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Oct 24, 2014 22:36:04   #
Caysnowman Loc: MN & SC
 
I noticed the photographers behind the plate are shooting through a net that has a fairly heavy grid. They are using big lenses and fast bodies but how do they get clear pictures, is it by using a bigger Apeture to get a smaller DOF?

Bill

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Oct 25, 2014 13:54:11   #
HEART Loc: God's Country - COLORADO
 
From another site:

Shooting with large aperture telephoto (300mm f2.8, 400mm f2.8, 600 f4, etc.) at maximum aperture with lens hood right up against the netting will do the job. With lens' front element only inches away from netting, combining with these lenses' minimum focusing distance being 5 feet or greater, and their large apertures, the nettings will barely, if at all, registered on the resulting photos. Additionally, if there is AF difficulty in such situation, manual focusing on a pitcher is easily manageable.

Now, if the netting is too closely meshed, focal length is shorter, aperture is smaller, and/or lens is positioned too far back away from netting, then you won't have shallow enough of depth-of-field to blur away the obstacle. Shooting a 35mm at f5.6 2 feet away from the same netting, you'll most likely have a nicely focused black netting with blurred action in the field.


Also, from the Hog:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-179360-1.html


Hope these will help!

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Oct 25, 2014 15:28:36   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
The diameter of the lens also affects this. Here's an extreme example.
Sigma 150-500 focused at 50 feet out.
Front element is over 3 inches across.
Shooting at a squirrel which got away), looking through the viewfinder, didn't notice I had panned down to where a 1 1/4 inch pipe was directly in front of the lens.

This should not work.
This should not work....

View from the front.
View from the front....

This is straight out of camera with only slight adjustment to brightness and contrast!
This is straight out of camera with only slight ad...

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Oct 25, 2014 15:35:54   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
OddJobber wrote:
The diameter of the lens also affects this. Here's an extreme example.
Sigma 150-500 focused at 50 feet out.
Front element is over 3 inches across.
Shooting at a squirrel which got away), looking through the viewfinder, didn't notice I had panned down to where a 1 1/4 inch pipe was directly in front of the lens.


Odd, now just imaging if you had shot that with a BIG lens!! :lol: :lol:
SS

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Oct 25, 2014 17:33:01   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
When I shoot college baseball I get as close to the net as possible. It doesn't really show up. I do the same thing with tennis. You do have to be careful though. I've been nearly hit with a ball at both events.

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Oct 25, 2014 19:33:23   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Darkroom317 wrote:
When I shoot college baseball I get as close to the net as possible. It doesn't really show up. I do the same thing with tennis. You do have to be careful though. I've been nearly hit with a ball at both events.



Fair warning. I saw a guy in the front row behind home plate get knocked down because he was too close to the net. Those foul tips don't allow for a lot of reaction time.

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Oct 25, 2014 20:44:07   #
Caysnowman Loc: MN & SC
 
HEART wrote:
From another site:

Shooting with large aperture telephoto (300mm f2.8, 400mm f2.8, 600 f4, etc.) at maximum aperture with lens hood right up against the netting will do the job. With lens' front element only inches away from netting, combining with these lenses' minimum focusing distance being 5 feet or greater, and their large apertures, the nettings will barely, if at all, registered on the resulting photos. Additionally, if there is AF difficulty in such situation, manual focusing on a pitcher is easily manageable.

Now, if the netting is too closely meshed, focal length is shorter, aperture is smaller, and/or lens is positioned too far back away from netting, then you won't have shallow enough of depth-of-field to blur away the obstacle. Shooting a 35mm at f5.6 2 feet away from the same netting, you'll most likely have a nicely focused black netting with blurred action in the field.

Hope these will help!
From another site: br br Shooting with large aper... (show quote)


It does. Short time back I tried to photograph a hawk in a cage with a 50mm and was about 10 feet from the cage. Needless to say it did not turn out well.

Thanks for the info. Bill

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Oct 25, 2014 20:46:12   #
Caysnowman Loc: MN & SC
 
OddJobber wrote:
The diameter of the lens also affects this. Here's an extreme example.
Sigma 150-500 focused at 50 feet out.
Front element is over 3 inches across.
Shooting at a squirrel which got away), looking through the viewfinder, didn't notice I had panned down to where a 1 1/4 inch pipe was directly in front of the lens.


That is amazing. Had you not sent the pics I would have bet that the pipe would be very visible. Thanks for taking the time to dl you pics and let me gain from your experience.

Bill

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Oct 25, 2014 20:48:46   #
Caysnowman Loc: MN & SC
 
Darkroom317 wrote:
When I shoot college baseball I get as close to the net as possible. It doesn't really show up. I do the same thing with tennis. You do have to be careful though. I've been nearly hit with a ball at both events.


Thanks for sharing your experience. What are the odds that a foul tip could find YOUR lens in a big ball park :shock: :shock:

Bill

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Oct 25, 2014 20:52:21   #
Caysnowman Loc: MN & SC
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Fair warning. I saw a guy in the front row behind home plate get knocked down because he was too close to the net. Those foul tips don't allow for a lot of reaction time.


Amen!

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Oct 25, 2014 21:04:36   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
Caysnowman wrote:
Thanks for sharing your experience. What are the odds that a foul tip could find YOUR lens in a big ball park :shock: :shock:

Bill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUgiflgBqvg

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Oct 25, 2014 21:33:28   #
Caysnowman Loc: MN & SC
 
St3v3M wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUgiflgBqvg


It couldn't happen a second time, could it :shock:

Bill

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Oct 25, 2014 21:35:50   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
Caysnowman wrote:
It couldn't happen a second time, could it :shock:

Bill

http://www.google.com/#q=sports+photographer+hit+by+ball&tbm=vid

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Oct 25, 2014 23:01:44   #
Caysnowman Loc: MN & SC
 
St3v3M wrote:
http://www.google.com/#q=sports+photographer+hit+by+ball&tbm=vid


Guess it could :oops:

Bill

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Oct 25, 2014 23:03:02   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
Caysnowman wrote:
Guess it could :oops:

Bill

May it never happen to you!

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