Christians say they will disobey..........
Apr 28, 2015 20:15:39 #
We will not obey: Christian leaders threaten civil disobedience if Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/04/28/will-not-obey-christian-leaders-threaten-civil-disobedience-if-supreme-court/
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/04/28/will-not-obey-christian-leaders-threaten-civil-disobedience-if-supreme-court/
Apr 28, 2015 20:32:54 #
Apr 29, 2015 08:02:33 #
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Will this threaten anybody? lol
If the Supreme Court defends the present definition of marriage that being between one man and one woman, will that change your mind? Will you agree with and live by the Courts decision?
It is the same as the abortion issue. Just because the court said that a woman has the right to abort her unborn baby, it does not make it morally right.
Apr 29, 2015 09:10:06 #
Bangee5 wrote:
If the Supreme Court defends the present definition of marriage that being between one man and one woman, will that change your mind? Will you agree with and live by the Courts decision?
It is the same as the abortion issue. Just because the court said that a woman has the right to abort her unborn baby, it does not make it morally right.
It is the same as the abortion issue. Just because the court said that a woman has the right to abort her unborn baby, it does not make it morally right.
You said it Bangee! :thumbup:
Apr 29, 2015 09:28:15 #
Bangee5 wrote:
If the Supreme Court defends the present definition of marriage that being between one man and one woman, will that change your mind? Will you agree with and live by the Courts decision?
It is the same as the abortion issue. Just because the court said that a woman has the right to abort her unborn baby, it does not make it morally right.
It is the same as the abortion issue. Just because the court said that a woman has the right to abort her unborn baby, it does not make it morally right.
Exactly! The left does cherish their ability to terminate a living fetus in the womb, as well as a couple of fat 50 year old men flopping around on a king sized bed performing oral sex on each other with their wedding bands clearly visible!
Apr 29, 2015 10:28:23 #
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Don't think it will threaten very many, even if they are against the court doing so. Some will feel that the country is going to hell, but what is new, many have thought that for quite some time now.Will this threaten anybody? lol
Maybe we are; maybe we are just moving on? What's the alternative if the court passes such a measure?
"Times, they are a chagin."
Apr 29, 2015 10:31:45 #
bvm
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
James Shaw wrote:
We will not obey: Christian leaders threaten civil disobedience if Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/04/28/will-not-obey-christian-leaders-threaten-civil-disobedience-if-supreme-court/
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/04/28/will-not-obey-christian-leaders-threaten-civil-disobedience-if-supreme-court/
Not all Christians are anarchist democRATs.
Apr 29, 2015 10:44:55 #
Besides making political statement, what impact will this have? How will they "disobey" the law.
The law really isn't about individuals or churches recognizing non-traditional marriages. Its about the state's recognition, and the legal rights and duties conferred by marriage.
I don't see this as an attack on Christianity. It has nothing to do with the Christian definition of marriage. It's about the legal definition. Totally separate issue.
I wish we could call it something other than marriage, but I know that is an emotional response and is not practical.
The law really isn't about individuals or churches recognizing non-traditional marriages. Its about the state's recognition, and the legal rights and duties conferred by marriage.
I don't see this as an attack on Christianity. It has nothing to do with the Christian definition of marriage. It's about the legal definition. Totally separate issue.
I wish we could call it something other than marriage, but I know that is an emotional response and is not practical.
Apr 29, 2015 10:50:58 #
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James Shaw wrote:
We will not obey: Christian leaders threaten civil disobedience if Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/04/28/will-not-obey-christian-leaders-threaten-civil-...
We will not obey: Christian leaders threaten civil disobedience if Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/04/28/will-not-obey-christian-leaders-threaten-civil-...
bvm wrote:
Not all Christians are anarchist democRATs.
Interesting what you say. What are "all Christians?" Is Christianity a political party?
Apr 29, 2015 11:02:12 #
Bangee5 wrote:
If the Supreme Court defends the present definition of marriage that being between one man and one woman, will that change your mind? Will you agree with and live by the Courts decision?
It is the same as the abortion issue. Just because the court said that a woman has the right to abort her unborn baby, it does not make it morally right.
It is the same as the abortion issue. Just because the court said that a woman has the right to abort her unborn baby, it does not make it morally right.
Don't think the Supreme Court sees this as a moral issue, as mwalsh implied in his response. Courts should not (cannot by law) decide moral issues?
Apr 29, 2015 11:03:14 #
James Shaw wrote:
We will not obey: Christian leaders threaten civil disobedience if Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/04/28/will-not-obey-christian-leaders-threaten-civil-disobedience-if-supreme-court/
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/04/28/will-not-obey-christian-leaders-threaten-civil-disobedience-if-supreme-court/
This is just like segregation in the 1960s.
Apr 29, 2015 11:38:30 #
Bangee5 wrote:
If the Supreme Court defends the present definition of marriage that being between one man and one woman, will that change your mind? Will you agree with and live by the Courts decision?
It is the same as the abortion issue. Just because the court said that a woman has the right to abort her unborn baby, it does not make it morally right.
It is the same as the abortion issue. Just because the court said that a woman has the right to abort her unborn baby, it does not make it morally right.
So what other laws should be disobeyed because you disagree and feel they aren't "morally right?" This is precisely why people don't want religion in government. Why should the rest of us be held to your faith when we don't believe in it???
Apr 29, 2015 11:41:45 #
user47602
Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
hello... I'm morally opposed to war and murder... to people using my money to kill other people far away...
Apr 29, 2015 11:44:23 #
dljen wrote:
So what other laws should be disobeyed because you disagree and feel they aren't "morally right?" This is precisely why people don't want religion in government. Why should the rest of us be held to your faith when we don't believe in it???
You might want to read some Aquinas, especially where he teaches about the necessity of disobeying immoral laws. It's not really a new concept. MLK used it to advance his cause.
Why should I be held to your moral standards when I don't believe in them? Perhaps the idea of living in a republic has something to do with it.
Apr 29, 2015 11:46:13 #
Banshee,
There have been several Presidential elections with results, I was unhappy to live with in my life time. But I lived with them. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose. I do not respond with violence, like the people that kill abortion doctors. I am happily married to my wife of 34 years. I am not threatened with gays or lesbians getting married. I believe the heart wants what it wants. Who am I to deny their happiness?
Morals are not for laws to decide, religions are concerned with morals. We have a separation of church and state in this country. The Courts decide what is right or wrong with the laws. Can you live with that?
There have been several Presidential elections with results, I was unhappy to live with in my life time. But I lived with them. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose. I do not respond with violence, like the people that kill abortion doctors. I am happily married to my wife of 34 years. I am not threatened with gays or lesbians getting married. I believe the heart wants what it wants. Who am I to deny their happiness?
Morals are not for laws to decide, religions are concerned with morals. We have a separation of church and state in this country. The Courts decide what is right or wrong with the laws. Can you live with that?
Bangee5 wrote:
If the Supreme Court defends the present definition of marriage that being between one man and one woman, will that change your mind? Will you agree with and live by the Courts decision?
It is the same as the abortion issue. Just because the court said that a woman has the right to abort her unborn baby, it does not make it morally right.
It is the same as the abortion issue. Just because the court said that a woman has the right to abort her unborn baby, it does not make it morally right.
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