Learning Curve - definition
Jan 7, 2014 22:25:32 #
OK, I admit it- I cannot stand it any longer. EVERYONE uses the term wrong.
A "steep" learning curve means easy.
A "shallow" curve is difficult.
You plot the X axis (horizontal) as time - the Y vertical axis is skill or knowledge.
Photoshop has a SHALLOW learning curve. Got it? ;-)
The way people here obsess over Raw vs. JPG or AdobeRGB 1998 vs. sRGB and go on and on about what is right - how 'bout you get this right?
From Wikipedia:
"Steep learning curve"[edit]
The expression steep learning curve is used with opposite meanings. The term is often used in common English with the meaning of a difficult initial learning process.[24][6] Nevertheless, the Oxford English Dictionary, The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, and Merriam-WebsterÂ’s Collegiate Dictionary define a learning curve as the rate at which skill is acquired, so a steep increase would mean a quick increment of skill.[5][24]
OH yeah - the awful word "bokeh" is misused most of the time too. So there.
OK, I feel better.
A "steep" learning curve means easy.
A "shallow" curve is difficult.
You plot the X axis (horizontal) as time - the Y vertical axis is skill or knowledge.
Photoshop has a SHALLOW learning curve. Got it? ;-)
The way people here obsess over Raw vs. JPG or AdobeRGB 1998 vs. sRGB and go on and on about what is right - how 'bout you get this right?
From Wikipedia:
"Steep learning curve"[edit]
The expression steep learning curve is used with opposite meanings. The term is often used in common English with the meaning of a difficult initial learning process.[24][6] Nevertheless, the Oxford English Dictionary, The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, and Merriam-WebsterÂ’s Collegiate Dictionary define a learning curve as the rate at which skill is acquired, so a steep increase would mean a quick increment of skill.[5][24]
OH yeah - the awful word "bokeh" is misused most of the time too. So there.
OK, I feel better.
Jan 7, 2014 22:28:41 #
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Kinda like the discussions about dpi/ppi !! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Kinda like the discussions about dpi/ppi !! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jan 7, 2014 22:28:47 #
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Jan 7, 2014 22:33:02 #
SharpShooter wrote:
Captain, haven't you been over this before??;-)
But some people just REFUSE to listen!! I know exactly where he is coming from!!
Jan 7, 2014 22:38:25 #
[quote=CaptainC]OK, I admit it- I cannot stand it any longer. EVERYONE uses the term wrong.
A "steep" learning curve means easy.
A "shallow" curve is difficult.
Hello CaptainC
Thank you for this information I for one was not aware of this.
Saying hello from Pittsburgh
A "steep" learning curve means easy.
A "shallow" curve is difficult.
Hello CaptainC
Thank you for this information I for one was not aware of this.
Saying hello from Pittsburgh
Jan 7, 2014 22:40:38 #
Whuff wrote:
You say tomato, I say steep learning curve is difficult.
And you would be wrong. It does not matter what you think it should be - it is what it is - and steep is easy.
You cannot change a definition because you want to.
I am going to haunt you all and correct you every time, so shape up!
Jan 7, 2014 22:47:10 #
Actually, same as climbing a cliff 'steep' means short intense effort. It does not mean long and it does not mean easy either.
So you are wrong. It is not easy but for those already trained in a skill and using adapted equipment.
So you are wrong. It is not easy but for those already trained in a skill and using adapted equipment.
Jan 7, 2014 22:58:20 #
Captain C is right. Just because something sounds right because of incorrect usage doesn't necessarily make it right. Furthermore, no one should ever trust Wikipedia; it's a hack dictionary. Want the correct call? Go to Merriam Webster, American Heritage, or the OED. They are the definitive ones. Note: Not just any Webster's dictionary will do--Webster's is a generic term now--Merriam Webster is the respected one.
Jan 7, 2014 23:04:53 #
CaptainC wrote:
OK, I admit it- I cannot stand it any longer. EVER... (show quote)
I think you have them mixed up a little, as far as I know, a shallow learning curve means, it's quite easy, while a steep learning curve means, there's a lot to learn =somewhat difficult.
Jan 7, 2014 23:20:49 #
speters wrote:
I think you have them mixed up a little, as far as I know, a shallow learning curve means, it's quite easy, while a steep learning curve means, there's a lot to learn =somewhat difficult.
If it's a steep curve, the learning goes up quickly. If it's a shallow one, it takes a long time to go up, or to advance. Again, the Captain is correct.
Jan 7, 2014 23:30:31 #
So do we go with the dictionary definition or do we go with the way a term is used on the street. The importance is communication. I relearned the definition of bokah to understand what is said in these threads. I understand a different definition in the rest of cyberspace.
The horizon - it can look straight, but be canted from reality.
Fact is fact, but truth is relative.
The horizon - it can look straight, but be canted from reality.
Fact is fact, but truth is relative.
Jan 7, 2014 23:38:14 #
speters wrote:
I think you have them mixed up a little, as far as I know, a shallow learning curve means, it's quite easy, while a steep learning curve means, there's a lot to learn =somewhat difficult.
Nope - you are wrong as well. You are think what you think I SHOULD be. I learned this back in instructor training in the sixties and the definition has not changed.
Jan 7, 2014 23:38:54 #
lightchime wrote:
So do we go with the dictionary definition or do we go with the way a term is used on the street. The importance is communication. I relearned the definition of bokah to understand what is said in these threads. I understand a different definition in the rest of cyberspace.
The horizon - it can look straight, but be canted from reality.
Fact is fact, but truth is relative.
The horizon - it can look straight, but be canted from reality.
Fact is fact, but truth is relative.
You go with what is right, not what people parrot because they do not know the language.
Jan 7, 2014 23:40:33 #
speters wrote:
I think you have them mixed up a little, as far as I know, a shallow learning curve means, it's quite easy, while a steep learning curve means, there's a lot to learn =somewhat difficult.
BZZZZZT. Thanks for playing the game. But wrong answer.
Steep is easy - just plot the damn thing and see.
X (horiz) axis it time - Y (vert.) axis is skill
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