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Upgrading my Canon 40D- -Your thoughts on newer 7D vs older Full Frame 1DS Mark II??
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Feb 14, 2012 09:36:35   #
jwegge11 Loc: Stillwater, MN
 
I am looking at an upgrade. My heart was set on the 7D due to the newer technology and faster fps. Now I am getting drawn in to the Full Frame bodies. The 7D and Mark II are fairly similar in price as I want to stay under $2K.

I shoot about 30% sports so want the faster fps and other 70% is split between Architecture/Landscape photography and Portraits.

I own all EF "L" lenses from Canon-- 16-35 L, 24-105 Macro L IS, and 70-200 L IS f/4.

Is the older technology of the 1DS Mark II worth it to get Full Frame vs Crop Sensored 7D or is the newer technology of the 7D better?

Any thoughts would certainly be appreciated.

Jeff

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Feb 14, 2012 09:43:57   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
Where are you finding a 5D MKII for under $2,000? B&H Has them listed at $2,250 (before $100 savings).

Personally, if you are wanting to go full-frame, I think I would wait and see if the 5D MKIII comes out this year, the price of the MKII will drop. :)

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Feb 14, 2012 09:53:48   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
The 7D is definitely better for sports. My vote is for the 7D.

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Feb 14, 2012 09:55:55   #
jkaye65 Loc: Chico, CA
 
I'd go full frame.

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Feb 14, 2012 09:59:07   #
Swamp Gator Loc: Coastal South Carolina
 
MWAC wrote:
Where are you finding a 5D MKII for under $2,000? B&H Has them listed at $2,250 (before $100 savings).



MWAC he is talking about Canon's older 1D MKII FF camera, not the 5D.

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Feb 14, 2012 09:59:18   #
Falcon Loc: Abilene, Texas
 
jkaye65 wrote:
I'm almost positive that the 7D is not full frame.


It is not. It is a 1.6 crop factor--although the term "crop factor" is an inaccurate term apparently. I do not remember what is actually the true engineering term.

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Feb 14, 2012 10:06:32   #
Swamp Gator Loc: Coastal South Carolina
 
Jeff are you talking a used 1D MKII? I'm not sure who would be selling new ones for around the $1,300 price point of the 7D body.

Anyway, for sports there is no question I'd go for the 7D all day long.
For landscapes, architecture and scenics etc. certainly the FF is a better choice so only you can make the decision on what is most important to you.

However, if I was considering a FF body right now I'd try to come up with the extra cash and go for a 5D over that older 1D MKII.

You have excellent lenses that will work great no matter which route you choose.

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Feb 14, 2012 10:08:34   #
Glenn K
 
Swamp Gator wrote:
MWAC wrote:
Where are you finding a 5D MKII for under $2,000? B&H Has them listed at $2,250 (before $100 savings).



MWAC he is talking about Canon's older 1D MKII FF camera, not the 5D.


Actually, he stated the he was considering the 1Ds Mark II as the alternative to the 7D. :)

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Feb 14, 2012 10:12:28   #
Glenn K
 
Glenn K wrote:
Swamp Gator wrote:
MWAC wrote:
Where are you finding a 5D MKII for under $2,000? B&H Has them listed at $2,250 (before $100 savings).



MWAC he is talking about Canon's older 1D MKII FF camera, not the 5D.


Actually, he stated the he was considering the 1Ds Mark II as the alternative to the 7D. :)


P.S. B&H has a used1Ds Mark II in 8+ condition for $2100.

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Feb 14, 2012 10:14:36   #
dasloaf
 
I love my 7 d for sports







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Feb 14, 2012 10:35:55   #
Glenn K
 
Glenn K wrote:
Swamp Gator wrote:
MWAC wrote:
Where are you finding a 5D MKII for under $2,000? B&H Has them listed at $2,250 (before $100 savings).



MWAC he is talking about Canon's older 1D MKII FF camera, not the 5D.


Actually, he stated the he was considering the 1Ds Mark II as the alternative to the 7D. :)


P.S. B&H has a used1Ds Mark II in 8+ condition for $2100.

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Feb 15, 2012 06:59:50   #
Steve Byland Loc: New Jersey
 
The problem I see is that you want TWO cameras. I'd definitely go for the 7d for sports. Speed and quality are there along with the ability to microtune each lens to razor sharpness. I got mine the day they came out and have over 160k shots on it. After well over a year, I finally decided to try the video because of an extremely rare bird (Albinio Hummingbird) and it actually takes VERY good videos that you might like to try with sports. You get huge DOF in lower light. Note: You can't continuously focus very well, so you'd want to setu up right on the goal line (football) or hoop area (basketball), etc. You can still take very good landscape shots with the 7d, but maybe look around for a used, older 5d if you still want it.

You can see some of my videos taken with the 7d. Keep in mind that I downsized these ENORMOUSLY to allow them to upload more quickly - this makes them a little choppy, which they are NOT at larger sizes. They can be seen at:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/steve_byland/sets/72157627475821373/

In particular, a shot of geese taking off at sunset (very low light) with the tripod on the front seat of the car:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/steve_byland/6497376157/in/set-72157627475821373

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Feb 15, 2012 07:20:13   #
jwegge11 Loc: Stillwater, MN
 
Mr. Byland--U are reading my mind. Decided I'll go with the 7D and eventually for portraits and landscapes...look for a 5D Mark II with lots of clicks to save some dough.

Appreciate the input.

Jeff

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Feb 15, 2012 07:23:49   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
If you are using it 70% of the time for landscapes, architecture, and portraits, I think you may have answered your own question. I may consider a new 5D mark ll though vs. The used older technology. Good hunting.

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Feb 15, 2012 07:28:48   #
jwegge11 Loc: Stillwater, MN
 
Perhaps a silly question. Are all 5D Mark II's exactly the same technology or does it depend on age. I realize the 5D Mark I would be 'older' technology.

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