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Jan 18, 2015 11:43:23   #
LukesBeach Loc: Pawleys Island, SC
 
I want to take my equipment up a notch, but within reason, say a grand?
I have a Canon T3i. About a year old and amazon will give me about $300 for it. So, maybe $1300.

I was thinking 6D, 7D (Mark II), maybe the 70, etc.
I do wildlife and landscape. Do I need or want a full frame? Will my EF lenses even work on them (All Canon except for a Tamron 150-600).

OK, last question: iBart, Dax-something, have some advertised as New, but the price they advertise is so low I'm thinking something's wrong. From your experiences, who do I absolutely stay away from?

Thanks everyone.

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Jan 18, 2015 11:58:58   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
How many lenses do you have?

If you only have one or two, then it would be worth your time to think about jumping ship and moving to another brand.

The Sony A77II is the best APS-C camera on the market and can be had for less than $1000. It has EXCEPTIONAL professional performance at amateur prices, and is far superior and MUCH better than ANY Canon APS-C product on the market.

Think about it. Lots of people switch at the point you have reached, and those that switch to Sony not only are EXTREMELY satisfied, but have NO regrets.

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Jan 18, 2015 12:59:51   #
MarkD Loc: NYC
 
What do you want the new camera to do that the T3i can't do or can't do well? A FF will cost a lot more than $1300. If it's a matter of GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) you may be better off with a new lens or flash.

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Jan 18, 2015 13:36:09   #
LukesBeach Loc: Pawleys Island, SC
 
What do I want it for? Well, I was of the belief that image quality would improve with something that was a move up from the basic. My lenses include Canon 50, 18-55, 70-300, and the big Tamron I mentioned. Am I wrong thinking I need to go with a new body? If so, what lens or lenses should I add to my bag instead?
Thanks!

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Jan 18, 2015 14:05:04   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
LukesBeach wrote:
OK, last question: iBart, Dax-something, have some advertised as New, but the price they advertise is so low I'm thinking something's wrong. From your experiences, who do I absolutely stay away from?


Way too many bogus dealers to list them all. In this thread there are suggestions for some of the good guys.
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-276286-1.html

Pay attention to Jerryc41's comment, "Unfortunately, when the name is so unfamiliar that you have to ask, it's probably best to avoid it. Legitimate dealers all sell at about the same price, so if a price is considerably lower, something is fishy."

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Jan 18, 2015 14:05:45   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
LukesBeach wrote:
What do I want it for? Well, I was of the belief that image quality would improve with something that was a move up from the basic. My lenses include Canon 50, 18-55, 70-300, and the big Tamron I mentioned. Am I wrong thinking I need to go with a new body? If so, what lens or lenses should I add to my bag instead?
Thanks!


Aside from those that suggest you do a complete switch to some other brand - which may be something to consider - or go to medium format film or something - which you could also consider :D -, you need to be careful about describing your lenses carefully.

There are two types of modern Canon lenses, EF and EF-S.

EF lenses are designed for full frame cameras and will work on all EOS cameras, full-frame or APS-C.

EF-S lenses are designed exclusively for EOS APS-C cameras and should not be used on FF EOS cameras like the 6D.

If you have some EF-S lenses (and I suspect you do, specifically the 18-55) then moving to full frame will need that/those to be changed.

If you are happy with APS-C then the 7DmkII or 70D will work with all your existing lenses.

Now is a better time to move to full frame rather than later to minimize overall cost. Bear in mind that FF lenses are more expensive than APS-C (EF-S) lenses, on any brand, so think about future expenditures also.

Moving to another brand is an option, but will cost you even more in the short term.

Good luck

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Jan 18, 2015 20:34:27   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
^^^^This.

Next question; what is your budget?

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Jan 18, 2015 20:55:20   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
CHOLLY wrote:
^^^^This.

Next question; what is your budget?


In the original post. $1000 to $1300, a little more maybe with a bit of stretch?

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Jan 18, 2015 22:12:35   #
MarkD Loc: NYC
 
LukesBeach wrote:
What do I want it for? Well, I was of the belief that image quality would improve with something that was a move up from the basic. My lenses include Canon 50, 18-55, 70-300, and the big Tamron I mentioned. Am I wrong thinking I need to go with a new body? If so, what lens or lenses should I add to my bag instead?
Thanks!


The T3i is still a good camera, but if you are not happy with it, upgrading to one of the cameras you mentioned will give you some increase in image quality (IQ) especially at the higher iso's. It becomes a cost-benefit problem. Is the increase in IQ worth the cost?

When to upgrade is always a problem unless you have unlimited funds. Each generation improves on the previous one. Do we upgrade with each generation? That's up to each individual. FWIW, I wait until there is a significant improvement. I'm now using a Nikon D5200. It's been replaced by a D5300 which is now being replaced by a D5500. I'm happy with my D5200 so even though I can afford to upgrade I'm not going to. But that's me. We all have our own needs and want and what's best for me may or may not be best for you.

My advice is that if you are not happy with the T3i, and you can afford to upgrade, and you want to upgrade, do it.

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Jan 18, 2015 22:21:28   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
MarkD wrote:
The T3i is still a good camera, but if you are not happy with it, upgrading to one of the cameras you mentioned will give you some increase in image quality (IQ) especially at the higher iso's. It becomes a cost-benefit problem. Is the increase in IQ worth the cost?

When to upgrade is always a problem unless you have unlimited funds. Each generation improves on the previous one. Do we upgrade with each generation? That's up to each individual. FWIW, I wait until there is a significant improvement. I'm now using a Nikon D5200. It's been replaced by a D5300 which is now being replaced by a D5500. I'm happy with my D5200 so even though I can afford to upgrade I'm not going to. But that's me. We all have our own needs and want and what's best for me may or may not be best for you.

My advice is that if you are not happy with the T3i, and you can afford to upgrade, and you want to upgrade, do it.
The T3i is still a good camera, but if you are not... (show quote)


There is also a new Rebel rumored for imminent announcement. Patience may be a virtue.....

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Jan 18, 2015 22:32:00   #
Laura72568 Loc: Anderson TX
 
IMHO only, I would consider buying a lightly used 7D (not Mark II). You can buy one now for around $700. Then I would start selling any EF-S lenses you might have (in case you upgrade to a full frame in the future) and use any additional money on a 70-200mm f/4L (new $700ish) Then move to looking at a lightly used 24-105mm f/4L for around $600. If you need a low light lens, try a 50mm prime f/1.4 (new $399/ lightly used $300). That would be a good start.

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Jan 19, 2015 04:10:56   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Laura72568 wrote:
IMHO only, I would consider buying a lightly used 7D (not Mark II). You can buy one now for around $700. Then I would start selling any EF-S lenses you might have (in case you upgrade to a full frame in the future) and use any additional money on a 70-200mm f/4L (new $700ish) Then move to looking at a lightly used 24-105mm f/4L for around $600. If you need a low light lens, try a 50mm prime f/1.4 (new $399/ lightly used $300). That would be a good start.


Laura, I agree with the suggestion about the 7D.
What I don't understand is WHY he should dump all his EFs glass. If he goes from a crop camera to a crop camera, it's all still quite usable as well as smaller and lighter.
To plan for a Camera he does not have and may NEVER have seems a little short sighted to me. When he goes FF, then he can dump it at THAT time! Just saying! ;-)
SS

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Jan 19, 2015 09:12:29   #
LukesBeach Loc: Pawleys Island, SC
 
It's always great to have smarter people than I who can bring me down to earth. Instead of investing in a new camera body, I'll concentrate on new glass investments.
Thanks to all!

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Jan 19, 2015 11:22:37   #
Laura72568 Loc: Anderson TX
 
Okay, I guess I was just thinking ahead. Like I said, just my opinion.

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Jan 19, 2015 12:51:12   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
LukesBeach wrote:

OK, last question: iBart, Dax-something, have some advertised as New, but the price they advertise is so low I'm thinking something's wrong. From your experiences, who do I absolutely stay away from?

Thanks everyone.

In my experience, if it sounds to good to be true, it usually is.

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