Ethical vs. Artistic Dilemna (Page 2): I would certainly think that would drive the 'use' of the picture. Certainly no the click of the shutter. FYI, I would have taken the shot, then...

Bobbee

amehta wrote:

We are always supposed to judge our own actions.

Your example raises a good caveat. If I was hired by the organizers of the event to shoot it, then I would take the picture. Otherwise, though, I would not.

I would certainly think that would drive the 'use' of the picture. Certainly no the click of the shutter. FYI, I would have taken the shot, then decide. I have taken many shots that later on thought twice of. But to not take the shot does not offer up the situation where you could possibly judge yourself. It is not buying a gun that makes you bad, it is when you use that gun to kill people. lets get some separation here.

amehta Loc: Boston

Bobbee wrote:

I would certainly think that would drive the 'use' of the picture. Certainly no the click of the shutter. FYI, I would have taken the shot, then decide. I have taken many shots that later on thought twice of. But to not take the shot does not offer up the situation where you could possibly judge yourself. It is not buying a gun that makes you bad, it is when you use that gun to kill people. lets get some separation here.

Well, to use your gun analogy, I'd say that pulling out a gun and aiming it at a completely innocent person is also a bad action. Similarly, just taking the picture is an invasion of privacy, even if you don't use it later. Again, street photography is different. It appears that this was in a somewhat private venue.

crimesc324 Loc: West Palm Beach, Florida

rocco_7155 wrote:

So here's the scenario I was faced with a month ag... (show quote)

I hope I would have done what you did too

Bobbee

amehta wrote:

Well, to use your gun analogy, I'd say that pulling out a gun and aiming it at a completely innocent person is also a bad action. Similarly, just taking the picture is an invasion of privacy, even if you don't use it later. Again, street photography is different. It appears that this was in a somewhat private venue.

they were in a public place.

amehta Loc: Boston

Bobbee wrote:

they were in a public place.

I don't think the lobby of a museum is considered a public place. Otherwise museums would not be allowed to say, "no photography of artwork".

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

rocco_7155 wrote:

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That is definitely a tough call. On the one hand, we appreciate all the images we see of emotional situations. Taking those photos is quite another thing, though. It's good to have them but tough to take them. In your situation, I would have done the same thing - and regretted the missed shot later.

I always thank the WWII vets I see wearing their "WWII Veteran" hats.

Bobbee

amehta wrote:

I don't think the lobby of a museum is considered a public place. Otherwise museums would not be allowed to say, "no photography of artwork".

Was the museum open to the public? Was there signs posted no photography? If the museum did not allow photographers they would not have let the author in with his camera. As an example I was not allowed in the MMA museum with my camera. I had to lock it up in a keyed storage locker. So the fact that this person was standing there, in a lobby inhabited by public people with his camera around their neck might go to show that policy is not in effect here. If it was, that has not come out, it is just conjecture at this point, it is still an open public area and all is fair game. Sorry you don't like it, but things are what they are. PS, take the shot. :-)

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Bobbee wrote:

As an example I was not allowed in the MMA museum with my camera. I had to lock it up in a keyed storage locker.

Funny, but that reminds me of an identical situation many years ago. I had to lock up my camera when I entered, and I was worried about it the whole time. I don't remember where, but it might have been the MMA.

amehta Loc: Boston

Bobbee wrote:

Was the museum open to the public? Was there signs... (show quote)

My point about some museums not allowing photography is not whether this museum allowed it, but rather the question of public place or not. Clearly museums are not public places, since they can decide not to allow photography. The rules for photography in a private place are different than in a public place ("street photography" ). PS, don't take the shot. :-)

And if you take the shot of me, I'm pulling out my gun. Well, except I don't have one, so I guess I'm not. But it's still rude.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

amehta wrote:

And if you take the shot of me, I'm pulling out my gun. Well, except I don't have one, so I guess I'm not. But it's still rude.

To avoid all confusion, museums should have signs stating their policy about the use of cameras and the use of guns within their walls. :D

nokin

I agree with you. I would have taken the same decision probably...
except sometimes, I take the photo, show it to the person on the photo and if he or she agree, I ask to him or her their e-mail to send to them the photo to thank them. At the same time, I ask to them to sign to be able to use the photo at a contest or as promotion. Almost every time they sign and they really enjoy the souvenir brought by the photo. Usually the contact with the person can be emotional for us too.
If they don't want me to use the photo, I erase the photo, simply. Usually, I don't ask before taking the photo, because it change all the emotional effect of the moment.

amehta Loc: Boston

nokin wrote:

I agree with you. I would have taken the same deci... (show quote)

:thumbup: I like your general approach.

Wickspics Loc: Detroits Northwest Side. Cody High School.

Same as you did; you did right;

Blake Loc: Alfred NY

rocco_7155 wrote:

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I was not there but, as someone that has seen tragedy first hand, I would have done the same as you, sir.

Blake

UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA

rocco_7155 wrote:

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You handled it as decently and properly as anyone could possibly have handled it. You did the most important thing Rocco, you showed the gentleman respect. This hat is off to you Sir !