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Sep 17, 2014 08:00:44   #
MOSFET Loc: Bronx
 
I have been a Rebel 4Ti user now since January 2014 and I must tell you that it still amazes me, even after being a 4-year 'veteran' of photography. Still, I am considering a switch to the Nikon D5200 so that I can take advantage of the 24 megapixels of additional details and all of the other tools the D5200 provides.

I thought about the D7200 (whose release date is yet unknown), but thought, just maybe, I might be getting ahead of myself. Bit by bit, day by day, almost every day of the week, I think I am gradually improving my skills and technique without being a 'professional' photographer. So, starting off yesterday, I set the 4Ti to take pictures from the aperture-oriented focus (AV), and was amazed at some of the photos I was producing. The detail is incredible.

The green signal light's rings are very distinct and noticeable here, something I was struggling to achieve for many weeks.
The green signal light's rings are very distinct a...

Focus on the lights yields this photograph.
Focus on the lights yields this photograph....

I believe the D5200's 24 MPs will enable me to really get the details of the moon, but, I'll wait and see about that. This shot was taken without a tripod.
I believe the D5200's 24 MPs will enable me to rea...

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Sep 17, 2014 08:05:39   #
RSpinney Loc: Maine
 
I especially like your second photo. Reducing the exposure on the third photo will enable you to see the larger craters in the moon, but you will probably lose the earth shine side.

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Sep 17, 2014 08:08:48   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
MOSFET wrote:
I have been a Rebel 4Ti user now since January 2014 and I must tell you that it still amazes me, even after being a 4-year 'veteran' of photography. Still, I am considering a switch to the Nikon D5200 so that I can take advantage of the 24 megapixels of additional details and all of the other tools the D5200 provides.

I thought about the D7200 (whose release date is yet unknown), but thought, just maybe, I might be getting ahead of myself. Bit by bit, day by day, almost every day of the week, I think I am gradually improving my skills and technique without being a 'professional' photographer. So, starting off yesterday, I set the 4Ti to take pictures from the aperture-oriented focus (AV), and was amazed at some of the photos I was producing. The detail is incredible.
I have been a Rebel 4Ti user now since January 201... (show quote)


You should also consider the new 7D II. Compatable with whatever lenses you have for the 4ti.

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Sep 17, 2014 10:31:01   #
MOSFET Loc: Bronx
 
dsmeltz wrote:
You should also consider the new 7D II. Compatable with whatever lenses you have for the 4ti.


Thanks DSmeltz for your comments :)

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Sep 17, 2014 22:15:48   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Before making such a major change, you should see if you can rent your target equipment. Look a LensRentals.com or similar. The moon shot will not change until you change your camera settings, not your camera.

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Sep 18, 2014 06:33:38   #
MOSFET Loc: Bronx
 
RSpinney wrote:
I especially like your second photo. Reducing the exposure on the third photo will enable you to see the larger craters in the moon, but you will probably lose the earth shine side.


Thanks RSpinney.

Currently I am exploring the world of the aperture settings, and was working on that this morning as I was crossing 42nd Street, from 7th Avenue to Vanderbilt Avenue, and I had loads of opportunity to experiment, also, with the ISO. I noticed that as the F-stop numbers increased, the amount of light available also increased. This is directly reverse what the ISO numbers indicates. As ISO proceeds from 100 to greater numbers, less and less light is allowed into the camera. So, I am still playing with these two items at the current time.

I have discovered that the moon's face seems to be clearer when the skies are early in the evening, when there is not so much sunlight, but also when there is not so much darkness.

As for my second shot, well, I've had loads of practice. Thanks so much. :)

Here are a few shots I 'played' with this morning.







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Sep 18, 2014 06:38:09   #
MOSFET Loc: Bronx
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Before making such a major change, you should see if you can rent your target equipment. Look a LensRentals.com or similar. The moon shot will not change until you change your camera settings, not your camera.


Thanks CHG_CANON... The rent-a-target is a good idea. But the 24 megapixels CMOS sensor is an intriguing device for capturing increased detail, particularly since my current T4i camera comes with only 18 megapixels. I remember when I was coming up with digital cameras that the lowest number, 4 megapixels, did not really capture all that much detail. The T4i is much better than the HP digital camera (hah! almost barely qualifies for the title!). So the Nikon D5200 sounds very attractive. On the other hand, the Canon 7D Mark II, without a lens, comes in at an $1800 price tag. Ouch! I figure if I'm going to go that way, the Nikon 7D Mark II, with 18mm-300mm lens comes up to about $1750, and enables me to, with a single lens, see details and zoom with one piece instead of several pieces.

So, I appreciate your recommendation, and, chances are, I will follow your recommendation. Thanks again.

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Sep 18, 2014 07:22:48   #
RSpinney Loc: Maine
 
Good morning, MOSFET.

In your comment, it appeared you are playing with ISO and F-stop. As the F-stop increases, the depth of field also increases, but the amount of light allowed through the lens is decreased. The opening size decreases the higher the f-stop.

On the other hand, as ISO increases, the sensitivity to light increases. The higher the ISO, the less light is required for a photograph. BUT, the higher the ISO, the more grainy the photograph.

Normally, F-Stop is played with to increase/decrease the depth of field and then the ISO (or exposure time) is changed to compensate for the change in the amount of light into the camera.

I hope this helps you while playing with your camera. Playing is not only fun, it is helpful in learning the camera.

And, I should have mentioned that I really like the three photos you just posted. Good job!

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Sep 18, 2014 09:09:05   #
MOSFET Loc: Bronx
 
RSpinney wrote:
Good morning, MOSFET.

In your comment, it appeared you are playing with ISO and F-stop. As the F-stop increases, the depth of field also increases, but the amount of light allowed through the lens is decreased. The opening size decreases the higher the f-stop.

On the other hand, as ISO increases, the sensitivity to light increases. The higher the ISO, the less light is required for a photograph. BUT, the higher the ISO, the more grainy the photograph.

Normally, F-Stop is played with to increase/decrease the depth of field and then the ISO (or exposure time) is changed to compensate for the change in the amount of light into the camera.

I hope this helps you while playing with your camera. Playing is not only fun, it is helpful in learning the camera.

And, I should have mentioned that I really like the three photos you just posted. Good job!
Good morning, MOSFET. br br In your comment, it ... (show quote)


Thanks much RSpinney: So now I have an idea how to play the camera properly: FIRST, set the F-Stop, and SECOND, set the ISO. Thanks again for the clues :)

Here is one of my original art pieces that I saved in photographic form.



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Sep 18, 2014 10:14:47   #
thelazya Loc: Wendell, MN
 
I think you like me still have a lot to learn about the functions of your camera. There is no need to trade off a Chevy for a Ford because it has a nicer interior.

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Sep 18, 2014 10:18:33   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
thelazya wrote:
I think you like me still have a lot to learn about the functions of your camera. There is no need to trade off a Chevy for a Ford because it has a nicer interior.


Unless you are single and trying to impress a date.

Of course, I, happily, don't need to worry about that anymore. :D

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Sep 18, 2014 10:33:23   #
MOSFET Loc: Bronx
 
thelazya wrote:
I think you like me still have a lot to learn about the functions of your camera. There is no need to trade off a Chevy for a Ford because it has a nicer interior.


Thanks TheLazya. :) I also understand there appears to be a line drawn between Canon users and Nikon users. I'm not that hard-set into using ONLY Canon cameras. I am interested in results and fine performance, and, where cash allows, I'm willing to buy the equipment (regardless of manufacturer - in this case EITHER Canon OR Nikon) that gets me there. Details are becoming more important to me in terms of the overall appeal of a photograph, so, I'm leaning toward a new Nikon by the end of year.

BUT, in the meantime, I am still experimenting and trying a little-bit-of-this and a little-bit-of-that with my Canon Rebel EOS 4Ti camera, which, by the way, of late, has shown some rather good results :) MOSFET ***

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Sep 18, 2014 10:36:26   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
MOSFET - LensRentals has the D5100 thru D5300 bodies to rent. As mentioned by others, you should continue to work on the basics with your current camera. The prices are rather modest for 4-day rentals on the Nikon bodies although I'd look a week minimum to really move a candid camera body thru the paces. Two of your most recent street / night pictures look to be shooting too slow for hand-holding. Increasing the ISO and / or opening the aperture are needed to get a sharper focus where the shutter speed should be 1 'over' the focal-length of the lens such as 1/100, 1/200, etc.

My comment about the moon was related to both the clouds / haze as well as the bright section being over exposed (almost pure white with no detail). A different camera will not pull more detail from an overexposed moon surface.

You mention the T4i,what lenses are you using? Also, if you'll 'store original' when posting example pictures, we can inspect the EXIF data and provide more specific recommendations based on the technical details captured within the digital image.

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Sep 18, 2014 11:31:03   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
thelazya wrote:
I think you like me still have a lot to learn about the functions of your camera. There is no need to trade off a Chevy for a Ford because it has a nicer interior.


Using your analogy I would go for the Ford certainly not a Chevy or any General Motors products?

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Sep 18, 2014 12:21:08   #
MOSFET Loc: Bronx
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Unless you are single and trying to impress a date.

Of course, I, happily, don't need to worry about that anymore. :D


At 57 years of age, I don't think the ladies are evaluating me on the basis of my camera prowess, although, to be frank with you, one never knows :)

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