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May 12, 2013 10:01:10   #
Festus Loc: North Dakota
 
Bill Emmett wrote:
I have been reading about Adobe's newest blunder for "Photo Shop". I really don't want to send all my photos to be held ransom in "The Cloud" somewhere. I would like acquire a new PP program that is a more "down to Earth". I would like it be fully documented, with how to books, workbooks etc. I have been using Elements 8, and 10. I'm wondering what "Light room" will bring to the table. I know there are free programs out there but most have no documentation. GIMP seems to be popular, with little documentation. So, any and all suggestions are welcome.
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Your photos are not stored in the Cloud unless you chose to have then stored there. All photos that you download from your camera or directly from the various memory cards that you might be using, can be stored on your computer, just as they always have been. The only thing that you have to do if you "subscribe" to Adobes Cloud is to download the software onto "your" computer. Every thing is as was before. You work with the software, i.e.; import, edit, save, print, open, etc. all from YOUR OWN COMPUTER. Nothing goes to the Cloud unless you designate it to go there. The Cloud at the lowest end will provide periodic updates to the software as they are made available by Adobe. This way your software is always up-to-date and current. Bottom line is that YOU control what you want to store in the Cloud, if anything at all.

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May 12, 2013 10:36:03   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
Mogul wrote:
I just received the following PM today; I'm sure Kat won't mind my sharing:

Just wanted to let you know that the new edition of my GIMP book is out and it's on sale for only $5. No coupon code necessary.

You can buy a kindle compatible version on Amazon.com or a PDF version on my website at http://how-to-gimp.com/gimp-book

Here's the Amazon link in case you prefer that version: http://www.amazon.com/How-to-GIMP-ebook/dp/B00CPDQHJS/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1368...
I just received the following PM today; I'm sure K... (show quote)


Thanks for the links. I read the "look inside" preview on Amazon and she described her adventure which has mirrored mine to date with Gimp. Just bought the eBook. I am very proficient with PS so once I get my arms around Gimp's differences I should be good to fly with it.

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May 12, 2013 14:33:48   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
FilmFanatic wrote:
If only GIMP ran Photoshop plugins I would be in with a grin. I have to have some flavour of Photoshop to run Colorperfect to convert my scans of negatives into positives


Gimp will run them.

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May 12, 2013 14:41:02   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
Festus wrote:
Your photos are not stored in the Cloud unless you chose to have then stored there. All photos that you download from your camera or directly from the various memory cards that you might be using, can be stored on your computer, just as they always have been. The only thing that you have to do if you "subscribe" to Adobes Cloud is to download the software onto "your" computer. Every thing is as was before. You work with the software, i.e.; import, edit, save, print, open, etc. all from YOUR OWN COMPUTER. Nothing goes to the Cloud unless you designate it to go there. The Cloud at the lowest end will provide periodic updates to the software as they are made available by Adobe. This way your software is always up-to-date and current. Bottom line is that YOU control what you want to store in the Cloud, if anything at all.
Your photos are not stored in the Cloud unless you... (show quote)


From what I can gather is that the new Adobe will work like most other on-line editing programs, you will sign in to their services , chose the program you want to work in, do your editing, save your work to your computer and go about your business. One will have access and use of any Adobe editing software, main difference is that the software will no longer be saved on your computer. The larger of the problems I can see is that one would have to have a fast internet provider.

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May 12, 2013 14:54:47   #
robert-photos Loc: Chicago
 
UP-2-IT wrote:
From what I can gather is that the new Adobe will work like most other on-line editing programs, you will sign in to their services , chose the program you want to work in, do your editing, save your work to your computer and go about your business. One will have access and use of any Adobe editing software, main difference is that the software will no longer be saved on your computer. The larger of the problems I can see is that one would have to have a fast internet provider.


Please note that you will need to download the program onto your computer, it will not reside in the "cloud".
The Creative Cloud from time to time, depending on your subscription duration, will only check to see if you have paid.

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May 12, 2013 15:20:04   #
UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA
 
robert-photos wrote:
Please note that you will need to download the program onto your computer, it will not reside in the "cloud".
The Creative Cloud from time to time, depending on your subscription duration, will only check to see if you have paid.


OK, TY for clearing that up. So it will be a $50.00 per month rental to use their software?

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May 12, 2013 15:36:20   #
jimni2001 Loc: Sierra Vista, Arizona, USA
 
UP-2-IT wrote:
OK, TY for clearing that up. So it will be a $50.00 per month rental to use their software?


The $50 price is for all of Adobe's software. If you are a new Adobe user it is $20 for a single Application it is $20 and if you already own CS3 or newer it is $10 a month for the first year.
See this:
http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/buying-guide.html

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May 12, 2013 15:39:01   #
Sac-Jack Loc: Sacramento, Ca
 
I also use Lightroom and PS11. I find that the two work very well together. I also have PS CS5 but found that between the two they work easier them just PS CS5. I love using Lightroom.

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May 12, 2013 20:38:18   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
UP-2-IT wrote:
From what I can gather is that the new Adobe will work like most other on-line editing programs, you will sign in to their services , chose the program you want to work in, do your editing, save your work to your computer and go about your business. One will have access and use of any Adobe editing software, main difference is that the software will no longer be saved on your computer. The larger of the problems I can see is that one would have to have a fast internet provider.

You'll only have access and use of any Deobe editing software if you pay the subscription fee to use that software. For example, if you just want to use Photoshop, it will be $9.99 a month for the first year and $19.99 a month after that. If you want to use, say, Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, the subscription fee is higher, probably in the $30 a month range.

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May 13, 2013 14:18:53   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
Just say, "Good-bye Adobe. Hello Corel."
Corel's AfterShot Pro replaces Lightroom and their PaintShop Pro replaces Photoshop.
Prices are far better than Adobe and often on sale at nearly half off. Try the 30 day free trail and watch for a good price.

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May 14, 2013 15:48:05   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
OP said he uses Elements 8. Elements isn't part of the CC anyway. Ah, the wonderful interweb, more confusion and misinformation at your fingertips than you could ever use.

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May 14, 2013 15:59:35   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
Brian in Whitby wrote:
Just say, "Good-bye Adobe. Hello Corel."
Corel's AfterShot Pro replaces Lightroom and their PaintShop Pro replaces Photoshop.
Prices are far better than Adobe and often on sale at nearly half off. Try the 30 day free trail and watch for a good price.


They may be used instead of but they aren't close to being equals. Hopefully Corel and others will step up their game and get competitive on features and capabilities instead of just a much lower price.

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May 15, 2013 00:43:19   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
gmcase wrote:
They may be used instead of but they aren't close to being equals. Hopefully Corel and others will step up their game and get competitive on features and capabilities instead of just a much lower price.


You are probably correct on that. However, they provide enough for most photographers.If you are a graphics designer, you would probably have to add Corel Painter and perhaps Corel Draw to do all that CS does.

I suspect that most photographers don't use 40% of the capabilities of of CS. For the most of us The Corel products are all we need. I do know that AfterShot Pro beats the pants off Camera Raw for processing RAW files.

Did you know that PaintShop Pro can use some, maybe all the third party plug-ins that are so popular with Photoshop?

I know that the Corel products are not a replacement for Photoshop but they are all I need and probably most of the people on this forum need.

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May 15, 2013 13:48:39   #
Samuraiz Loc: Central Florida
 
Brian in Whitby wrote:
You are probably correct on that. However, they provide enough for most photographers.If you are a graphics designer, you would probably have to add Corel Painter and perhaps Corel Draw to do all that CS does.

I suspect that most photographers don't use 40% of the capabilities of of CS. For the most of us The Corel products are all we need. I do know that AfterShot Pro beats the pants off Camera Raw for processing RAW files.

Did you know that PaintShop Pro can use some, maybe all the third party plug-ins that are so popular with Photoshop? It's also possible that since After Shot Pro was an acquisition from Bibble labs, there may also be a "not

I know that the Corel products are not a replacement for Photoshop but they are all I need and probably most of the people on this forum need.
You are probably correct on that. However, they pr... (show quote)


Caution: be certain that After Shot Pro supports the raw files produced by your camera. Also spend some time on the Corel sponsored user forums to determine the ratio of satisfied users.
Many have been waiting a considerable time for Raw support for their camera. Since ASP is advertised as a top notch non- destructive raw editor, I would hope that they would want to support their target market.

Also, since After Shot Pro is an acquisition from Bibble Labs, it's possible that there is a "Not Invented Here" Sentiment.

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May 15, 2013 23:16:00   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
You can';t beat the 30 day free trial to find the answers to most of your questions.
The greatest problem with Corel's products is a much less rich ecosystem. You will not find nearly as many web pages or books teaching you how to use it as you will for Photoshop. However, that will come as more users come on side.

If you are any good at thinking, you can adapt Photoshop tutorials by using similar techniques.

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