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Jan 22, 2014 18:32:08   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
handgunner wrote:
It is the Chicken Littleist Syndrome. As my Profile says: "Statistics are numbers, manipulated by a few to justify a cause to the many".
Global warming is just a short term event. You must look at the whole picture of the Earth and it's infrastucture. Under the Crust is magma and as it cools so does the Earth. As it cools the temperature drops until it can no longer sustain life as we know it. Volcanoes also enter into the fator. They are Mother Nature's release valves to release pressure and because of their gasses and pyroplastic flow increace the atmospheric temperature and the green house effect. The temperature of the Earth's core is tranfered into the atmosphre. It is temporary. Human intervention is only a small part.
I am not a rocket scientist but know which end the fire comes out of. Just my opinion
It is the Chicken Littleist Syndrome. As my Profi... (show quote)


You are right. There are many factors that affect the temperature of the earth.

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Jan 22, 2014 18:33:26   #
Larrymbst Loc: Los Angeles,Ca
 
handgunner wrote:
It is the Chicken Littleist Syndrome. As my Profile says: "Statistics are numbers, manipulated by a few to justify a cause to the many".
Global warming is just a short term event. You must look at the whole picture of the Earth and it's infrastucture. Under the Crust is magma and as it cools so does the Earth. As it cools the temperature drops until it can no longer sustain life as we know it. Volcanoes also enter into the fator. They are Mother Nature's release valves to release pressure and because of their gasses and pyroplastic flow increace the atmospheric temperature and the green house effect. The temperature of the Earth's core is tranfered into the atmosphre. It is temporary. Human intervention is only a small part.
I am not a rocket scientist but know which end the fire comes out of. Just my opinion
It is the Chicken Littleist Syndrome. As my Profi... (show quote)


Your opinion and mine simply do not matter in a purely scientific discussion. Scientists across the world agree about this dangerous issue.

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Jan 22, 2014 18:38:19   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
[quote=Larrymbst][quote=TrainNut]"you ask a really dumb question about 700 years ago"
Not a dumb question. Nothing was said about air temperature.
Why insult the man rather than answer his question with facts. Why was it warmer 700 years ago?[/quo

If you're not talking temperature what do you mean it was "warmer 700 years ago" ?[/quote]

You have a reading disability don't you?
You have changed what was said in other posts to make it look like what was said was wrong.
You went from "air temperature " to "temperature".
"Global warming is about the total temperature of the earth. That includes air, water and land temperatures.

What you do is done by people just looking to prove everyone else wrong rather than having a honest discussion.

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Jan 22, 2014 18:44:22   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
Larrymbst wrote:
Your opinion and mine simply do not matter in a purely scientific discussion. Scientists across the world agree about this dangerous issue.


Scientists in the past have agreed on a lot of things that were wrong.

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Jan 22, 2014 19:01:42   #
Larrymbst Loc: Los Angeles,Ca
 
I am not trying to prove anybody wrong .That is the job of the "deniers" That would be like me trying to prove that the world is not flat. The science is there and you and Fox News would serve our future better by recognizing that FACT. By the way thye world is older than 6000 years. Surprise!!!

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Jan 22, 2014 19:02:53   #
handgunner Loc: Windsor Locks, Connecticut
 
TrainNut wrote:
Yes the world is getting warmer right now. We agree on that. It is not as warm as it was back in the 1300s. The Question is about the cause.

Thanks for your reply. I saw your chart and can say that the increase in atmospheric temperature can and may be attributed to the burning of unprocessed ground fossil fuels and the burning of wood to keep homes warm and factories running. Here in New England, Connecticut was nearly clear cut of woodlands for that purpose. A lot of the wildlife disappeared, including the deer, turkeys, etc...
I would be curious to see a line chart comparing the human population/temperature comparison.

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Jan 22, 2014 19:13:13   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
Larrymbst wrote:
I am not trying to prove anybody wrong .That is the job of the "deniers" That would be like me trying to prove that the world is not flat. The science is there and you and Fox News would serve our future better by recognizing that FACT. By the way thye world is older than 6000 years. Surprise!!!


No one said anything about the earth being only 6000 years old, you make wrong assumptions.
The facts are that science has been wrong in the past about a lot of things. If you do not know that you are not as smart as you think you are.

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Jan 22, 2014 19:13:24   #
handgunner Loc: Windsor Locks, Connecticut
 
On the lighter side ... We must all agree that cow farts are out of the senario.
On the other hand, Everyone needs to consider the fact that World Politics can bring on a Global nuclear Warming of Biblical proportions.

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Jan 22, 2014 19:16:39   #
handgunner Loc: Windsor Locks, Connecticut
 
handgunner wrote:
On the lighter side ... We must all agree that cow farts are out of the senario.
On the other hand, Everyone needs to consider the fact that World Politics can bring on a Global nuclear Warming of Biblical proportions.


Retracted last statement to this post.

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Jan 22, 2014 19:20:31   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
handgunner wrote:
On the lighter side ... We must all agree that cow farts are out of the senario.
On the other hand, Everyone needs to consider the fact that World Politics can bring on a Global nuclear Warming of Biblical proportions.


"Year Without a Summer"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
A very interesting article on how events affect the earth.
This was recent history.

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Jan 22, 2014 19:34:28   #
Larrymbst Loc: Los Angeles,Ca
 
May I suggest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy

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Jan 22, 2014 19:51:18   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 


There is not a debate that the earth is getting warmer. The debate is why?

What causes the earth to get warmer?
How much of that is caused by human activity?
How much is caused by natural activity?

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Jan 23, 2014 07:11:53   #
sourdough58 Loc: Maine
 
TrainNut wrote:
What causes "Global Warming"?
Is it CO2?


Corrupt politicians with with agendas that are willing to lie cheat.

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Jan 23, 2014 07:14:29   #
woody54895 Loc: NW Wisconsin
 
As Foxworthy would say, if you don't believe in Science, you gotta be a Conservative.

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Jan 23, 2014 07:47:43   #
Gnslngr
 
TrainNut wrote:
There is not a debate that the earth is getting warmer. The debate is why?

What causes the earth to get warmer?
How much of that is caused by human activity?
How much is caused by natural activity?


Train, these are great questions! Let's ask the scientists. But which ones? Hmmm....

Physicists? Botanists? Climatologists? Yea, that's it. Let's ask the climatologists - they have spent their lives seeking the truth about the climate of the planet. And they publish papers about their findings, and all the other climatologists climb all over themselves trying to knock down their conclusions. They do everything they can do to prove that published climatologist wrong. After a while, they come up with a paper and a school of thought that none of them can come up with evidence to refute. (By the way, this is called "the scientific method".)

So let's ask them: what is causing global warming?

100% of the climatologists that use the scientific method (in other words, 100% of the scientists that have spent their life trying to determine the truth about the planet's climate) say that man is the cause of the increase in the average temperature of the earth's climate system.

Wow. We have an answer.

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