Where is a Canon mirrorless camera for US customers
Available in Japan but not in the US !!
Ive been waiting for one that I can use my L series lenses on.
Come on Canon...get with the program
The EOS M is still around in some places. But, it bombed in the USA market. It seemed to sell pretty well for Canonites that wanted a backup body, but not until the price was deeply discounted.
Canon came out with a mirrorless using a 1" sensor last week. The XC10 is expensive and features seem restricted compared to competitive offerings from Sony and Panasonic.
Canon seems to be really good at supplying the traditional DSLR market, but not so good at innovation in lesser markets like consumer mirrorless, video or hybrid.
ronf78155 wrote:
Where is a Canon mirrorless camera for US customers
Available in Japan but not in the US !!
Ive been waiting for one that I can use my L series lenses on.
Come on Canon...get with the program
If there was a more profitable market, I'm sure they would be more active but I doubt they will listen to the minority that believe they are behind.
Just buy a Sony and move on ;)
Canon seems to be really good at supplying the traditional DSLR market, but not so good at innovation in lesser markets like consumer mirrorless, video or hybrid.[/quote]
You could substitute Nikon for Canon in the above sentence and it will still be accurate.
Very often when technologies change the major companies that had large market share in the old technology fade--eg Kodak, RCA & Sony (televisions), GE (lightbulbs).
I have a ton of Nikon DSLR equipment and also a Nikon 1 AW1 mirrorless that I use only in water. If I were to buy a mirrorless it would be the Sony A6000 or A7. However, the autofocus systems on mirrorless are not quite up to DSLR performance yet for things like sports (close, but no cigar). But the simpler design of mirrorless is sure to win out in the long term.
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ronf78155 wrote:
Where is a Canon mirrorless camera for US customers
Available in Japan but not in the US !!
Ive been waiting for one that I can use my L series lenses on.
Come on Canon...get with the program
Canon...Nikon...can you say Kodak.
In my opinion, Sony current has the mirrorless market cornered because of variety of bodies (APS-C and full frame) and available lenses, although their FF lenses are small in number and expensive. You can probably buy a good APS-C mirrorless Sony body with two lenses for less than the price of someone else's mirrorless body. Also, the a58, although not truly mirrorless, acts like one and takes the same lenses as the Sony APS-C mirrorless cameras and was currently available at a very reasonable price last time I looked.
ralphc4176 wrote:
In my opinion, Sony current has the mirrorless market cornered because of variety of bodies (APS-C and full frame) and available lenses, although their FF lenses are small in number and expensive. You can probably buy a good APS-C mirrorless Sony body with two lenses for less than the price of someone else's mirrorless body. Also, the a58, although not truly mirrorless, acts like one and takes the same lenses as the Sony APS-C mirrorless cameras and was currently available at a very reasonable price last time I looked.
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Check out Sony NEX 7 for $498 at BH. Came with 16-55 lens. Got 55-210 for $205. Two dials up top can be set,for example, f-stop and speed. Can see results in OLED viewfinder.
BillKe wrote:
Canon seems to be really good at supplying the traditional DSLR market, but not so good at innovation in lesser markets like consumer mirrorless, video or hybrid.
You could substitute Nikon for Canon in the above sentence and it will still be accurate.
Very often when technologies change the major companies that had large market share in the old technology fade--eg Kodak, RCA & Sony (televisions), GE (lightbulbs).
I have a ton of Nikon DSLR equipment and also a Nikon 1 AW1 mirrorless that I use only in water. If I were to buy a mirrorless it would be the Sony A6000 or A7. However, the autofocus systems on mirrorless are not quite up to DSLR performance yet for things like sports (close, but no cigar). But the simpler design of mirrorless is sure to win out in the long term.[/quote]
In general you are correct regarding AF and mirrorless cameras ,but for sports the a6000 is lightning fast and is one exception. There may be others, but the 6000 is / was rated the fastest AF on the market at one time. Not sure if it is still valid.
ronf78155 wrote:
Where is a Canon mirrorless camera for US customers
Available in Japan but not in the US !!
Ive been waiting for one that I can use my L series lenses on.
Come on Canon...get with the program
The interchangeable lens point and shoot camera market is a bit flat here, as well.
Canon and Nikon are so entrenched in dSLRs, with millions and millions of existing lenses, that mirror-less makes little sense for them.
The Catch-22 of mirrorless is that it works best when you design a COMPLETELY NEW system from the ground up, engineered to take advantage of the minimum lens flange to sensor dimension required.
THAT means that older lenses are incompatible, or overly large for the body, as in EOS-M with EF lens adapter.
If you want great mirrorless cameras, look at Panasonic and Olympus Micro Four Thirds, then Fujifilm's X-series, and Sony's A7. All are excellent in their own right, and for different reasons, in different situations.
It may take a while, but I think eventually, mirrorless designs will prevail over dSLRs. NO ONE in his or her right mind likes that damned mirror blackout at the point of exposure. But the developers have to speed up EVFs to match the speed of the shutter release, and make their images look better, before sports and nature shooters will get on board.
BTW, with MetaBones SpeedBooster adapters, you can fit your old Canon EF glass on a Micro-Four-Thirds body, and gain an f/stop of light while preserving your investment in glass. (i.e.; your 70-200mm f/4 becomes an f/2.8, 49-140mm optic, with the equivalent angle of view of a 98-280mm full frame zoom)!
If you want a great mirrorless camera..., get an iPhone!! :lol:
Leave the REAL cameras to the BIG BOYS!!! :lol: :lol:
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ronf78155 wrote:
Where is a Canon mirrorless camera for US customers
Available in Japan but not in the US !!
Ive been waiting for one that I can use my L series lenses on.
Come on Canon...get with the program
Sony will make some and slap Canon stickers on them after they merge because Canon didn't keep up.
[quote=burkphoto] NO ONE in his or her right mind likes that damned mirror blackout at the point of exposure.
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Obviously there are differences of opinions here. I've never heard anyone in their right mind complain of it!
[quote=Leitz][quote=burkphoto] NO ONE in his or her right mind likes that damned mirror blackout at the point of exposure.
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Obviously there are differences of opinions here. I've never heard anyone in their right mind complain of it!
Well, I like to see that my subject's eyes are open when I make a portrait! I worked for three huge school portrait companies. The dSLR was considered a highly inferior solution for portrait photography, but a necessary evil to get us off the expensive, addictive drug that we called film.
Lifetouch even builds their own super secret X1 camera to get around it. It is both mirrorless and shutter-less.
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