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Jan 5, 2012 10:28:20   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
Sherrie wrote:
Number 2 has my vote too... I think the first one is a little busy for me. I do like the color of the clothes but just seems like too much in the picture


Thank you for your comments. I do feel that the second is too busy, but the more I think about it that basement is too busy. :lol:

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Jan 5, 2012 10:29:38   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
MarkDG wrote:
Country's Mama wrote:
rocco_7155 wrote:
As far as composition goes, I gotta go with #2.
The leading line is pleasing. The color alternations keep your eye moving and the cop and perspective fill the frame and cut the viewer's field in a complimentary way.


Thank you for your comments. That was my favorite also.
Do you think the first one is too busy? Too much in the background? What I liked about that one was the way the light looked on the clothes.


If you're already in PhotoShop, just blur the background in #1 and see how that works. I really like #2, I think the composition is right on, and the colors keep you interested. Nice job!
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Thank you I will try blurring the background some more.

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Jan 5, 2012 10:30:23   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
photogirl wrote:
I agree with you that the light on the clothes is interesting. It might help to use selective coloring on this. Turn the background into black and white and darkening it a bit accentuating the bright colors of the clothes.


Thank you for commenting. I will give that a try also.

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Jan 5, 2012 10:35:37   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
Cornishpete wrote:
Your first image gives me great comfort as I have an old farm-cottage type house built in the '20, with a basement festooned in cables, pipes, ductwork, all of which I sometimes despair of. Heck there are even pipes that seem to start nowhere and go nowhere (from an abandoned well I guess) So Mama, I am thinking we can both live comfortably without the benefits of fully finished, fitted carpeted, Martha Stewart designed basements and thank you for sharing.
The second image is of course of a very different style and like the others would get my vote. One thing that doesn't quite work though is that it is the second, navy colored jacket that is in focus whilst the eyecatching bright yellow one in the foreground is not. I realise that the very narrow depth of field from being shot at f3.5 has caused this but am wondering if the shot might have been more effective if you had focussed your camera on the yellow coat and just accepted that all the others beyond it were going to be blurred anyway.
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Thank you, I love my old farm house. This one was built in 1840 and we are the second owners. If you look close you can see that the beams were cut in a reticulating saw mill. The duct work comes and goes. The big white duct is from the wood furnace my husband has rigged on our basement patio. It is quite the heating plant, but he has it on a steel pallet ( the wood one burned up one afternoon) and he puts it in storage in the spring, so I only have to look at it in the winter.
Maybe I will go down and reshoot the 2nd. I focused on the blue jean jacket because I wanted the focus farther away, but you might be right about focusing on the yellow instead.

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Jan 5, 2012 10:35:57   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
Indi wrote:
No 2 is a really good shot. Nice perspective. :thumbup:


Thank you.

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Jan 5, 2012 10:36:23   #
Blake Loc: Alfred NY
 
sorry for misspelling yor name Country's Mama :thumbdown:

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Jan 5, 2012 10:37:25   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
Blake wrote:
Country's Mama wrote:
I would like to have some comment on composition and is my main question.
I was taking shots in my basement and noticed the light and way the clothes were hanging on the hook and wondered if I could get an interesting shot. These are two that I liked the best.
I took these with a Nikon D3000 and the kit lens and hand held
Both were shot on auto.
The first was shot at 1/8 and f/3.8 ISO 400
In photoshop I bumped the brightness to +17 and contrast to +37
Hue was -5 and Saturation +11
I also added a linear gradient fill angle 8.52 and 150 %
I also dodged some on the right hand side.

The second was shot at 1/25 and f/3.5 ISO 400
I ran levels
increased contrast +21 and Brightness +16 with a linear gradient fill at 116% Angle 0
I would like to have some comment on composition a... (show quote)


Hi Country Moma,
I as well like the 2nd one better for many of the same reasons already said. I would have croped out anything past the last jacket the red and black plaid one. They are both very good images and BTW I live in the country too. My basement is not a Martha Stewart house either. I like the pictures. Thank you for sharing
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Thank you, for your comments. There isn't anything in my house that would make you think of Martha Stewart. :lol:

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Jan 5, 2012 10:40:54   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
Singing Swan wrote:
tomfr wrote:
I know I am the first person to talk about photography being subjective, and if the shooter is pleased, that is most important. That being said, and, believe me, I mean no disrespect, but, what are you trying to convey ini those two images?



tomfr


Every image does not always need to 'convey' anything. These both bring to mind the idea of cold weather, lots of family, a sense of waiting, and the artistic angle in the second photo appeals to a sense of rightness and order. Learn to enjoy a photo for what it is, not what message it's trying to get across. Photography is supposed to be fun and I think these capture that very well. I have to agree with rocco (jeez, how many times have I had to say that arreedy!!) but the first one with the duct work in the background is a bit busy. I like the second one for the more simplistic angle you achieved. And the colors are good too. That yellow one makes me want to grab it off the rack and go out in the snow!!!
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Thank you, my husband couldn't believe I was photographing our messy basement. It doubles as a mudroom and woodworking shop and what ever else he wants to do out of the cold that he can get in the door. I did have fun with it. If you want to stay warm grab the plaid jacket LOL

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Jan 5, 2012 10:41:15   #
Blake Loc: Alfred NY
 
Country's Mama wrote:
Blake wrote:
Country's Mama wrote:
I would like to have some comment on composition and is my main question.
I was taking shots in my basement and noticed the light and way the clothes were hanging on the hook and wondered if I could get an interesting shot. These are two that I liked the best.
I took these with a Nikon D3000 and the kit lens and hand held
Both were shot on auto.
The first was shot at 1/8 and f/3.8 ISO 400
In photoshop I bumped the brightness to +17 and contrast to +37
Hue was -5 and Saturation +11
I also added a linear gradient fill angle 8.52 and 150 %
I also dodged some on the right hand side.

The second was shot at 1/25 and f/3.5 ISO 400
I ran levels
increased contrast +21 and Brightness +16 with a linear gradient fill at 116% Angle 0
I would like to have some comment on composition a... (show quote)


Hi Country Moma,
I as well like the 2nd one better for many of the same reasons already said. I would have croped out anything past the last jacket the red and black plaid one. They are both very good images and BTW I live in the country too. My basement is not a Martha Stewart house either. I like the pictures. Thank you for sharing
quote=Country's Mama I would like to have some co... (show quote)


Thank you, for your comments. There isn't anything in my house that would make you think of Martha Stewart. :lol:
quote=Blake quote=Country's Mama I would like to... (show quote)


Btw, the red and black plaid jacket, is the Stewart plaid in Scotland. So you do have a little Stewart in your home :-D

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Jan 5, 2012 10:44:02   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
docrob wrote:
Country's Mama wrote:
I would like to have some comment on composition and is my main question.
I was taking shots in my basement and noticed the light and way the clothes were hanging on the hook and wondered if I could get an interesting shot. These are two that I liked the best.
I took these with a Nikon D3000 and the kit lens and hand held
Both were shot on auto.
The first was shot at 1/8 and f/3.8 ISO 400
In photoshop I bumped the brightness to +17 and contrast to +37
Hue was -5 and Saturation +11
I also added a linear gradient fill angle 8.52 and 150 %
I also dodged some on the right hand side.

The second was shot at 1/25 and f/3.5 ISO 400
I ran levels
increased contrast +21 and Brightness +16 with a linear gradient fill at 116% Angle 0
I would like to have some comment on composition a... (show quote)


They both tell a story though #1 tells the story of clutter and #2 allows for imagination. Question for you: have you tried using levels, curves, selective color to make the changes instead of the brightness/contrast control?
quote=Country's Mama I would like to have some co... (show quote)


Clutter is definitely how I would describe that basement. :D I only have pse so I don't have curves. (unless that is a tool I have missed somehow) I have used the selective color. I am getting better at this, but I still have a lot to learn. Thank you for your comments.

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Jan 5, 2012 11:24:07   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
Blake wrote:
Country's Mama wrote:
Blake wrote:
Country's Mama wrote:
I would like to have some comment on composition and is my main question.
I was taking shots in my basement and noticed the light and way the clothes were hanging on the hook and wondered if I could get an interesting shot. These are two that I liked the best.
I took these with a Nikon D3000 and the kit lens and hand held
Both were shot on auto.
The first was shot at 1/8 and f/3.8 ISO 400
In photoshop I bumped the brightness to +17 and contrast to +37
Hue was -5 and Saturation +11
I also added a linear gradient fill angle 8.52 and 150 %
I also dodged some on the right hand side.

The second was shot at 1/25 and f/3.5 ISO 400
I ran levels
increased contrast +21 and Brightness +16 with a linear gradient fill at 116% Angle 0
I would like to have some comment on composition a... (show quote)


Hi Country Moma,
I as well like the 2nd one better for many of the same reasons already said. I would have croped out anything past the last jacket the red and black plaid one. They are both very good images and BTW I live in the country too. My basement is not a Martha Stewart house either. I like the pictures. Thank you for sharing
quote=Country's Mama I would like to have some co... (show quote)


Thank you, for your comments. There isn't anything in my house that would make you think of Martha Stewart. :lol:
quote=Blake quote=Country's Mama I would like to... (show quote)


Btw, the red and black plaid jacket, is the Stewart plaid in Scotland. So you do have a little Stewart in your home :-D
quote=Country's Mama quote=Blake quote=Country'... (show quote)


I do have a little Stewart, but I don't think he is what you are referring to. I have a Chihuahua named Stuart. :-)

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Jan 5, 2012 12:13:28   #
14kphotog Loc: Marietta, Ohio
 
Try making the 1st one a virtical crop. The second feels like home. The second could have the top left corner filled with she same color as the wall the clothes hang on. Like #2 best.

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Jan 5, 2012 12:25:20   #
jpims
 
The second picture is much better, however I would have liked it better if the front yellow jacket was in focus. As it is now the out of focus yellow is a distraction as I look further down the line.

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Jan 5, 2012 13:00:03   #
neil43
 
Country's Mama wrote:
tomfr wrote:
I know I am the first person to talk about photography being subjective, and if the shooter is pleased, that is most important. That being said, and, believe me, I mean no disrespect, but, what are you trying to convey ini those two images?



tomfr


My guess is you are not a farm boy. :) This picture would only mean something to someone who lives on a farm in an old farm house. I am trying to convey part of that lifestyle and it includes
barn clothes, sometimes quite a variety of them. I have seen many a mud room that had this feel to it. It is a nostalgic picture for me. I wish I had taken one when the kids were little and all different size barn clothes were hanging on those hooks, but I never would have thought of it then.
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"Stories" can give the viewer a particular experience. But as Jackson Pollock reportedly said: "When you look at a field of poppies you don't ask what it means, you just enjoy looking at it."

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Jan 5, 2012 13:04:02   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Well...here are my comments.

#1: I think it's good...but I'd do a few things to improve it.
a) Tighter crop; coats and boots only as much as possible.
b) The colors seem overly saturated (could be my monitor) but I'd tone it down slightly.
c.) I'd photoshop out all other elements such as the extension cord on the floor.

#2: I like it.
I'd crop tighter to eliminate anything besides the rack with the coats.


Overall...I think #2 works better.

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