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May 8, 2013 01:08:22   #
huskyrider705 Loc: Phenix City, Alabama
 
Just thought some of you might be interested to see the results of this test.
Both shots are with 40mm pancake lens at same distance, focused at same spot on same subject with same settings.
f/2.8
1/25 sec
ISO 1600
Spot metering
Auto white balance
No flash
Under florescent lights on ceiling fan
Cropped photos are both 72dpi and 1475x948 pixels
This test made the decision for me to trade in the 7D and get a longer lens double of what I have now for those longer shots or smaller subjects.

7D original
7D original...

7D cropped
7D cropped...

6D original
6D original...

6D cropped
6D cropped...

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May 8, 2013 02:09:53   #
GWR100 Loc: England
 
Pretty conclusive. Its good to see someone carry out comparisons prior to spending shed loads, and then regretting it. Good on you.

huskyrider705 wrote:
Just thought some of you might be interested to see the results of this test.
Both shots are with 40mm pancake lens at same distance, focused at same spot on same subject with same settings.
f/2.8
1/25 sec
ISO 1600
Spot metering
Auto white balance
No flash
Under florescent lights on ceiling fan
Cropped photos are both 72dpi and 1475x948 pixels
This test made the decision for me to trade in the 7D and get a longer lens double of what I have now for those longer shots or smaller subjects.
Just thought some of you might be interested to se... (show quote)

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May 8, 2013 02:23:42   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
Do you feel this is a fair test since the 7D is a crop sensor and the 6D a full frame sensor? Was the 40mm lens an EF lens on the 7D Camera?

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May 8, 2013 03:33:41   #
Izza1967 Loc: Bristol, England
 
In the crops the 7D looks sharper though noisy with the 6D looking waxy or out of focus ( look at the text on the packaging )

They have different sized sensors so if they are cropped to the same pixel size one has been reduced more than the other, would that make a difference?

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May 8, 2013 06:36:35   #
seeSAW Loc: Western Mass
 
At an ISO of 1600 noise is to be expected. A similar test at an ISO of 400 and a dedicated white balance would be interesting.

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May 8, 2013 09:34:41   #
huskyrider705 Loc: Phenix City, Alabama
 
Bangee5 wrote:
Do you feel this is a fair test since the 7D is a crop sensor and the 6D a full frame sensor? Was the 40mm lens an EF lens on the 7D Camera?


Yes, the 40mm is an EF Lens. An EF lens can be used on a crop sensor camera but an EF-S lens cannot be used on a full frame camera.

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May 8, 2013 09:38:47   #
huskyrider705 Loc: Phenix City, Alabama
 
Bangee5 wrote:
Do you feel this is a fair test since the 7D is a crop sensor and the 6D a full frame sensor? Was the 40mm lens an EF lens on the 7D Camera?


Yes, the 40mm is an EF Lens. An EF lens can be used on a crop sensor camera but an EF-S lens cannot be used on a full frame camera. Actually the 6D was at a disadvantage because it had to be cropped more to bring it to the same size.

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May 8, 2013 10:05:24   #
huskyrider705 Loc: Phenix City, Alabama
 
Izza1967 wrote:
In the crops the 7D looks sharper though noisy with the 6D looking waxy or out of focus ( look at the text on the packaging )

They have different sized sensors so if they are cropped to the same pixel size one has been reduced more than the other, would that make a difference?


Yes the focus was off slightly with the 6D by maybe 1/8" closer for whatever reason. I was using auto-focus on live-view which is a little slow. You are correct about the different sensor size and this puts the 6D at a disadvantage to get the same size image.

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May 8, 2013 10:30:21   #
huskyrider705 Loc: Phenix City, Alabama
 
seeSAW wrote:
At an ISO of 1600 noise is to be expected. A similar test at an ISO of 400 and a dedicated white balance would be interesting.

The higher ISO of 1600 (which is really not that high) was one of the reasons for the test and I felt like the white balance was pretty close and this also showed the minor difference of auto white between the two cameras.
I thought about what you are saying with a lower ISO test after I had already boxed the 7D up for the trade and I'm too lazy to get it back out and then re-box it.
I wish I could keep the 7D but the dealer is giving me $800 trade for it on the lens and I would rather have the longer L glass lens.

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May 8, 2013 10:42:36   #
huskyrider705 Loc: Phenix City, Alabama
 
Izza1967 wrote:
In the crops the 7D looks sharper though noisy with the 6D looking waxy or out of focus ( look at the text on the packaging )

They have different sized sensors so if they are cropped to the same pixel size one has been reduced more than the other, would that make a difference?


After looking again on the focus, I think the 6D is sharper. The focus point was on the bottom of the clothespin and the text may be slightly off with the 6D because of the shallower depth of field.
Does that make sense?

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May 8, 2013 12:06:52   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
huskyrider705 wrote:
Yes, the 40mm is an EF Lens. An EF lens can be used on a crop sensor camera but an EF-S lens cannot be used on a full frame camera. Actually the 6D was at a disadvantage because it had to be cropped more to bring it to the same size.


a EF 40mm lens on the 7D would be the same as a 64mm lens (if there is such a lens). 40x1.6 = 64. 1.6 is the crop factor.

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May 8, 2013 13:07:12   #
huskyrider705 Loc: Phenix City, Alabama
 
Bangee5 wrote:
a EF 40mm lens on the 7D would be the same as a 64mm lens (if there is such a lens). 40x1.6 = 64. 1.6 is the crop factor.


Yes that's right. It would be equivalent in apparent image size to using a 64mm on a full frame camera but it is still a 40mm lens.

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May 8, 2013 21:33:22   #
birdpix Loc: South East Pennsylvania
 
We often confuse pixel quality with picture quality. Sure the 6D produces lower noise at higher ISO's but there are other reasons to choose one camera over another. Much depends on what kind of photography we are doing. The 7D may be a much better camera for action photography with a much higher frame rate. It also has a better AF system for tracking moving subjects because of its 19 point, all cross type, AF sensor system.

Different camera bodies are suited to different purposes. If the 6D suits your type of work, then it is the better camera for you.

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May 8, 2013 22:46:12   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
interesting, I was looking at the 6D but didn't make the jump because of a couple of factors, mostly the cross type focal points the 7D had compared to the 6D.

I am interested in your views on the 40 pancake lens.

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May 9, 2013 09:37:13   #
huskyrider705 Loc: Phenix City, Alabama
 
birdpix wrote:
We often confuse pixel quality with picture quality. Sure the 6D produces lower noise at higher ISO's but there are other reasons to choose one camera over another. Much depends on what kind of photography we are doing. The 7D may be a much better camera for action photography with a much higher frame rate. It also has a better AF system for tracking moving subjects because of its 19 point, all cross type, AF sensor system.

Different camera bodies are suited to different purposes. If the 6D suits your type of work, then it is the better camera for you.
We often confuse pixel quality with picture qualit... (show quote)

Photography is just a hobby for me and I shoot a lot of different things, but mostly wildlife and low light has always been a problem as in late afternoon, overcast or dense foliage. I do miss the 1.6x crop sensor effect but the quality of the 6D photos overrides that to me especially since I use higher ISO a lot. Shooting old buildings and landscape is also much better with the 6D.
I only used the 8fps maybe twice and used the 3fps setting instead so no loss there for me.
I also never used the 19 point auto focus even for tracking birds in flight, I always used center point auto focus and still do, it works for me and I can't tell any difference between the two cameras except the 6D will focus in lower light.
The 7D is a fine camera no doubt, but I like the 6D better after using both.

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