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Jun 1, 2013 08:37:21   #
hfb Loc: Northwestern Louisiana
 
Thank you all for your comments. I think I will get gphoto2 working today and get the data directly.I have a USB port problem. I have read online the T3i will only get around 13000 actuations. My other camera, Mamiya 645 1000s, gets 100,000 per battery replacement. It is over 30 years old and still going strong. I am finding the T3i is much better photograph machine than I expected.

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Jun 1, 2013 08:55:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
hfb wrote:
Thank you all for your comments. I think I will get gphoto2 working today and get the data directly.I have a USB port problem. I have read online the T3i will only get around 13000 actuations. My other camera, Mamiya 645 1000s, gets 100,000 per battery replacement. It is over 30 years old and still going strong. I am finding the T3i is much better photograph machine than I expected.

I think that 13,000 figure applies only if you drop the camera into ocean after taking the 13,000th photo. Modern DSLRs should be good for 100,000. Of course, "your mileage may vary."

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Jun 1, 2013 09:58:09   #
hfb Loc: Northwestern Louisiana
 
That is good to hear. The discussion had a lot of data showing most were failing around 13000 actuation's. I thought it sounded very low. The shutter is smaller than a 35mm and they last much longer.

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Jun 1, 2013 10:28:02   #
RocketScientist Loc: Littleton, Colorado
 
hfb wrote:
I tried www.eoscount.com and it is not there.


Yay! I ain't the only Linux user! Let me know if you coax the count out using gphoto.

Maybe try try the command line with shuttercount instead of shuttercounter. They may have changed the name of the variable on the camera.

Try this link:
http://www.eoscount.com/

It is there. I tested it before posting. For this site, A windows machine will work better.

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Jun 1, 2013 10:36:41   #
hfb Loc: Northwestern Louisiana
 
RocketScientist wrote:
Yay! I ain't the only Linux user! Let me know if you coax the count out using gphoto.

Maybe try try the command line with shuttercount instead of shuttercounter. They may have changed the name of the variable on the camera.

Try this link:
http://www.eoscount.com/

It is there. I tested it before posting. For this site, A windows machine will work better.


I have a USB port problem. Gthumb works gphoto2 does not.

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Jun 1, 2013 10:49:13   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
hfb wrote:
Thank you all for your comments. I think I will get gphoto2 working today and get the data directly.I have a USB port problem. I have read online the T3i will only get around 13000 actuations. My other camera, Mamiya 645 1000s, gets 100,000 per battery replacement. It is over 30 years old and still going strong. I am finding the T3i is much better photograph machine than I expected.


Hey Doc ..... in order to ring up 130,000 clicks in a year you'd need to take over 350 shots a day. When you first get it you may go click crazy for a day or two .....

..... so for 12 hours a day you'd have to take two pictures every minute ..... ya couldn't eat, you'd be doing nothing else besides clicking doc ..... if this became your everyday activity maybe worrying about camera clicks wouldn't be ya biggest problem .....

..... I have my two Nikon D70s cameras for almost 6 years, and don't total 40,000 clicks if I add em both together .....

..... If you're worried about condition go buy new ..... the $100 difference isn't worth talkin about ..... go get an SLR you'll enjoy it .....

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Jun 1, 2013 11:11:24   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Wabbit wrote:
If Canon did the refurbish it'll be set back to zero anyway


That is incorrect.

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Jun 1, 2013 11:14:17   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Wabbit wrote:
Hey Doc ..... in order to ring up 130,000 clicks in a year you'd need to take over 350 shots a day. When you first get it you may go click crazy for a day or two .....

..... so for 12 hours a day you'd have to take two pictures every minute ..... ya couldn't eat, you'd be doing nothing else besides clicking doc ..... if this became your everyday activity maybe worrying about camera clicks wouldn't be ya biggest problem .....

..... I have my two Nikon D70s cameras for almost 6 years, and don't total 40,000 clicks if I add em both together .....

..... If you're worried about condition go buy new ..... the $100 difference isn't worth talkin about ..... go get an SLR you'll enjoy it .....
Hey Doc ..... in order to ring up 130,000 clicks i... (show quote)


I've got 38,000 in three years and know lots of people who take more. Its not unusual.

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Jun 1, 2013 11:17:29   #
Old Redeye Loc: San Mateo, CA
 
Dlevon wrote:
I agree with you! Photographers seem to have many obsessions, and especially with the shutter count? How many people shoot a hundred thousand pictures and what's the dif. What happens? The shutter drops dead, slows down, or what! If any of that happens, it's time to get a new camera anyway. How many of us other than professionals, have shot one hundred thousand pictures? I don't think I shot 100,000 pictures in my lifetime, counting all the cameras I've had. It will be interesting to hear from others as to how many pictures they shot in their. lifetime
I agree with you! Photographers seem to have many ... (show quote)


I have 81,353 images in my LR4 catalog and thousands of slides and prints. These from probably a dozen cameras. Shutter count? Immaterial to me.

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Jun 1, 2013 11:22:20   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
hfb wrote:
Thank you all for your comments. I think I will get gphoto2 working today and get the data directly.I have a USB port problem. I have read online the T3i will only get around 13000 actuations. My other camera, Mamiya 645 1000s, gets 100,000 per battery replacement. It is over 30 years old and still going strong. I am finding the T3i is much better photograph machine than I expected.


The T3i is already two versions back, but its still a terrific little camera. I gave one to my son for his birthday last year. Eoscount is a very good shutter count program but I'm not sure it will run on Linux. It definitely won't run on a Mac.
I

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Jun 1, 2013 11:26:06   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
banjonut wrote:
No need to worry. Being a Canon, it probably has a low shutter count.

Lock the gates. I hear any angry mob gathering.


Low is a relative term. Some Canon refurbs have a few as a few hundreds clicks, others as much as 15K or more

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Jun 1, 2013 11:27:33   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
cjkorb wrote:
When a manufacturer refurb's a camera, do they automatically put a new shutter in and reset it to zero?


Not Canon.

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Jun 1, 2013 11:28:26   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Wabbit wrote:
I doubt very much if any shutters get replaced unless there are issues ..... they do have the ability to reset the chip to zero .....


They may have the ability, but they don't.

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Jun 1, 2013 11:37:46   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've bought several refurbs, and they all had under 100 clicks - Nikons. Refurbs are the best deal in the world. You get a virtually new camera for lots less money.

Yes, but you also only get a 90 day warranty rather than one year. And refurbs are after all used. Some have as many as 15K actuations and some have come with minor scuff marks and abrasions. Don't get me wrong, they are a good value, but in the end you get what you pay for. Many do look brand new. But, unless the refurb is in mint condition with a low shutter count and the price is significantly better than I can get it new to make up for the short warranty, I personally would stick with a new body. Having said that most (but not all) refurb purchasers are profoundly satisfied with their cameras.

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Jun 1, 2013 11:39:18   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I think that 13,000 figure applies only if you drop the camera into ocean after taking the 13,000th photo. Modern DSLRs should be good for 100,000. Of course, "your mileage may vary."

Completely agree!

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