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Dec 10, 2011 10:55:00   #
Curtis Thomson
 
If you process in either photoshop or Lightroom using camera RAW, there is
a little drop down menu in the right hand panel near the top just underneath the row of ten icons. Click on this very small triangle and click again when it drops open on "Camera Raw Defaults". This will match what you see on your
monitor to the original image. The image has actually never changed. what you
see if you've previously opened the image and not hit CANCEL, is what the change looked like, but the original will always be there. All you need do is
return it to it's default state.

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Dec 10, 2011 10:55:02   #
Curtis Thomson
 
If you process in either photoshop or Lightroom using camera RAW, there is
a little drop down menu in the right hand panel near the top just underneath the row of ten icons. Click on this very small triangle and click again when it drops open on "Camera Raw Defaults". This will match what you see on your
monitor to the original image. The image has actually never changed. what you
see if you've previously opened the image and not hit CANCEL, is what the change looked like, but the original will always be there. All you need do is
return it to it's default state.

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Dec 10, 2011 10:55:02   #
Curtis Thomson
 
If you process in either photoshop or Lightroom using camera RAW, there is
a little drop down menu in the right hand panel near the top just underneath the row of ten icons. Click on this very small triangle and click again when it drops open on "Camera Raw Defaults". This will match what you see on your
monitor to the original image. The image has actually never changed. what you
see if you've previously opened the image and not hit CANCEL, is what the change looked like, but the original will always be there. All you need do is
return it to it's default state.

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Dec 10, 2011 10:55:02   #
Curtis Thomson
 
If you process in either photoshop or Lightroom using camera RAW, there is
a little drop down menu in the right hand panel near the top just underneath the row of ten icons. Click on this very small triangle and click again when it drops open on "Camera Raw Defaults". This will match what you see on your
monitor to the original image. The image has actually never changed. what you
see if you've previously opened the image and not hit CANCEL, is what the change looked like, but the original will always be there. All you need do is
return it to it's default state.

Reply
Dec 10, 2011 10:55:04   #
Curtis Thomson
 
If you process in either photoshop or Lightroom using camera RAW, there is
a little drop down menu in the right hand panel near the top just underneath the row of ten icons. Click on this very small triangle and click again when it drops open on "Camera Raw Defaults". This will match what you see on your
monitor to the original image. The image has actually never changed. what you
see if you've previously opened the image and not hit CANCEL, is what the change looked like, but the original will always be there. All you need do is
return it to it's default state.

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Dec 10, 2011 11:09:14   #
Paw Paw Bill Loc: d
 
Hey! Curtis! Don't get too impatient waiting on your post to upload and "Send" too many time. LOL (we've all done it a time or two)

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Dec 10, 2011 11:09:32   #
Raybazan Loc: Rockport, TX
 
Cocoroger I feel your pain. I am using Photoshop CS5 Bridge and I had the same problem. The solution I found is that on the RAW image (On Bridge) you can right click and delete all changes and get it back to the original RAW settings. Hope this helps and good luck. Ray

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Dec 10, 2011 11:40:18   #
jacksdvds Loc: Ft. Mohave, AZ
 
Put the original on DVD and copy on to computer the one(s) you want to work on. Kills two birds with one disk. (Backup)
CocoRoger wrote:
I did a search of the RAW file and it only showed up the one file that was changed and no other location. I'm using ViewNX 2. After I save it to jpg, the original RAW is altered to the jpg. When I click on the original RAW the changed version is now permanently RAW. Great, this is what Nikon says:NOTE: It is generally recommended to create a copy of the original file ( or folder ) and work with the copy. This way, if a mistake occurs you can always start over. This is not actually necessary, but if you are unsure if you will ever want the larger size back, you would still have the original file save.

So if I take 100 20meg NEF files I then am supposed to back ALL of them up by creating another folder and doubling the amount of space on my HD??? This is ridiculous!
I did a search of the RAW file and it only showed ... (show quote)

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Dec 10, 2011 11:42:35   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Roger - I shoot simultaneous RAW & JPG. I use Nikon Transfer (provided on disk with camera) to upload from camera to computer. I copy all NEF & JPG files to a new folder within "My Picture", labeled with year, month & day. Today's folder would be 11-12-09. This is my permanent folder, which I can access with Picasa 3, PSE-10, or any PP program.

Within Picasa, I view the camera's JPGs, and "edit" the RAW images, which are then saved as new JPGs, the first edit with a "-1" added to image name. I can edit the RAW image many times, and each edit gets a new, sequential number added.

Picasa 3 is free, and quite handy for basic image tweaking.
Roger - I shoot simultaneous RAW & JPG. I use... (show quote)


I use essentially the same process.... I have Picasa, but usually use other programs. I've not encountered this problem with my NEFs

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Dec 10, 2011 12:03:37   #
Coops Place Loc: Chicago Area
 
Wow! Thanks dfalk, patrick28, paw paw bill, curtis thomas, and raybazan. I learnt something today about the .xmp files and Bridge. When I did something in RAW, I wondered why the .xmp files would show up. I assumed they had something to do with the RAW file, but didn't know that I could delete them to go back. And, the other things mentioned that you could do in Bridge to undo your changes, Wow. Thanks again. This was very helpful. I suppose I should thank cocoroger for having the problem in the first place as it opened the discussion.

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Dec 10, 2011 12:33:10   #
Coops Place Loc: Chicago Area
 
OK whiz kids, now that we are on RAW pictures, I have Photoshop CS5. When I open a raw picture up in Camera Raw and make changes like crop or straighten, I would like to just step back from an adjustment. But, I can't find a undo or history setting that lets you undo just one or two steps. Is that feature there and I haven't found it yet?

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Dec 10, 2011 12:37:01   #
nyweb2001
 
File menu on top....Edit....Undo ?

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Dec 10, 2011 12:47:18   #
Paw Paw Bill Loc: d
 
Coops Place wrote:
OK whiz kids, now that we are on RAW pictures, I have Photoshop CS5. When I open a raw picture up in Camera Raw and make changes like crop or straighten, I would like to just step back from an adjustment. But, I can't find a undo or history setting that lets you undo just one or two steps. Is that feature there and I haven't found it yet?


As nyweb2001 said "edit", "undo". This works only for the first 'undo'. It then becomes a 'redo'. If you want more than just the one level of 'undo', then look 2 lines under the 'undo' in the menu and you will see a 'step backward'. You can back up one step at a time all the way to the beginning.

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Dec 10, 2011 13:14:07   #
Coops Place Loc: Chicago Area
 
Let me restate something. I'm looking for a undo button while I'm working in the Camera Raw screen. I haven't moved the picture over to edit in Photoshop CS5 yet.

Camera Raw Screen
Camera Raw Screen...

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Dec 10, 2011 13:25:03   #
RMM Loc: Suburban New York
 
Just a minor addition: the .xmp file is visible in Windows Explorer or Mac OS X Finder. However, Bridge and Photoshop, and I assume other editing software, doesn't show the .xmp file. The programs are "smart enough" to show you the image as edited, rather than an image file and a separate .xmp file which is just sitting around. Reverting to the original image is an editing option, which either trashes or ignores the existng .xmp file.

Note that if you move an image file to another folder in Explorer or Finder without moving the corresponding .xmp file, your changes will appear to have vaporized.

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