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Jan 11, 2015 08:19:40   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Robin Poole wrote:
I've been using the Sigzilla 300-800mm for about 3 years. When you get the lens you also need to get a heavy tripod. It weighs at least 11lbs, possibly 13. I like the flexibility of a zoom for compositional purposes. Isn't sharpness a "relative"" entity and the amount there of exists in the eye of the beholder? My website has lots of elk, bear, deer, osprey shots all done with different Sigma zoom lens. The biggest reason for lack of sharpness is my shooting at slow shutter speeds If interested, go to www.robinsnaturepics.smugmug.com

Robin
I've been using the Sigzilla 300-800mm for about ... (show quote)


Excellent work, Robin. I agree, much of the fuss over ultimate sharpness is unwarranted.

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Jan 11, 2015 10:28:10   #
CraigFair Loc: Santa Maria, CA.
 
Bram boy wrote:
yea I guess your right just think if man was as about as evolved as a chimp
or ape for as long as he has been here . your right the world is what we make
it . have a look around at how we made it the rain Foerest is being cut down
at the the rate of one manhattan island every or is it more . every day were killing more plants and insect life . small and large anamals becoming extinct
starving , bombing , wars pollution . sink holes . yea were doing a great job
of how we make it . yes it would be a real hell hole if man wasent here . the
anamals would be over running every thing , every thing would be in balance
nature will never have it as good as it was before man got his shit hooks in to
every thing that he possibly could . I suggest you open your eyes . the best thing that could ever happen to planet earth is for man to blow himself to
kingdom come .hopefully there will be enough life of any thing but man to
carry on . they could do a million percent better than man . man has not done any thing good for this planet since he's been here . just destroy and pollute
and waste, and take never giving any thing back . not even his boby it's cremated or embalmed and buryed to deep to be of any value . even the wild life have decency to give back when they die . and they dident take, and make pollution every where you look . our body's are even polluted when were buried . ! what's that all about . were a total waste from the time were born tell we die then were still a waste , cremated or what ever . we are a dying race , no doupt about it . the dinasours have been here much longer than we will ever be . yea your right what we make of it . when will that be ?
yea I guess your right just think if man was as ab... (show quote)


Have a nice day.

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Jan 11, 2015 10:50:19   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
Robin Poole wrote:
I've been using the Sigzilla 300-800mm for about 3 years. When you get the lens you also need to get a heavy tripod. It weighs at least 11lbs, possibly 13. I like the flexibility of a zoom for compositional purposes. Isn't sharpness a "relative"" entity and the amount there of exists in the eye of the beholder? My website has lots of elk, bear, deer, osprey shots all done with different Sigma zoom lens. The biggest reason for lack of sharpness is my shooting at slow shutter speeds If interested, go to www.robinsnaturepics.smugmug.com

Robin
I've been using the Sigzilla 300-800mm for about ... (show quote)


Robin,

I took a look at your website and was impressed. I particularly like shooting Eagles and you had quite a few shots of them on your site. I have to agree with you, the lack of sharpness of your Eagles photos was due to a slow shutter speed. The fastest I found was 1/800 of a second, and I only found one at that speed. Can I ask a question?

Why do you shoot at such a slow shutter speed when you shoot your Eagles? There would be so much more detail if you shot at 1/1000 of a second or faster.

Jim D

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Jan 15, 2015 11:13:24   #
LaoXiang
 
At six-plus pounds, I wonder if this lens could be used successfully without a monopod tripod, and if so, for how long. I mainly shoot sports, and mobility is key.

I have the Tamron 150-600 and have been having real good luck with it—I have even gotten some sharp shots in the 500–600 range, where most people complain it is too soft. It can get to be a bit heavy hand-held, and a bit heavy to carry around all day (added to another camera and a couple lenses, supplies, water, etc. which I need for a several-hour shoot.)

Id the picture quality much better than the Tamron? if not, two Tammys cost the same as one big Sigma, so unless the Sigma has more than twice the usable lifespan ...

On top of that, by the time the Tamron dies, there will probably be a much better low-priced mega-lens.

I would consider selling the Tamron and buy the Sigma if the image quality was markedly better. Has anyone shot the two side by side?

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Jan 15, 2015 12:02:29   #
tamalero Loc: Mexico
 
LaoXiang wrote:
At six-plus pounds, I wonder if this lens could be used successfully without a monopod tripod, and if so, for how long. I mainly shoot sports, and mobility is key.

I have the Tamron 150-600 and have been having real good luck with it—I have even gotten some sharp shots in the 500–600 range, where most people complain it is too soft. It can get to be a bit heavy hand-held, and a bit heavy to carry around all day (added to another camera and a couple lenses, supplies, water, etc. which I need for a several-hour shoot.)

Id the picture quality much better than the Tamron? if not, two Tammys cost the same as one big Sigma, so unless the Sigma has more than twice the usable lifespan ...

On top of that, by the time the Tamron dies, there will probably be a much better low-priced mega-lens.

I would consider selling the Tamron and buy the Sigma if the image quality was markedly better. Has anyone shot the two side by side?
At six-plus pounds, I wonder if this lens could be... (show quote)


someone did, just search the forum.

Not sure if it was MO Shooter or some other experienced shooter in the forum.
but had side by side shots of a house.

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Jan 15, 2015 12:11:03   #
redhogbill Loc: antelope, calif
 
tamalero wrote:
someone did, just search the forum.

Not sure if it was MO Shooter or some other experienced shooter in the forum.
but had side by side shots of a house.



MTShooter

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Jan 15, 2015 12:12:48   #
mtparker Loc: Cape Charles & Springfield, Virginia
 
MT Shooter wrote:
While I am a big fan of the Sigma 800mm F5.6 Prime, I am not that impressed with the 300-800mm F5.6 zoom. It is exceedingly heavy, never seemed as sharp as the prime at 800mm, and at 300mm F5.6 is a real light hog. It is still a very good bargain as it can be had for less than the Nikon or Canon 500mm F4 lenses.


My experience is different. My 300-800 is sharp end to end and exquisitely sharp at f5.6 and f8. Equal to the one example of the Sigma 800 prime I used several years ago at a photo show.

Big ... Yes!
Heavy ... Yes!
Worth the effort to haul around ... Hell Yes!

One thing I would change ... update it as a 500-800

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Jan 15, 2015 12:24:29   #
jbaird Loc: Coatesville, Pa
 
Bram boy wrote:
yea I guess your right just think if man was as about as evolved as a chimp
or ape for as long as he has been here . your right the world is what we make
it . have a look around at how we made it the rain Foerest is being cut down
at the the rate of one manhattan island every or is it more . every day were killing more plants and insect life . small and large anamals becoming extinct
starving , bombing , wars pollution . sink holes . yea were doing a great job
of how we make it . yes it would be a real hell hole if man wasent here . the
anamals would be over running every thing , every thing would be in balance
nature will never have it as good as it was before man got his shit hooks in to
every thing that he possibly could . I suggest you open your eyes . the best thing that could ever happen to planet earth is for man to blow himself to
kingdom come .hopefully there will be enough life of any thing but man to
carry on . they could do a million percent better than man . man has not done any thing good for this planet since he's been here . just destroy and pollute
and waste, and take never giving any thing back . not even his boby it's cremated or embalmed and buryed to deep to be of any value . even the wild life have decency to give back when they die . and they dident take, and make pollution every where you look . our body's are even polluted when were buried . ! what's that all about . were a total waste from the time were born tell we die then were still a waste , cremated or what ever . we are a dying race , no doupt about it . the dinasours have been here much longer than we will ever be . yea your right what we make of it . when will that be ?
yea I guess your right just think if man was as ab... (show quote)


Sometimes you make a good point, but it is REALLY DIFFICULT to see it with your crazy punctuation scheme. I'm sure you can do better than this.

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Jan 15, 2015 13:28:12   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
LaoXiang wrote:
At six-plus pounds, I wonder if this lens could be used successfully without a monopod tripod, and if so, for how long. I mainly shoot sports, and mobility is key.

I have the Tamron 150-600 and have been having real good luck with it—I have even gotten some sharp shots in the 500–600 range, where most people complain it is too soft. It can get to be a bit heavy hand-held, and a bit heavy to carry around all day (added to another camera and a couple lenses, supplies, water, etc. which I need for a several-hour shoot.)

Id the picture quality much better than the Tamron? if not, two Tammys cost the same as one big Sigma, so unless the Sigma has more than twice the usable lifespan ...

On top of that, by the time the Tamron dies, there will probably be a much better low-priced mega-lens.

I would consider selling the Tamron and buy the Sigma if the image quality was markedly better. Has anyone shot the two side by side?
At six-plus pounds, I wonder if this lens could be... (show quote)



You must be an exceptionally strong person. As a longtime sports shooter most all of my lenses are on a monopod. My 400/2.8 weights over 10 lbs, and they go up from there. My 70-200, which is normally on the camera over my shoulder, is handheld, as is any shorter zoom or prime. Even at six lbs I'd want a monopod, and mostly likely at 4 lbs as well (your Tamron). I personally consider a monopod a necessity for sports. If I happen to have a second shooter/helper with me, there are at least two. I have also shot both lenses and prefer the Sigma for several reasons as stated here many times; however, the Tamron is also a good lens, especially for the price. As with camera choice, use what works for you, what you're comfortable with, and what you can afford. The lens you have is far more valuable that the one you're saving for. Best of luck.

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Jan 15, 2015 15:04:30   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
jbaird wrote:
Sometimes you make a good point, but it is REALLY DIFFICULT to see it with your crazy punctuation scheme. I'm sure you can do better than this.


well to put it in a nut shell , as Walter said to his wife "I" am the danger .
we could say that to the earth , only you could simply say to planit
earth. Human kind is the Cancer to earth . there is nothing more devastating
to earth than human kind . we Are The Cancer and if you can't see that look a little closer we are not ment to be here . the cancer we are getting was unheard of years ago . it is simply earth fighting back trying to snuff us out .
it will succeed eventually . and if you don't see that your blind .

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