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Jun 5, 2014 12:26:33   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
I just received my weekly tips from Ultimate Photo guide. The topic was on turning photos to B&W. The lesson was SO EASY to do in Lightroom. I don't know how to send the link but if you ever tried to do this and had mediocre results try and see if you can find the post.

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Jun 5, 2014 12:29:14   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
they may look good on their own, but never try and compare them to a b&w film print. you'll be unhappy!

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Jun 5, 2014 17:03:05   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
tita1948 wrote:
I just received my weekly tips from Ultimate Photo guide. The topic was on turning photos to B&W. The lesson was SO EASY to do in Lightroom. I don't know how to send the link but if you ever tried to do this and had mediocre results try and see if you can find the post.


I'm not familiar with your source but I do a lot of my conversion to B&W in Lightroom. Only when that fails do I use Silver Efex, because the LR usually produces less noise in the conversion process than the plugins do. If you use the HSL/color sliders instead of the presets or the Basic section for most of your adjustments, you have a lot more control than you would expect. It is easy, and it gets good results.

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Jun 5, 2014 19:19:51   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
tita1948 wrote:
I just received my weekly tips from Ultimate Photo guide. The topic was on turning photos to B&W. The lesson was SO EASY to do in Lightroom. I don't know how to send the link but if you ever tried to do this and had mediocre results try and see if you can find the post.


Tita, the secret to good B&W, is to start with the right foto, not the right PP program.
There are as many bad B&W pics with film, as there are with digital! :lol:
But true, a bad conversion is still just that, a bad conversion.
And bad photography is still just that, bad photography, in color or monochrome! ;-)
SS

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Jun 5, 2014 19:35:57   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Tita, the secret to good B&W, is to start with the right foto, not the right PP program.
There are as many bad B&W pics with film, as there are with digital! :lol:
But true, a bad conversion is still just that, a bad conversion.
And bad photography is still just that, bad photography, in color or monochrome! ;-)
SS


That is so true. I was hoping this information would help newbies and those of us without too much experience to accomplish this without too much hassle.

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Jun 5, 2014 19:52:36   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
tita1948 wrote:
That is so true. I was hoping this information would help newbies and those of us without too much experience to accomplish this without too much hassle.


Tita, I understand, and what I said helped no one but those that are good at B&W. And for that I apologize.
If someone could create a link to your source it would surely be useful.
Scott Kelby has a method using LR that works pretty well. He calls it something like, "using the triangles of death".
Because B&W is all about creating contrast, since there is only black, white and what's in between.
After changing to B&W, he activates the triangles controlling the brightness in the histogram, and pulls it till large areas start to turn red, then backs off slightly. Then does the same with the black slider till areas turn blue, then backs off.
This gives maximum blacks and whites, with only specular areas going to blowout.
The mid-tones can then be adjusted for contrast using the color sliders.
This method seems to work quite well, if you start with a contrasty shot.
Tita, it's not what you were looking for, but it may help others that don't have expensive plug-ins. ;-)
SS

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Jun 8, 2014 22:18:55   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Tita, I understand, and what I said helped no one but those that are good at B&W. And for that I apologize.
If someone could create a link to your source it would surely be useful.
Scott Kelby has a method using LR that works pretty well. He calls it something like, "using the triangles of death".
Because B&W is all about creating contrast, since there is only black, white and what's in between.
After changing to B&W, he activates the triangles controlling the brightness in the histogram, and pulls it till large areas start to turn red, then backs off slightly. Then does the same with the black slider till areas turn blue, then backs off.
This gives maximum blacks and whites, with only specular areas going to blowout.
The mid-tones can then be adjusted for contrast using the color sliders.
This method seems to work quite well, if you start with a contrasty shot.
Tita, it's not what you were looking for, but it may help others that don't have expensive plug-ins. ;-)
SS
Tita, I understand, and what I said helped no one ... (show quote)

Hummm I'll have to check that out. I love Scott Kelby. He explains in simple language and he's funny.
Thanks for the idea.

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Jun 8, 2014 23:13:25   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
tita1948 wrote:
I just received my weekly tips from Ultimate Photo guide. The topic was on turning photos to B&W. The lesson was SO EASY to do in Lightroom. I don't know how to send the link but if you ever tried to do this and had mediocre results try and see if you can find the post.


Instead of trying to discussing a technique that no one knows what it is, why not ask how to post the link?

The skills required to process a photo are much much harder than posting a link.
If you can't even post a link, how do you ever hope to process a photo effectively?
Saying "I don't know how to post a link but if you want to google it" is just lazy Tita.

Open your page that you want to link.
Highlight the address of that page. Press CTRL-C
Post that in a reply in this thread.
Then that way, people here will be able to advise you if it is a good way to process monos or if it is leading you up the path.

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Jun 9, 2014 11:27:44   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 
lighthouse wrote:
Instead of trying to discussing a technique that no one knows what it is, why not ask how to post the link?

The skills required to process a photo are much much harder than posting a link.
If you can't even post a link, how do you ever hope to process a photo effectively?
Saying "I don't know how to post a link but if you want to google it" is just lazy Tita.

Open your page that you want to link.
Highlight the address of that page. Press CTRL-C
Post that in a reply in this thread.
Then that way, people here will be able to advise you if it is a good way to process monos or if it is leading you up the path.
Instead of trying to discussing a technique that n... (show quote)


Well that's a little harsh. Just because I didn't know how post a link doesn't make me "lazy". Thank you for letting me know how to do it.

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Jun 20, 2014 12:59:42   #
Searcher Loc: Kent, England
 
tita1948 wrote:
I just received my weekly tips from Ultimate Photo guide. The topic was on turning photos to B&W. The lesson was SO EASY to do in Lightroom. I don't know how to send the link but if you ever tried to do this and had mediocre results try and see if you can find the post.


I think this is the link:

http://www.ultimatephotoguide.com/is-black-and-white-still-important/

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Jun 20, 2014 22:33:42   #
tita1948 Loc: North Idaho
 


Thank you for posting this. And thank you for your help today.

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