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Apr 6, 2014 21:53:26   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
Mike Price wrote:
That is a decision based totally on my lack of knowledge and understanding :) :) :) I am listening :)


I am not saying it is a bad lens, or that it is the wrong choice.
Convenience can be a great reason to buy a certain lens, especially if you think you will be going places that you only want to take one lens and leave the rest at home.

But what gap does it fill?
I don't see one. Unless your 18-55 is crap, and you didn't say that it was.
And if you do really want to replace that 18-55 I believe there are some very good options if you don't stretch out the range too far.
I have heard good things said about the Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM | C and their 18-35 F/1.8 as well.
http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/sigma-17-70mm-f2-8-4-os-hsm

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Apr 6, 2014 22:01:41   #
Mike Price
 
Those are some impressive improvements over the kit lens and really provides me with a greater range of versatility than I have now. Thanks for the help, it kept me from hurrying into a lens and until my 20D gives up the ghost, I figure it is enough for me at this time. Thanks for taking the time. I appreciate it :)

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Apr 7, 2014 01:09:30   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Mike Price wrote:
I have read and read and read reviews, specifications on SLRs and even though my 20D is not a full frame and does not have video which I don't care about or would use it. I know, I am a product of an analog world I grew up in and very tradition when it comes to just taking photos even some action shots frame at a time.

I don't want to bore everyone with what I don't know nor with the little I do know. So let me express where I find myself at this point with as few words as possible. I get great pictures with my 20D. Yes, I know it is not in production anymore and if it quits I might be up the creek. Now that said, I just can't see spending more money for a new upgraded body of a later model and most I can afford are not a full metal body and then lenses to match.

Now I might be all wet (been that before) but I am thinking of getting a few better lenses that I can use on my 20D and continue with my present camera. Tell me if my thinking is not sound or way off or just totally crazy. There was so many reviews I read and so much information that when I finished I did not see much advantage unless I spent big buck for a new body and lenses to match the expensive upgrade. Counsel me if you would, I will just sit back and read all your comments for next few days and maybe they will help me clear my mind.
I have read and read and read reviews, specificati... (show quote)

You can still get great shots with your 20D. Its mostly about the eye behind the viewfinder followed by the glass. Having said that, if you already get great results, a new body can improve upon them. The 20D is very very long in the tooth. Newer bodies have far better sensors, much higher resolution, are capable of much better low light results with less noise, have improved metering and a host of other features and improvements. In the end though, a 20D in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing will yield better results then a new body in the hands of someone who is clueless.

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Apr 7, 2014 01:52:24   #
lighthouse Loc: No Fixed Abode
 
mwsilvers wrote:
You can still get great shots with your 20D. Its mostly about the eye behind the viewfinder followed by the glass. Having said that, if you already get great results, a new body can improve upon them. The 20D is very very long in the tooth. Newer bodies have far better sensors, much higher resolution, are capable of much better low light results with less noise, have improved metering and a host of other features and improvements. In the end though, a 20D in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing will yield better results then a new body in the hands of someone who is clueless.
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I was going to suggest that the OP look at another newer obsolete model in the 50D for improved performance but he seemed to want to focus (:-)) on the lens line and he does also have a battery pack for the 20D which probably wouldn't fit the 50D, so I left it alone.

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Apr 7, 2014 03:29:41   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
Swamp Gator wrote:
Well you will never be sorry investing in good quality lenses.
It's better to put a $1,500 lens on a $100 camera then to put a $100 lens on a $1,500 camera.

I would prefer to spend $500-800 on the camera and $1100-800 on the lens.

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Apr 7, 2014 06:52:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Mike Price wrote:
Now I might be all wet (been that before) but I am thinking of getting a few better lenses that I can use on my 20D and continue with my present camera.

Good idea. Decide on a focal length and then see what's available. You can pay $2,500 or $800 for a certain length, but you might not notice the difference between them in your pictures. Buying the most expensive lens available is not always the best course to follow.

When you make a decision about what you want, come back for opinions on that lens.

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Apr 7, 2014 06:58:19   #
wpbJoe Loc: West Palm Beach, Fl
 
It's the job of advertising to get you to buy 'shit' (excuse me) you really don't need.....getting motivated to get out and use the very good equiptment you already own, in my opinion, is the thing to do.

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Apr 7, 2014 07:07:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
wpbJoe wrote:
It's the job of advertising to get you to buy 'shit' (excuse me) you really don't need.....getting motivated to get out and use the very good equipment you already own, in my opinion, is the thing to do.

Actually, UHH has done an excellent job of separating me from my money and filling camera bags with stuff "that I really need." :D

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Apr 7, 2014 07:36:19   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
From what I know of it the 18-135 is a nice lens and it covers a very useful range of focal lengths. Fewer times that you will have to change lenses means more convenience and fewer missed shots. Being newer it will also have superior features when compared to your older 18-55. Image stabilization, for example. If it is within the range where you normally shoot then I would recommend getting the lens before you go looking for a new body. The new lens will work perfectly well on a newer body if you go that route at some point. You haven't mentioned it, but if you have any thoughts of going to a full frame body then, in the Canon line of lenses, only EF designated lenses, not EF-S, can be used.

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Apr 7, 2014 08:08:55   #
coyotecall Loc: New Mexico
 
I had the 100-300 IS lens and was never happy with the "soft focus" outcomes. I "went nuts" and sold it and bought the 70-200 non-IS USM L telephoto. It was a very nice up-grade. I paired it with a Canon 2x "extender and I am also very happy with the outcome. Total expenses= $1000 +/-. Worth it for the much better outcome for my 450D. No IS but I'm learning to shoot on a tripod every time if I want "feather definition" on a bird for example.
Mike Price wrote:
I have read and read and read reviews, specifications on SLRs and even though my 20D is not a full frame and does not have video which I don't care about or would use it. I know, I am a product of an analog world I grew up in and very tradition when it comes to just taking photos even some action shots frame at a time.

I don't want to bore everyone with what I don't know nor with the little I do know. So let me express where I find myself at this point with as few words as possible. I get great pictures with my 20D. Yes, I know it is not in production anymore and if it quits I might be up the creek. Now that said, I just can't see spending more money for a new upgraded body of a later model and most I can afford are not a full metal body and then lenses to match.

Now I might be all wet (been that before) but I am thinking of getting a few better lenses that I can use on my 20D and continue with my present camera. Tell me if my thinking is not sound or way off or just totally crazy. There was so many reviews I read and so much information that when I finished I did not see much advantage unless I spent big buck for a new body and lenses to match the expensive upgrade. Counsel me if you would, I will just sit back and read all your comments for next few days and maybe they will help me clear my mind.
I have read and read and read reviews, specificati... (show quote)

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Apr 7, 2014 08:10:06   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Mike Price wrote:
I have read and read and read reviews, specifications on SLRs and even though my 20D is not a full frame and does not have video which I don't care about or would use it. I know, I am a product of an analog world I grew up in and very tradition when it comes to just taking photos even some action shots frame at a time.

I don't want to bore everyone with what I don't know nor with the little I do know. So let me express where I find myself at this point with as few words as possible. I get great pictures with my 20D. Yes, I know it is not in production anymore and if it quits I might be up the creek. Now that said, I just can't see spending more money for a new upgraded body of a later model and most I can afford are not a full metal body and then lenses to match.

Now I might be all wet (been that before) but I am thinking of getting a few better lenses that I can use on my 20D and continue with my present camera. Tell me if my thinking is not sound or way off or just totally crazy. There was so many reviews I read and so much information that when I finished I did not see much advantage unless I spent big buck for a new body and lenses to match the expensive upgrade. Counsel me if you would, I will just sit back and read all your comments for next few days and maybe they will help me clear my mind.
I have read and read and read reviews, specificati... (show quote)


Sound thinking. The 20D is an excellent camera. Anything lacking can be corrected in post processing.

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Apr 7, 2014 08:16:05   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
A lens you might want to consider is the Sigma 18-35 1.8 Art lens. It can work in place of several prime lenses due to the 1.8 throughout the whole range.

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Apr 7, 2014 08:30:33   #
hofmanr
 
Leica
600mm
great lense
I believe that I'm going to purchase one
I have been reading about it for some time. Now the problem is finding the right price. There are a lot of bells and whistles that drive the price up. I think there is a base price of about $850

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Apr 7, 2014 09:37:10   #
dynaquest1 Loc: Austin, Texas
 
I'd say keep the 20D body and invest in lenses...for now. I've had an SLR for 43 years. Had the first for 16 years, the second for 13 years. Film camera technology rarely changed. But since 2000, when I switched to digital I've owned 2 high-end point and shoots and about 10 SLR's. Once I worked my way up to a D700 full frame about 2 years ago, the "madness" has stopped. Since I always buy used and sell used, I have relatively little invested in this D700 body. If you are happy with the 20D, like I am with the D700, keep it until you are no longer happy - then upgrade. Buy your lenses in excellent USED condition so when you need to sell them you will get most of your money back.

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Apr 7, 2014 09:45:25   #
JohnK
 
I might invest in lenses but not so much that if the 20D gives up the ghost you can't replace it. I had a 20D but it started acting up. Now have a 7D. My old 20D kept giving errors, different ones that didn't go away no matter what I tried. Might check you shutter to see how many actuations it has...

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