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Jan 6, 2015 11:45:49   #
Muddyvalley Loc: McMinnville, Oregon
 
CaptainC wrote:
Now Norman, nobody ever discouraged the learning process. Your response says more about your political views than addressing the issue. The point was that while it is fine and interesting and fascinating to learn about the inner workings of things, there are times when that knowledge is of more of an academic nature than practical....


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This is illustrated by the fact that few if any of the respondents to this thread, (myself included) many who are no doubt excellent photographers, were able to answer the OP's question as asked and most actually misunderstood the question.

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Jan 6, 2015 11:49:06   #
NormanHarley Loc: Colorado
 
Muddyvalley wrote:
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This is illustrated by the fact that few if any of the respondents to this thread, (myself included) many who are no doubt excellent photographers, were able to answer the OP's question as asked and most actually misunderstood the question.


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Jan 6, 2015 12:01:05   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
NormanHarley wrote:
...what if, just maybe, it were to help someone else in their quest to create better art? Believing that Stephen Hawking's book "does not do a thing for our daily lives" is made from your perceptions and limitations. ...


Practicality gets the amoeba from one reproductive cycle to the next and practicality pays the mortgage.
But expendible income and the pursuit of knowledge lend value to the wonderful status of being human.

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Jan 6, 2015 12:05:20   #
NormanHarley Loc: Colorado
 
oldtigger wrote:
Practicality gets the amoeba from one reproductive cycle to the next and practicality pays the mortgage.
But expendible income and the pursuit of knowledge lend value to the wonderful status of being human.


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Well said, oldtigger! And I am likely to paraphrase your comment in the future! :lol:

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Jan 6, 2015 12:22:40   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
oldtigger wrote:
Practicality gets the amoeba from one reproductive cycle to the next and practicality pays the mortgage.
But expendible income and the pursuit of knowledge lend value to the wonderful status of being human.


I absolutely agree.

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Jan 6, 2015 12:26:45   #
Muddyvalley Loc: McMinnville, Oregon
 
oldtigger wrote:
Practicality gets the amoeba from one reproductive cycle to the next and practicality pays the mortgage.
But expendable income and the pursuit of knowledge lend value to the wonderful status of being human.


Well said!
However the pursuit needs to be directed or it becomes meaningless to the original goal. Sort of like this conversation, which has evolved into something that has only a very indirect relationship to the OP's question. :roll: :)

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Jan 6, 2015 12:29:49   #
NormanHarley Loc: Colorado
 
rehess wrote:
Learning is fine. My point was that one can be an excellent photographer without that particular knowledge, just as one can be an excellent photographer without having my wife's knowledge of the duality of light (she has a PhD in Theoretical Physical Chemistry).


OP never stated that he wanted to be a better photographer, nor did he ask how this might improve his photographic skills. Just a wild guess here on my part, maybe he wants to become a lens designer.... He wanted to learn, he never requested input on how he would or would not need or use this knowledge in taking photographs.

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Jan 6, 2015 13:38:12   #
CaltechNerd Loc: Whittier, CA, USA
 
I couldn't agree more. I know a lot about light and lenses. It helps when deciding how to adjust aperture and shutter but that's all.

On the other hand, I'm really lousy at spotting the great scene and capturing it in the camera. I really need to learn more about composition. Without that, I'll just be producing more and more perfectly exposed and perfectly focused boring pictures. And I don't need any more, I have more than enough of those already!

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Jan 6, 2015 13:58:17   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
NormanHarley wrote:
OP never stated that he wanted to be a better photographer, nor did he ask how this might improve his photographic skills. Just a wild guess here on my part, maybe he wants to become a lens designer.
That is a very lofty ambition ... and I wish well to anyone with those ambitions.

At one time I was a software engineer with a defense contractor, where I rubbed shoulders with antennae designers. There is a lot of physics in designing antennae, but those who do that work at a high level are more artists than engineers. There is no simple solution and no direct path to that solution. The same is true of lens designers.

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Jan 6, 2015 16:00:26   #
jimedge Loc: Wrexham, north Wales
 
NormanHarley wrote:
That's a bunch of hyperbola :-D (What? A little mathematical humor seemed appropriate. :lol: )


thanks for injecting a little humour. I still think this discussion should have been held in a good bar!

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Jan 7, 2015 06:32:22   #
EdM Loc: FN30JS
 
rehess wrote:
That is a very lofty ambition ... and I wish well to anyone with those ambitions.

At one time I was a software engineer with a defense contractor, where I rubbed shoulders with antennae designers. There is a lot of physics in designing antennae, but those who do that work at a high level are more artists than engineers. There is no simple solution and no direct path to that solution. The same is true of lens designers.

Yeh, me too. Used to run a 1008 inch chamber good down to a hundred motorcycles. Be surprised how many antennas did not work (meet spec) got rebuild with similar parts and then worked,...

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Jan 10, 2015 05:40:37   #
garceh Loc: florida
 
69rdstr wrote:
I'm new here and to photography. I've done a bit of research and this article helped me considerably.

http://www.uscoles.com/fstop.htm


Thanks. Good info.

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Jan 10, 2015 06:06:54   #
garceh Loc: florida
 
CaptainC wrote:
Oh I know. I was a flight instructor for years - both general aviation and airlines and many pilots have that same engineer mentality. That was great back in the old days when we were supposed to know how everything worked. In the last 25-30 years, though, stuff has gotten so complex that even the FAA realizes that knowing HOW something works is useless knowledge. All that matters is how do we use it and what do we do if it doesn't work. Knowing HOW GPS works might be interesting - even fascinating - but it has nothing to do with using it. Zip.

The group more frustrating than engineers to teach was lawyers. Even the technically proficient ones had trouble passing the written exams because they could not take the questions at face value. They always wondered, "What are they REALLY asking?"
Oh I know. I was a flight instructor for years - b... (show quote)


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