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Sep 23, 2014 09:21:55   #
jgreco Loc: Orlando, FL
 
OK 2 different camera's same shot same location on tripod. Shot in raw and auto processed with Photoshop CS5. Other than a variation of color, I don't see the difference between the 2 camera's. Am I missing something here. I am sending the pics and info download.
I did notice the same lens on different camera was different in AV, and speed. That may be due to the digic processor, 50D full frame and T5i smaller?

Canon 50D
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Canon T5i modified processor
Canon T5i modified processor...
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Sep 23, 2014 09:36:04   #
jmizera Loc: Austin Texas
 
jgreco wrote:
OK 2 different camera's same shot same location on tripod. Shot in raw and auto processed with Photoshop CS5. Other than a variation of color, I don't see the difference between the 2 camera's. Am I missing something here. I am sending the pics and info download.
I did notice the same lens on different camera was different in AV, and speed. That may be due to the digic processor, 50D full frame and T5i smaller?


The Canon's processor looks to have sharpness and color bumped up a bit.

It seems from your question you expected different results?

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Sep 23, 2014 09:42:39   #
Steve_m Loc: Southern California
 
jgreco wrote:
OK 2 different camera's same shot same location on tripod. Shot in raw and auto processed with Photoshop CS5. Other than a variation of color, I don't see the difference between the 2 camera's. Am I missing something here. I am sending the pics and info download.
I did notice the same lens on different camera was different in AV, and speed. That may be due to the digic processor, 50D full frame and T5i smaller?


50D has a crop sensor.

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Sep 23, 2014 09:43:32   #
mstuhr Loc: Oregon
 
I like the 50D shot better. Color is sharper.

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Sep 23, 2014 10:11:48   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
Image 1
Date Time Original: 2014:09:23 07:20:04
Exposure Time: 1/100
F Number: f / 4.50
Exposure Program: Aperture priority
ISO Speed Ratings: 100
Metering Mode: Pattern
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Focal Length: 35mm
White Balance: Auto white balance
Make: Canon
Model: Canon EOS 50D

Image 2
Date Time Original: 2014:09:23 08:38:56
Exposure Time: 1/50
F Number: f / 5.60
Exposure Program: Aperture priority
ISO Speed Ratings: 125
Metering Mode: Pattern
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Focal Length: 35mm
White Balance: Manual white balance
Make: Canon
Model: Canon EOS REBEL T5i

Not really apples to apples-
1st shot = at 7:20am, 2nd shot = 9:23am
1st Exposure Time: 1/100, 2nd Exposure Time: 1/50
1st F Number: f / 4.50, F Number: f / 5.60
1st White Balance: Auto white balance, 2nd White Balance: Manual white balance

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Sep 23, 2014 10:17:00   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
jgreco wrote:
... That may be due to the digic processor, 50D full frame and T5i smaller?


Both the Canon EOS 50D and the Canon EOS Rebel T5i have APS-C (Crop) Sensors

Canon EOS 50D http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/eos_slr_camera_systems/eos_digital_slr_cameras/eos_50d
"... It features an APS-C sized 15.1-megapixel CMOS sensor..."

Canon EOS Rebel T5i http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_rebel_t5i_18_55mm_is_stm_lens_kit
"... The incredible image quality and performance starts with an 18.0 Megapixel CMOS (APS-C) sensor..."

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Sep 23, 2014 10:22:30   #
jgreco Loc: Orlando, FL
 
I see the time is wrong and yes they both shoot differently.
I did not notice the t5i w/b is manual so that could account for color shifts. I guess I was looking to see if a crop sensor was better than this modified T5i processor, and that's where I am completely blind. I don't see a sharper crisper picture from the 50D as I thought it would be compared to the T5i? Thanks for pointing out time and W/B, that I can change. Do you think it would make a big difference in the quality of one over the other?

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Sep 23, 2014 10:24:39   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
jgreco wrote:
I see the time is wrong and yes they both shoot differently.
I did not notice the t5i w/b is manual so that could account for color shifts. I guess I was looking to see if a crop sensor was better than this modified T5i processor, and that's where I am completely blind. I don't see a sharper crisper picture from the 50D as I thought it would be compared to the T5i? Thanks for pointing out time and W/B, that I can change. Do you think it would make a big difference in the quality of one over the other?
I see the time is wrong and yes they both shoot di... (show quote)

What's a 'modified T5i processor?' Did you modify it somehow?

Processors evolve and the T5i is newer than the 50D so it's improved.

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Sep 23, 2014 10:25:36   #
jgreco Loc: Orlando, FL
 
Holy crap, I did not know that. I thought the 50D had a full crop sensor and the T5i had the smaller one. So that tells me they are very much the same sensors? Now what makes one a professional type and the other not?

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Sep 23, 2014 10:27:07   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
jgreco wrote:
Holy crap, I did not know that. I thought the 50D had a full crop sensor and the T5i had the smaller one. So that tells me they are very much the same sensors? Now what makes one a professional type and the other not?

The above are Crop Sensor cameras where one is older than the other, sensors included.

As a side; Canon's pro-line includes the 1D, 5D and 6D cameras

This may help http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras

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Sep 23, 2014 10:30:04   #
jgreco Loc: Orlando, FL
 
Local photo shop modified the speed of the processor (over clocking) and tweaked the A/F sensor. Or at least that's what I paid for. That's why I am comparing the 2 camera's for professional review here to see if there is a difference.

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Sep 23, 2014 10:31:28   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
jgreco wrote:
Local photo shop modified the speed of the processor (over clocking) and tweaked the A/F sensor. Or at least that's what I paid for. That's why I am comparing the 2 camera's for professional review here to see if there is a difference.

"Local photo shop modified the speed of the processor (over clocking) and tweaked the A/F sensor."
I'd be curious what that actually means other than installing Magic Lantern Software on it.

On a side, even at stock, you are comparing old technology against new.

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Sep 23, 2014 10:39:39   #
jgreco Loc: Orlando, FL
 
I don't know what Magic lantern is? OK here is another question I purchased the 50D body and 5 batteries w/ charger for 350. Should I keep it as backup or re-sell it now knowing the both camera's are almost the same?

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Sep 23, 2014 10:42:08   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
jgreco wrote:
I don't know what Magic lantern is?


Magic Lantern http://www.magiclantern.fm
What is it?
Magic Lantern is a free software add-on that runs from the SD/CF card and adds a host of new features to Canon EOS cameras that weren't included from the factory by Canon.

Features of Magic Lantern http://www.magiclantern.fm/features.html

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Sep 23, 2014 11:45:38   #
Bill Houghton Loc: New York area
 
Aside from being taken at different times and under different setting. I am not a Cannon users. But to me the T5i seems to have the advantage in this series of shots.

Note I am not nor do I pretend to be a professional photographer. But looking a lot of photos on this site, I have come to the conclusion that it's not the model number on the camera, but more the person clicking the lens that is professional.

Your 50D
Your 50D...

Your T5i
Your T5i...

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