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May 14, 2014 20:00:07   #
Nanaclz Loc: Mobile, Al.
 
I had a Nikon d300s. Was stolen.
Now have a Sony a77. Have a 90mm/2.8 DI Tamron, 70-200mm/2.8 DI Tamron & 16-50mm/2.8 SSM sony lens.
Wanted to get another Nikon and was trying to wait for D300s upgrade which is rumored may be D9300. But now I don't know whether to do that or not. The Nikon Rep. Told our local camera store that they have announced all the new cameras that will be coming out for 2014. So now I'm in a quandary. Have talked to my local camera store about the D7100 & the D610. I feel like my head is going to explode. Can anyone help this rattled person.

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May 14, 2014 20:01:57   #
Neubee Loc: Wisconsin
 
why not stick with the Sony???

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May 14, 2014 20:05:19   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
What doesn't the Sony a77 have that makes you in too big a hurry to wait for the D9300?
What does/will the D300s upgrade have that the Sony doesn't have?

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May 14, 2014 21:23:38   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Nana, welcome to the Hog.
If you just let your head explode, then all the pressure will be gone, and you will be able to think clearly again!! :lol:
Actually, if you had a Canon, you wouldn't even be going through all of this misery!!!! ;-)
SS

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May 14, 2014 21:27:54   #
Nanaclz Loc: Mobile, Al.
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Nana, welcome to the Hog.
If you just let your head explode, then all the pressure will be gone, and you will be able to think clearly again!! :lol:
Actually, if you had a Canon, you wouldn't even be going through all of this misery!!!! ;-)
SS


That is actually true. Being one who loves to write as well I can actually picture that. 😄 Ye Old Canon vs Nikon Debate.
For arguments sake what in Canon is comparable to the cameras I am referencing 😳

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May 14, 2014 21:40:08   #
nicksr1125 Loc: Mesa, AZ
 
I agree with Neubee. Why not stick with the Sony. I purchased a used A850 from B&H because I wanted an FX sensor. Along with that body I purchased a Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 & 70-200 f/2.8. I doubt very seriously if you put the same photograph done with a Canon, Nikon, & Sony, anybody could tell the difference. A lot of the Canon, Nikon bit is snob appeal. I expect to catch a lot of flack over that last statement.

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May 14, 2014 22:02:47   #
Nanaclz Loc: Mobile, Al.
 
nicksr1125 wrote:
I agree with Neubee. Why not stick with the Sony. I purchased a used A850 from B&H because I wanted an FX sensor. Along with that body I purchased a Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 & 70-200 f/2.8. I doubt very seriously if you put the same photograph done with a Canon, Nikon, & Sony, anybody could tell the difference. A lot of the Canon, Nikon bit is snob appeal. I expect to catch a lot of flack over that last statement.


I have not gotten used to the EVF view finder over the OVF. It turns off when your not looking through it and comes back on when you look through it again. The camera hesitates momentarily when first turned on. And in the end this may not really matter. Also the translucent mirror. Suppose a matter of getting used to it after using Nikon for 5 years.

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May 14, 2014 22:20:29   #
nicksr1125 Loc: Mesa, AZ
 
Agreed. I've used Minolta & Sony for the last 25 years or so. Haven't tried one of the models with an electronic view finder. Canon had a translucent mirror camera on the market many moons ago called Pellix. It made the camera a lot quieter because there was no mirror slap. It never caught on because of the amount of light reflected up to the viewfinder. Seems to be it killed about 2 stops.

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May 14, 2014 22:39:54   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
nicksr1125 wrote:
...... I doubt very seriously if you put the same photograph done with a Canon, Nikon, & Sony, anybody could tell the difference. .......


Actually I think quite a few people could tell which one was taken with a Canon for a particular type of photo. eg Black cat in a coalmine.
I like to think that I may even be able to tell you which one was the Canon shot.
It would be interesting if sometime we could do this test.
Take a shot with a Canon and a Nikon, resize them all to 2000x1000, strip out the exif data and download the originals and see how people go.

nicksr1125 wrote:
...... A lot of the Canon, Nikon bit is snob appeal. I expect to catch a lot of flack over that last statement.

You won't get an argument from me, but maybe not snob appeal, I don't think either of them has more prestige than the other, maybe more like justifying their own decision to buy whatever brand they have.

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May 14, 2014 22:57:02   #
cntry Loc: Colorado
 
Nanaclz wrote:
I have not gotten used to the EVF view finder over the OVF. It turns off when your not looking through it and comes back on when you look through it again. The camera hesitates momentarily when first turned on. And in the end this may not really matter. Also the translucent mirror. Suppose a matter of getting used to it after using Nikon for 5 years.


Turn 'eye start' off, then the EVF will stay on all the time.

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May 14, 2014 22:57:48   #
Nanaclz Loc: Mobile, Al.
 
lighthouse wrote:
You won't get an argument from me, but maybe not snob appeal, I don't think either of them has more prestige than the other, maybe more like justifying their own decision to buy whatever brand they have.


I agree in that I believe there are good cameras in most brands. At the end of the day it is the eye and perception of what is being seen by the photographer and how that visual information is presented 😍

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May 14, 2014 23:08:46   #
Nanaclz Loc: Mobile, Al.
 
cntry wrote:
Turn 'eye start' off, then the EVF will stay on all the time.


That is good to know. Did not know that could be done. Thank you. I will try that tomorrow. As long as the skies are clear.

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May 14, 2014 23:59:12   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
Nanaclz wrote:
SharpShooter wrote:
Nana, welcome to the Hog.
If you just let your head explode, then all the pressure will be gone, and you will be able to think clearly again!! :lol:
Actually, if you had a Canon, you wouldn't even be going through all of this misery!!!! ;-)
SS

That is actually true. Being one who loves to write as well I can actually picture that. 😄 Ye Old Canon vs Nikon Debate.
For arguments sake what in Canon is comparable to the cameras I am referencing 😳
quote=SharpShooter Nana, welcome to the Hog. br ... (show quote)

There is absolutely nothing true to the idea that having a Canon would avoid your problem. That's just Sharpshooter the Canon fangirl talking. :-D

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May 15, 2014 00:02:39   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
Nanaclz wrote:
I have not gotten used to the EVF view finder over the OVF. It turns off when your not looking through it and comes back on when you look through it again. The camera hesitates momentarily when first turned on. And in the end this may not really matter. Also the translucent mirror. Suppose a matter of getting used to it after using Nikon for 5 years.

I spent over an hour in a camera store playing with several mirrorless cameras (Sony, Olympus, and Fuji). I didn't like any of them. Hopefully in the next couple of years they get even smoother.

Now, when anyone asks about mirrorless, my only suggestion is that they make sure they are comfortable with the EVF.

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May 15, 2014 00:10:27   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
nicksr1125 wrote:
I doubt very seriously if you put the same photograph done with a Canon, Nikon, & Sony, anybody could tell the difference.
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A lot of the Canon, Nikon bit is snob appeal. I expect to catch a lot of flack over that last statement.

I agree, nobody would be able to tell the difference. But that's not really the right test. The better question is whether a particular photographer is equally effective when shooting a variety of different situations, considering both hits and misses.

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I agree there may be a bit of snob appeal when someone insists that one brand is significantly better than another brand.

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I have one issue with Sony: it is not clear that they know where they are going, as they are now on their third lens mount format in less than 10 years. They also keep changing their mind on sensor-based or lens-based image stabilization.

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