sye wrote:
Obviously you are another person who has never served. First of all, those who protect the president are US Marines.
The "GIs", as you so eloquently refer to those who "Only do funerals" or just "play in a band" - primarily here in DC, are members of the US Army THIRD INFANTRY DIVISION (AKA- The Old Guard) The most decorated military unit in the US. It's a privilege for a GI to be assigned to the Old Guard. I weaqnt to see how you could handle the summer heat and humidity in a Dress Blue (formal) uniform to play in that band, provide official full military honors at a funeral and ALSO guard the Tomb of ther Unknowns.
Every military person from Marines to Navy to Army -- AND Coast Guard for that matter --has gone through basic training. They don't even know what the military occupational specialty (MOS) is going to make them a band member, an infantry man, or any other specialty until they complete Basic Training.
Get your head out of YOUR ass and honor those that have taken an oath to die for YOUR sorry ass if necessary !!!!! YES that also includes those band members, honor guards, cooks and anyone else wearing a military uniform.
Then you can go back and drink your Starbucks, drive your PC car, and eat raw veggies.
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And you started out so rational.
I once considered auditioning for the DC Marine Band.
At that time your MOS was guaranteed when you enlisted, and The Marine Band members (in D. C.) did not do basic. At that time, that was a fact. It may have changed.
The other services, including West Point, and Naval Academy, did do basic, but I believe their MOS was guaranteed.
I did audition for the Army Band, and was accepted, but did not serve.
The Old Guard may be very heroic, but the musicians--if present in an active theater--are assigned to carry bodies back from the front--necessary, but hardly heroic.
BUT, my point was that D. C. Is full of country bands, big bands, public event announcers, strolling string groups (for playing at officer cocktail parties), drum and bugle corps, drum and fife corps, chamber suit groups (cocktail parties again), honor guards, and ceremonial bands who play nothing but funerals, and on, and on, and on.
Some do nothing buy carry bodies at funerals and fold flags.
These people are necessary, but hardly heroic. I respect their service.
But it ain't the same.
These are ceremonial positions, and end up as part of the furniture (save your apoplexy here), and it doesn't bother me one bit if any President gets a little casual in his salute, or fails to salute at all.
There are many important things we should debate. Some of them involve the needless deaths of eight thousand soldiers and contractors in frivolous wars.
Or the deaths of 135,000 to a million civilians in Iraq.
Or Drones.
Or a military building the perfect instrument to re-fight WW II, while losing 'people's wars' in Vietnam Nam and the Middle East.
Those issues deserve debate, thoughtful, careful debate.
And you can't make me believe that active duty soldiers NEVER receive a return salute from active duty officers, as casual as as the one pictured.
I also consider myself a liberal, and am damn proud of it!
BTW, I sauté my veggies.