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Nov 22, 2014 14:28:35   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
Agree - Sony a7 is an awesome system and this is coming from a die hard Canon guy. I plan to get into one of these for a walk around & Travel ASAP.

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Nov 22, 2014 16:07:13   #
HarryBinNC Loc: Blue Ridge Mtns, No.Carolina, USA
 
cuzinvin wrote:
That's why I asked you . . . so far just the 18-55. I really wish they had something similar to my Nikon 70-200. If they did, I really think I'd sell my entire Nikon set-up, and just settle-in with a couple of other Fuji lenses.


I have had Fuji X cameras since the beginning, starting with the X100, then the X-Pro1, and now the XT1. I love them all for different reasons, and rarely take the D800 out of the bag since I got the XT1. I started with the 3 primes (18,35,60mm) when I got the X-Pro1. Then, since I have always been partial to zooms, got the 18-55 the minute it was available. Likewise, the 18-135. They are both remarkable zooms, but the range of the 18-135 makes me leave it on the camera 90% of the time. I really like the compactness of the 18-55, but it just a little short a lot of the time, and the camera fits my everyday small Domke bag with the 18-135 attached, so I really have no reason to use the 18-55 anymore. The only other lens that I usually take with me in that bag is my 12-24/f4 Nikkor, which I use with an adapter for the extra wide shots (architectural interiors, single shot panoramas). I use a 55/1.2 Nikkor with an adapter for those special occasion portraits with nice blurry backgrounds. And last, but not least, I have a Nikkor 50-300/f4.5 for the long-range shots of birds and alligators in the swamps that we love to visit. If someone would come up with a wide-angle tilt-shift lens for the X system, I would definitely sell my D800 kit.

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Nov 22, 2014 18:03:00   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
HarryBinNC wrote:
I have had Fuji X cameras since the beginning, starting with the X100, then the X-Pro1, and now the XT1. I love them all for different reasons, and rarely take the D800 out of the bag since I got the XT1. I started with the 3 primes (18,35,60mm) when I got the X-Pro1. Then, since I have always been partial to zooms, got the 18-55 the minute it was available. Likewise, the 18-135. They are both remarkable zooms, but the range of the 18-135 makes me leave it on the camera 90% of the time. I really like the compactness of the 18-55, but it just a little short a lot of the time, and the camera fits my everyday small Domke bag with the 18-135 attached, so I really have no reason to use the 18-55 anymore. The only other lens that I usually take with me in that bag is my 12-24/f4 Nikkor, which I use with an adapter for the extra wide shots (architectural interiors, single shot panoramas). I use a 55/1.2 Nikkor with an adapter for those special occasion portraits with nice blurry backgrounds. And last, but not least, I have a Nikkor 50-300/f4.5 for the long-range shots of birds and alligators in the swamps that we love to visit. If someone would come up with a wide-angle tilt-shift lens for the X system, I would definitely sell my D800 kit.
I have had Fuji X cameras since the beginning, sta... (show quote)
I really like the Fuji product also. Fuji and Sony are ahead of the Mirrorless camera compatition.

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Nov 22, 2014 21:17:08   #
jjestar Loc: Savannah GA
 
cuzinvin wrote:
Better than nothing, I suppose. Problem is that I don't have a place nearby where I can look at it. No camera store here carries Fuji, and I've never seen any of their lenses for rent. One of these days, I'll go the "the big city," and take a look. I'm also intrigued re. what 2015 will bring in the anticipated long lens from Fuji.


New X series lens roadmap http://www.fujifilm.com/news/n140724.html

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Nov 22, 2014 22:14:12   #
cuzinvin Loc: Reno, Nevada
 
Thanks very much.

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Nov 23, 2014 06:26:27   #
Peekayoh Loc: UK
 
HarryBinNC wrote:
I stand by my statement - I didn't claim that mirrorless cameras currently have all of the capabilities or features of high-end DSLRs. What I meant is that any of the mirrorless camera makers could at any time make a camera that would exactly duplicate all of the functions and features of any Pro DSLR (except for the flippy mirror and through-the lens optical finder that the mirror makes possible).
You may stand by it but you're wrong. The point is that the DSLR with it's OVF allows some things to be done better than an EVF camera manages. This is the whole debate, if it weren't so, the EVF would already dominate.

HarryBinNC wrote:
Fortunately, they aren't just trying to copy DSLR tech. Rather, they are doing their own thing and advancing camera technology to new highs, exemplified in the already excellent EVFs and combined phase and contrast focus on the image sensors, which provides more accurate and in some cases, faster autofocus than DSLRs - and this is just for starters.
Certainly the Mirrorless manufacturers are catching up but they aren't there yet.

HarryBinNC wrote:
I sincerely believe that advancing technology is in the final stages of making DSLRs irrelevant - Canon and Nikon (and a lot of photographers) just haven't accepted the inevitable yet.
:lol: I think that both Canon and Nikon are well aware of what's going on and they are likely to enter the Mirrorless market next year. I hope Sony has a big enough lead but who knows!

HarryBinNC wrote:
For example, have you had a serious look at the on-chip phase detect system in the Sony A6000? It has phase detect sensors covering over 90% of the image sensor, which results in continuous tracking auto focus that is superior to most DSLRs. You can read Gordon Laing's excellent A6000 review summary here: http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Sony_Alpha_A6000/verdict.shtml
Of course I know about the A6000, I am after all a Sony User. The A6000 is good and promises better things to come but it's not up to the A77II for instance.

Look I'm not trying to put you down, it's just that you are a bit previous and letting your enthusiasm run away with you and cloud your vision. If you have read any of my posts in other threads you would know that I do believe that Mirrorless cameras will inevitably supplant the DSLR but we're not there quite yet. It's just as important to recognise the weaknesses of Mirrorless as it is to recognise their strengths.

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Nov 23, 2014 06:27:36   #
Peekayoh Loc: UK
 
Peekayoh wrote:
I thought I was! The OP states that FF has spoiled him and I know from experience that once you have got used to Full Frame, it's hard to be completely satisfied with a small sensor.
craggycrossers wrote:
Yes, you "thought" you were, but you are not the OP ! He/she has also stated that a lessor sensor would be fine. Your "experiences" with full frame are important to you, but perhaps not necessarily to the OP, who, let's face it, has his/her own set of full frame experiences. You appear to me to be saying "the ONLY way to go is full frame". I think there are many, including myself, who have a different opinion. Our job here is to give options without the "the only way to go is xxx" bit.

Time for the OP to make another appearance perhaps !!
Yes, you "thought" you were, but you are... (show quote)
I never said the "only way to go is FF". If you read my comments, you'll see that I use a crop camera as well as Full Frame as well as Mirrorless. If a perfect camera existed, I'd only have the one.

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Nov 24, 2014 16:18:33   #
craggycrossers Loc: Robin Hood Country, UK
 
Peekayoh wrote:
I never said the "only way to go is FF". If you read my comments, you'll see that I use a crop camera as well as Full Frame as well as Mirrorless. If a perfect camera existed, I'd only have the one.


Not gonna argue old chap ! Not worth it. Someone else also took some sort of unintended "implication" from one of my earlier comments in this thread.

Frankly I'm getting tired of it all. Especially when we hear nothing further from the original poster !

Don't worry - we aren't going to fall out ! Cheers !

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Nov 28, 2014 10:27:50   #
OviedoPhotos
 
All of the suggestions were awesome and I spent time reading the reviews. My goal was something inexpensive.

As a Nikon guy I looked at the Nikon 1 series and wasn't impressed.

At the local camera store I found a new Sony A3000 with a 18-50 lens on it for $350. It is awesome for what it will be used for, basically tossed in the suitcase when I travel and need something to take a quick photo. Cell phone cameras are just not doing it for me.

BTW, the panorama mode builtin to it is rather nice.

Thanks imagemeister.

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Nov 28, 2014 10:52:17   #
AntonioReyna Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
I am primarily a Canon shooter, but for a recent trip to Mexico, I just took my Sony NEX-6 with the tiny 16-50pz lens. It did the job and I never missed the Canon. Make it simple. The latest, and best, of this model is the A6000 which everyone raves about. Both have viewfinders which I demand in what I shoot with.
OviedoPhotos wrote:
Although I enjoy my Nikon d800 with various lenses it gets clumsy to travel with them. I'm looking for a good mirror-less camera with a interchangeable lens feature and built-in flash if possible. Being old school I prefer a viewfinder.

At the local camera store they offer a few models and the EVF's are nice enough and I can live with that. The small size is the big draw. Full frame has spoiled me but a cropped sensor is OK. Looking for something I can toss in my carry on when I travel by air.

Thanks in advance for any info.
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