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Mar 22, 2014 13:36:27   #
Mary51 Loc: Carneys Point, NJ
 
I'm replacing my Nikon AF-S 55-200mm 4.5 -5.6 G ED VR lens with either the AF-S 70 - 200mm f2.8 VR or VRII lens. I own a d200 body with 30,000 shutter releases, so I figure it's good for another 5-10 years of photos, and I'm in NO WAY interested in video. The reviews of the two lenses that I've read justify the doubled price of the VRII by the improved close-up focus the VRII can deliver, the 50% distortion reduction, and the fact that the VR capability is so good that a hand-held photo shot at ss 1/8 sec. is tripod sharp.

I can get the VR in nearly new condition for around 1200 or a very good VRII from Amazon or B&H for 2050.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

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Mar 22, 2014 13:47:27   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
Mary51 wrote:
I'm replacing my Nikon AF-S 55-200mm 4.5 -5.6 G ED VR lens with either the AF-S 70 - 200mm f2.8 VR or VRII lens. I own a d200 body with 30,000 shutter releases, so I figure it's good for another 5-10 years of photos, and I'm in NO WAY interested in video. The reviews of the two lenses that I've read justify the doubled price of the VRII by the improved close-up focus the VRII can deliver, the 50% distortion reduction, and the fact that the VR capability is so good that a hand-held photo shot at ss 1/8 sec. is tripod sharp.

I can get the VR in nearly new condition for around 1200 or a very good VRII from Amazon or B&H for 2050.



Your thoughts would be appreciated.
I'm replacing my Nikon AF-S 55-200mm 4.5 -5.6 G ED... (show quote)


If I had the money, I'd get the VR II. It's an investment, and if you didn't buy it, you'd probably be agonizing later.
Also, I prefer to buy from Amazon; mainly because I have Amazon Prime, because I can usually get free shipping and often, no state sales tax if the vendor is outside NY. I know most vendors in NJ don't charge me tax to ship to NY. No shipping and no tax can get that lens for a flat $2050.

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Mar 22, 2014 13:50:39   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Mary51 wrote:
...and the fact that the VR capability is so good that a hand-held photo shot at ss 1/8 sec. is tripod sharp.
Good luck with that! VR is a godsend but there are limits.

Mary51 wrote:
I can get the VR in nearly new condition for around 1200 or a very good VRII from Amazon or B&H for 2050.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

I have both at work and really not noticed that much of a difference.
It would depend on what you are shooting.
What kinds of things are you shooting?

Both are exceptional lenses!!!

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Mar 22, 2014 13:57:24   #
Snappin053 Loc: Southern Vermont
 
Go with the VR, it's a masterpiece. Think about an FX also, it will make it shine.

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Mar 22, 2014 17:22:44   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Mary51 wrote:
I'm replacing my Nikon AF-S 55-200mm 4.5 -5.6 G ED VR lens with either the AF-S 70 - 200mm f2.8 VR or VRII lens. I own a d200 body with 30,000 shutter releases, so I figure it's good for another 5-10 years of photos, and I'm in NO WAY interested in video. The reviews of the two lenses that I've read justify the doubled price of the VRII by the improved close-up focus the VRII can deliver, the 50% distortion reduction, and the fact that the VR capability is so good that a hand-held photo shot at ss 1/8 sec. is tripod sharp.

I can get the VR in nearly new condition for around 1200 or a very good VRII from Amazon or B&H for 2050.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
I'm replacing my Nikon AF-S 55-200mm 4.5 -5.6 G ED... (show quote)


Mary, a big welcome to the Hog.
You probably dont want to hear what I'll advise, and I'm sure I'll get some crap for it. I would replace the camera with a current model and just use the lens you have untill which time you can afford to replace it. If I remember the d200 is only about 10mp. That is less than half of today's cameras. No matter how good it was in it's day, the camera will make a huge IQ difference over the lens. The d200 will always be as good as it was, but just can't possibly produce the results of a modern camera. The tech is just not there.
Mary, explore the thought, but it's just my two cents. ;-)
SS

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Mar 22, 2014 17:29:03   #
Moles Loc: South Carolina
 
Welcome, and you will find either the 70-200's a wonder compared to the 55-200. I have owned both lenses, and I like the VRII better, not because of the VRII, but that it's smaller and lighter. I do mostly sports shooting at high shutter speeds, so whether it has VR at all matters little to me. If you shoot hand-held at slow shutter speeds, maybe the VRII is a better. Either way, you can't go wrong. I have seen 70-200's so heavily used, most of the paint was worn off, and still going strong!
bet.quote=Mary51]I'm replacing my Nikon AF-S 55-200mm 4.5 -5.6 G ED VR lens with either the AF-S 70 - 200mm f2.8 VR or VRII lens. I own a d200 body with 30,000 shutter releases, so I figure it's good for another 5-10 years of photos, and I'm in NO WAY interested in video. The reviews of the two lenses that I've read justify the doubled price of the VRII by the improved close-up focus the VRII can deliver, the 50% distortion reduction, and the fact that the VR capability is so good that a hand-held photo shot at ss 1/8 sec. is tripod sharp.

I can get the VR in nearly new condition for around 1200 or a very good VRII from Amazon or B&H for 2050.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.[/quote]

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Mar 22, 2014 20:46:04   #
Mary51 Loc: Carneys Point, NJ
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
I have both at work and really not noticed that much of a difference.
It would depend on what you are shooting.
What kinds of things are you shooting?

Both are exceptional lenses!!!


I'm going to Ireland in May and I'll be shooting taverns, castles, cityscapes, seascapes, landscapes, lighthouses, and portraits. For low light and portraits I really love my fixed focal 50mm Nikon f1.8. Here are some sunny, outdoor shots taken with the 50mm.


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Mar 22, 2014 20:51:08   #
Mary51 Loc: Carneys Point, NJ
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Mary, a big welcome to the Hog.
You probably dont want to hear what I'll advise, and I'm sure I'll get some crap for it. I would replace the camera with a current model and just use the lens you have untill which time you can afford to replace it. If I remember the d200 is only about 10mp. That is less than half of today's cameras. No matter how good it was in it's day, the camera will make a huge IQ difference over the lens. The d200 will always be as good as it was, but just can't possibly produce the results of a modern camera. The tech is just not there.
Mary, explore the thought, but it's just my two cents. ;-)
SS
Mary, a big welcome to the Hog. br You probably d... (show quote)


I'm planning on upgrading to a full frame sensor Nikon in the near future, but for this trip it will have to be the old d200. Maybe I can rent the better body.

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Mar 22, 2014 20:56:29   #
Mary51 Loc: Carneys Point, NJ
 
Thanks for the advice. I went with the VR for $1200 and am checking into renting a newer body.

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Mar 23, 2014 07:09:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Indi wrote:
If I had the money, I'd get the VR II. It's an investment, and if you didn't buy it, you'd probably be agonizing later.

Right. If you're going to spend that much money for a lens, why not get the better of the two? If you don't, you'll always regret it.

Eventually, you'll get to hate that lens, and you'll stop using it. You'll put it on ebay and sell it for just a few dollars. By then, the price of the VRII will be much higher, or there will be a VRIII. You'll wind up getting a second job or working overtime to get the $4,200 for the VRIII.

Get the VRII and save yourself the misery of trying to save money. :D

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Mar 23, 2014 09:02:17   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
I would call Nikon and ask what the difference is between the VR and VR11 then decide.
Mary51 wrote:
I'm replacing my Nikon AF-S 55-200mm 4.5 -5.6 G ED VR lens with either the AF-S 70 - 200mm f2.8 VR or VRII lens. I own a d200 body with 30,000 shutter releases, so I figure it's good for another 5-10 years of photos, and I'm in NO WAY interested in video. The reviews of the two lenses that I've read justify the doubled price of the VRII by the improved close-up focus the VRII can deliver, the 50% distortion reduction, and the fact that the VR capability is so good that a hand-held photo shot at ss 1/8 sec. is tripod sharp.

I can get the VR in nearly new condition for around 1200 or a very good VRII from Amazon or B&H for 2050.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.
I'm replacing my Nikon AF-S 55-200mm 4.5 -5.6 G ED... (show quote)

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Mar 23, 2014 09:22:08   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
sueyeisert wrote:
I would call Nikon and ask what the difference is between the VR and VR11 then decide.

There's a lot to read about them here.

http://www.google.com/search?q=nikon+70-200mm+VR+vs+VRII&oq=nikon+70-200mm+VR+vs+VRII&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.11688j0j4&sourceid=chrome&espv=2&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

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Mar 23, 2014 10:42:37   #
346pak Loc: Texas
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Mary, a big welcome to the Hog.
You probably dont want to hear what I'll advise, and I'm sure I'll get some crap for it. I would replace the camera with a current model and just use the lens you have untill which time you can afford to replace it. If I remember the d200 is only about 10mp. That is less than half of today's cameras. No matter how good it was in it's day, the camera will make a huge IQ difference over the lens. The d200 will always be as good as it was, but just can't possibly produce the results of a modern camera. The tech is just not there.
Mary, explore the thought, but it's just my two cents. ;-)
SS
Mary, a big welcome to the Hog. br You probably d... (show quote)


I own a D200 and a D600. The D200 is a very capable camera and while it doesn't have all the pixels or bells and whistles of a newer full frame, I have taken MANY award winning shots with that 10mp camera. Everyone's situation is different and while many of us spend all our waking moments and extra cash on our hobby, others may not have that desire. If the D200 fits your needs why not indulge in a new lens? The lens WILL make a difference in the end result. My .02

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Mar 23, 2014 11:44:50   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
SharpShooter wrote:
You probably dont want to hear what I'll advise, and I'm sure I'll get some crap for it.


At least you got that part right, SS. :D

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Mar 23, 2014 11:53:38   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Right. If you're going to spend that much money for a lens, why not get the better of the two? If you don't, you'll always regret it.

Eventually, you'll get to hate that lens, and you'll stop using it. You'll put it on ebay and sell it for just a few dollars. By then, the price of the VRII will be much higher, or there will be a VRIII. You'll wind up getting a second job or working overtime to get the $4,200 for the VRIII.

Get the VRII and save yourself the misery of trying to save money. :D
Right. If you're going to spend that much money f... (show quote)


Jerry, this is a case where I'm not sure how tongue-in-cheek your response was. Some of cannot do all the upgrades we want. In this example, I would have to save 24,000 beer cans for the VR. The VRII would take 41,000 beer cans and that's a difference of 2125 gallons! :shock:

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