobe
May 30, 2015 15:09:37 #
rickgc
Loc: Northeast PA
Do you take photos in sRGB or Adobe color? What is the advantage of one over the other?
May 30, 2015 15:52:46 #
rickgc wrote:
Do you take photos in sRGB or Adobe color? What is the advantage of one over the other?
For whats it worth - I shoot in raw, so the camera setting for color space does not matter, then I use Prophoto in Lightroom/Photoshop to edit.
Fot output to the web or email I use sRGB color space and for prints I use either sRGB or the print house icc file if they have one.
May 30, 2015 16:01:44 #
May 31, 2015 09:21:34 #
rickgc wrote:
Do you take photos in sRGB or Adobe color? What is the advantage of one over the other?
In camera color space only applies to jpeg or tiff files generated in the camera. If your camera can record 16 bit uncompressed tiff files use Adobe RGB. If jpeg is the only option, then sRGB makes the most sense.
If you shoot raw, as Don has noted, the color space is not assigned until you do it when you export an image out of the raw converter. Use the largest, ProPhoto, for your 16 bit working file, and downsize the color space to sRGB when exporting a jpeg image for printing or online posting.
May 31, 2015 09:25:27 #
Gene51 wrote:
In camera color space only applies to jpeg or tiff... (show quote)
Gene51...why use sRGB for printing...why not RGB....????
May 31, 2015 10:02:13 #
nikonwaddy wrote:
Gene51...why use sRGB for printing...why not RGB....????
Follow up question to nikonwaddy's; for prints why not convert to cmyk?
May 31, 2015 10:19:23 #
I shoot only raw. I process and print in ProPhoto (I do my own printing). For web I use sRGB because that is what (I'm told) most browsers recognize.
May 31, 2015 10:21:57 #
nikonwaddy wrote:
Gene51...why use sRGB for printing...why not RGB....????
Most labs are set up for sRGB, and would require disrupting the workflow for any other color space. It is the lowest common denominator. Some custom labs may accept Adobe RGB, but most will convert down to sRGB jpeg for printing anyway. The volume houses do that.
If you have them printed on fine art rag paper, you have more options, but this will come at a price.
May 31, 2015 10:22:44 #
Rich1939 wrote:
Follow up question to nikonwaddy's; for prints why not convert to cmyk?
CMYK is a small an narrow color space for the print industry, not for photo industry.
May 31, 2015 11:23:30 #
Gene51 wrote:
Most labs are set up for sRGB, and would require disrupting the workflow for any other color space. It is the lowest common denominator. Some custom labs may accept Adobe RGB, but most will convert down to sRGB jpeg for printing anyway. The volume houses do that.
If you have them printed on fine art rag paper, you have more options, but this will come at a price.
If you have them printed on fine art rag paper, you have more options, but this will come at a price.
Sorry Gene51, I didn't add enough info to my question...I shoot RAW, edit in Photoshop (cc), print to a Canon Pro-1 home inkjet printer and save files to PSD....I do understand the web and print labs usually only takes JPEG and sRGB..but under my conditions are you saying I should also home print in sRGB??
Thx for any advice and info...
May 31, 2015 11:36:22 #
May 31, 2015 15:56:31 #
nikonwaddy wrote:
Sorry Gene51, I didn't add enough info to my question...I shoot RAW, edit in Photoshop (cc), print to a Canon Pro-1 home inkjet printer and save files to PSD....I do understand the web and print labs usually only takes JPEG and sRGB..but under my conditions are you saying I should also home print in sRGB??
Thx for any advice and info...
Thx for any advice and info...
This printer almost covers Adobe RGB color space, maybe 95%-98%, and can print 16 bit TIFF files with the XPS Driver. It's easy enough to make a 16 bit TIFF from a PSD file, so you should be fine. Of course it helps to have a wide gamut display (true 8 bit without FRS, or higher) and card (NVidia makes excellent ones - the Quadro line) so you minimize any gamut mismatch. The printer can print colors that are outside the display gamut, so you will have to do a little testing with regards to rendering intent. All of this is important only if you print images that have wide color gamut - flowers, birds insects with their often bright iridescent coloring - can be challenging to view, edit and print.
May 31, 2015 21:48:20 #
Rich1939 wrote:
Follow up question to nikonwaddy's; for prints why not convert to cmyk?
Graphic arts uses CMYK. All photo print processes use some flavor of RGB. That is a different concept from an ICC profile.
ALMOST all photo labs use sRGB as default. If you print your own, direct from Photoshop or Lightroom, you can let the print driver convert from your working space.
Many printers (graphic arts --- not photo labs) want JPEGs in Adobe RGB (1998). Many of them would *prefer* to edit your raw files themselves.
ALL Internet images should be in sRGB.
Jun 1, 2015 00:12:23 #
Rich1939 wrote:
Follow up question to nikonwaddy's; for prints why not convert to cmyk?
That is only needed for color separation process in printing!
Jun 1, 2015 07:36:58 #
speters wrote:
That is only needed for color separation process in printing!
And some (graphic arts) printers use raster image processors that take in sRGB or Adobe RGB files, and separate them "on the fly", applying a profile for the EXACT paper stock and inks in use! Essentially, that's what an inkjet printer does in the photo lab world.
Making CMYK separations in Photoshop is "so 1990's."
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