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Jun 10, 2014 08:39:31   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Did you know that hidden in every camera there is a crop factor and it is infinitely variable up to a point.

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Jun 10, 2014 08:42:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
joer wrote:
Did you know that hidden in every camera there is a crop factor and it is infinitely variable up to a point.

Goes without saying, which is probably why no one has mentioned it before. :D

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Jun 10, 2014 08:43:29   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
joer wrote:
Did you know that hidden in every camera there is a crop factor and it is infinitely variable up to a point.


Are you referring to the various image ratios offered by some cameras?

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Jun 10, 2014 08:59:31   #
SonyA580 Loc: FL in the winter & MN in the summer
 
I don't know that I would call it a crop factor. Image ratio is maybe a better description.

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Jun 10, 2014 09:06:57   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
joer wrote:
Did you know that hidden in every camera there is a crop factor and it is infinitely variable up to a point.


So, don't leave us hanging at this point... Explain! Please?

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Jun 10, 2014 09:46:37   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
LFingar wrote:
Are you referring to the various image ratios offered by some cameras?


No I'm not. I referring to the ratios that you can achieve by simply cropping.

Using the camera ratios restricts your ability to frame, although there are some benefits depending on the camera.

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Jun 10, 2014 10:00:11   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
joer wrote:
No I'm not. I referring to the ratios that you can achieve by simply cropping.

Using the camera ratios restricts your ability to frame, although there are some benefits depending on the camera.


Your original question was not about the ability to frame, and using different shooting ratios definitely crops the sensor. Cropping the photo itself in PP is not something hidden in the camera, unless there are cameras where cropping can be done in-camera. I have no idea if there are.

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Jun 10, 2014 10:01:49   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Goes without saying, which is probably why no one has mentioned it before. :D


It is worth saying. How often do you hear about image ratios or 1.5x and 1.3x, et cetera as a camera feature.

You can do it yourself and have greater flexibility with a small amount of effort.

The larger your sensor and pixel count the more flexibility there is.

Just as an example; a FF 36MP camera can match just about any sensor for crop factor.

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Jun 10, 2014 10:49:35   #
skiman Loc: Ventura, CA
 
LFingar wrote:
Your original question was not about the ability to frame, and using different shooting ratios definitely crops the sensor. Cropping the photo itself in PP is not something hidden in the camera, unless there are cameras where cropping can be done in-camera. I have no idea if there are.

The D7100 can crop in camera and also has a 1.3 crop mode you can set for faster bursts (at the lower cropped resolution of course).

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Jun 10, 2014 10:56:34   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
skiman wrote:
The D7100 can crop in camera and also has a 1.3 crop mode you can set for faster bursts (at the lower cropped resolution of course).


Yes it provides 1 additional shot per second. Not sure if that is significant in actual shooting.

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Jun 10, 2014 11:02:23   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
LFingar wrote:
.... unless there are cameras where cropping can be done in-camera. I have no idea if there are.


That sounds like a feature some cameras have, I think it's called Digital Zoom. I've had cameras that can do that, but it would be much easier to do that on the computer (where I can really see what I'm doing) than in-camera.

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Jun 10, 2014 11:04:29   #
skiman Loc: Ventura, CA
 
joer wrote:
Yes it provides 1 additional shot per second. Not sure if that is significant in actual shooting.

I just did a track meet and it does make the difference in high jump, long jump, and crossing the finish line. I wish I had a D4s with 12fps but 6.5k is not in my budget.

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Jun 10, 2014 11:15:42   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
skiman wrote:
I just did a track meet and it does make the difference in high jump, long jump, and crossing the finish line. I wish I had a D4s with 12fps but 6.5k is not in my budget.


There are less expensive cameras with electronic shutters that can match the pro cameras with respect fps.

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Jun 10, 2014 18:47:28   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
joer wrote:
It is worth saying. How often do you hear about image ratios or 1.5x and 1.3x, et cetera .


I have never heard of those referred to as image ratios, but as crop factors.
Are you referring to aspect ratios?
Either way, my camera only shots in one size fits all! :lol:
It can't be changed. ;-)
SS

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Jun 10, 2014 18:54:16   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
SharpShooter wrote:
I have never heard of those referred to as image ratios, but as crop factors.
Are you referring to aspect ratios?
Either way, my camera only shots in one size fits all! :lol:
It can't be changed. ;-)
SS


Aspect ratios is the correct term. Couldn't think of it at the time.

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