A favorite selling point on new cameras is how high the ISO number will go. A higher ISO number makes the camera more sensitive to light, which means higher shutter speeds and smaller apertures, right? In the the next breath the "experts" are telling us to use the lowest ISO possible, to reduce "noise". I understand that, ideally, a fine camera should have high ISO settings with a minimum of noise. But why an ISO number in the tens of thousands when most photographs are taken in the hundreds?
Photomacdog wrote:
A favorite selling point on new cameras is how high the ISO number will go. A higher ISO number makes the camera more sensitive to light, which means higher shutter speeds and smaller apertures, right? In the the next breath the "experts" are telling us to use the lowest ISO possible, to reduce "noise". I understand that, ideally, a fine camera should have high ISO settings with a minimum of noise. But why an ISO number in the tens of thousands when most photographs are taken in the hundreds?
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Dog, yes, lower ISO produces less noise.
I guess its better to have high ISO on your camera and not need it, than to need a high ISO and not have it.
You need what you need.
Get faster GLASS, it's a win-win!! :lol:
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A favorite selling point on new cameras is how high the ISO number will go. A higher ISO number makes the camera more sensitive to light, which means higher shutter speeds and smaller apertures, right? In the the next breath the "experts" are telling us to use the lowest ISO possible, to reduce "noise". I understand that, ideally, a fine camera should have high ISO settings with a minimum of noise. But why an ISO number in the tens of thousands when most photographs are taken in the hundreds?
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When I took pictures of my granddaughter playing volleyball game with 70-200 f/2.8 in school gym , I used high ISO to have a shutter speed of 1/250. Flash is not allowed .ISO is in the thousands.
Why not? If one uses it, it is good for them so... Why not?
While my camera can shoot 256000 ISO, I won't go anywhere near it. For me, my upper limit is somewhere around 3200 to 6400. I have the ability to shoot in auto iso (if I so desire) where the ISO has a user defined max setting. For me it is 3200. if that doesn't work, then I manually increase it to 6400 or put on faster glass, or grab a flash (if possible).
That said, I like to shoot the night sky, and noise on my little m4/3 cab become an issue really fast, so I pay close attention to it.
Because sometimes, there is absolutely no other way to get that once in a lifetime shot.
Photomacdog wrote:
A favorite selling point on new cameras is how high the ISO number will go. A higher ISO number makes the camera more sensitive to light, which means higher shutter speeds and smaller apertures, right? In the the next breath the "experts" are telling us to use the lowest ISO possible, to reduce "noise". I understand that, ideally, a fine camera should have high ISO settings with a minimum of noise. But why an ISO number in the tens of thousands when most photographs are taken in the hundreds?
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The answer is pretty simple: low light, especially when you need to stop action or get lots of depth of field. It can enable you to get usable shots you couldn't get any other way.
Being able to use a higher ISO when needed is great, if you can get a correct exposure then the noise is not that noticeable. Even cameras with good ISO ratings can still show lots of noise at low settings if the exposure is under what it should be. I bought a 7D Mk II for the higher ISO needed for BIF's on cloudy days and it was a big improvement over my older T3i's. I had just gotten the Mk II right before Christmas and was using it at our family Christmas gathering without a flash. Everyone else was popping flashes and getting washed out images of the people in front and dark faces on the people in the back and they all were curious as to why I wasn't using a flash and was getting proper exposed images. I explained that with the higher ISO and shooting all manual I could set the camera to get the shots. A little trip through Lightroom and they came out better than I had expected, the noise was minimal and easily removed even with the ISO set at 3200. And people not getting their eyeballs toasted by a flash was good, they didn't mind getting their picture taken.
Photomacdog wrote:
A favorite selling point on new cameras is how high the ISO number will go. A higher ISO number makes the camera more sensitive to light, which means higher shutter speeds and smaller apertures, right? In the the next breath the "experts" are telling us to use the lowest ISO possible, to reduce "noise". I understand that, ideally, a fine camera should have high ISO settings with a minimum of noise. But why an ISO number in the tens of thousands when most photographs are taken in the hundreds?
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Photomacdog wrote:
A favorite selling point on new cameras is how high the ISO number will go. A higher ISO number makes the camera more sensitive to light, which means higher shutter speeds and smaller apertures, right? In the the next breath the "experts" are telling us to use the lowest ISO possible, to reduce "noise". I understand that, ideally, a fine camera should have high ISO settings with a minimum of noise. But why an ISO number in the tens of thousands when most photographs are taken in the hundreds?
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Indoort sports. Not my ball of wax though.
:lol: :lol:
Photomacdog wrote:
A favorite selling point on new cameras is how high the ISO number will go. A higher ISO number makes the camera more sensitive to light, which means higher shutter speeds and smaller apertures, right? In the the next breath the "experts" are telling us to use the lowest ISO possible, to reduce "noise". I understand that, ideally, a fine camera should have high ISO settings with a minimum of noise. But why an ISO number in the tens of thousands when most photographs are taken in the hundreds?
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If you want to capture a moving subject without blurring, in low light and are already using the maximum aperture, raising the iso to a high level may be the only way to get the shot. With more and more people capturing images without flash and in low light, high low-noise ISO is quite desirable
Cdouthitt wrote:
While my camera can shoot 256,000 ISO,
My camera has a Sasquatch/Nessie setting. I think it's about ISO 750,000.
Even in good light, those are supposed to come out really BAD!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Photomacdog wrote:
A favorite selling point on new cameras is how high the ISO number will go. A higher ISO number makes the camera more sensitive to light, which means higher shutter speeds and smaller apertures, right? In the the next breath the "experts" are telling us to use the lowest ISO possible, to reduce "noise". I understand that, ideally, a fine camera should have high ISO settings with a minimum of noise. But why an ISO number in the tens of thousands when most photographs are taken in the hundreds?
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Photomacdog,
"STOP" is "standard way" of comparing lens characteristics (f/stop number = focal length / aperture diameter). Also is used to express the logarithmic increments of light levels. For every fSTOP, light getting to sensor is halved or doubled, so based on starting at "1" and "1.4", you simply start doubling. So once you get above say, 3200, then 6400, 12,800, you are simply defining the next doubling of light or doubling of sensor sensitivity. As sensor development keeps getting better, those "HI" numbers might become more common.
http://www.scantips.com/lights/fstop.html
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