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Mar 2, 2013 14:08:32   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
I would like to look at the Sigma 150-500mm BUT too cheap to blow a grand on more glass right now.
I have a 100-400 Canon lens that is compatible with the extenders.
Has anyone used these things and what might be expected in terms of light loss? 1 stop? 2 stops?
I use this lens primarily for birds and wildlife.
Image degrade with these extenders?

Thanks in advance.
I realize it is better to get closer ( Nike extender) but not always possible with my creaky joints and starboard list.
I just ain't as stealthy as I ustawas.

As always I appreciate your input.

Update on Lensmaster Gimbal, shgould be here this coming week. Rob is a great communicator, tight businessman.
Kept me advised when he received payment, when he sent the gimbal, when I might expect it and tracking number.
Very impressed!

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Mar 2, 2013 14:23:31   #
Swamp Gator Loc: Coastal South Carolina
 
In addition to dropping one to two stops (depending on 1.4 or 2X) You will lose AF using a Canon extender on your 100-400 Canon zoom.
If that's an issue for you.

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Mar 2, 2013 14:34:58   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
Swamp Gator wrote:
In addition to dropping one to two stops (depending on 1.4 or 2X) You will lose AF using a Canon extender on your 100-400 Canon zoom.
If that's an issue for you.



Thanks Phil, I remember seeing that at the camera store, Auto focus is not an issue for me, I grew up on manual 35mm cameras.
BIF would be an issue and a point towards the 150-500.
Bruce

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Mar 2, 2013 15:00:36   #
gordnanaimo Loc: Vancouver Island
 
I Have the 2x extender on my 100-400 lens on my 5d mk11
its only okay. You lose 2 x the fstops so you have to be working in very bright light conditions and with a tripod at all times. The image is still degraded somewhat. The 1.4x adds so little magnification as to make it virtually useless.

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Mar 2, 2013 15:22:08   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
gordnanaimo wrote:
I Have the 2x extender on my 100-400 lens on my 5d mk11
its only okay. You lose 2 x the fstops so you have to be working in very bright light conditions and with a tripod at all times. The image is still degraded somewhat. The 1.4x adds so little magnification as to make it virtually useless.


When shooting I used a 1.5 magnification scope on a pistol and found it very useful ( Thomspson Center Contender, 35 Remington)in shooting silhouttes.
I would imagine the extra reach on the100- 400 to be adequate.
Thanks for your opinion.
Kind of leaning towards the 150-500 but that lens is as slow as my100- 400 with a 1.4 TC more or less.
Image degrading is an issue..

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Mar 2, 2013 15:47:29   #
Swamp Gator Loc: Coastal South Carolina
 
gordnanaimo wrote:
The 1.4x adds so little magnification as to make it virtually useless.


Well the 1.4 makes my 300 a 420 which is a fairly significant increase in reach.
Feel free to check out my photo blog to see what that combo can do. Virtually every photo there was taken using the 300 with the 1.4 attached.

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Mar 2, 2013 15:51:15   #
Swamp Gator Loc: Coastal South Carolina
 
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
gordnanaimo wrote:
I Have the 2x extender on my 100-400 lens on my 5d mk11
its only okay. You lose 2 x the fstops so you have to be working in very bright light conditions and with a tripod at all times. The image is still degraded somewhat. The 1.4x adds so little magnification as to make it virtually useless.


When shooting I used a 1.5 magnification scope on a pistol and found it very useful ( Thomspson Center Contender, 35 Remington)in shooting silhouttes.
I would imagine the extra reach on the100- 400 to be adequate.
Thanks for your opinion.
Kind of leaning towards the 150-500 but that lens is as slow as my100- 400 with a 1.4 TC more or less.
Image degrading is an issue..
quote=gordnanaimo I Have the 2x extender on my 10... (show quote)


I have a scope on the AR but never used one on a pistol.

As far as those lenses go...if I were you I would stick with the 100-400 over the 150-500. You are going to get a drop in IQ with the Sigma.

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Mar 2, 2013 16:15:51   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
Swamp Gator wrote:
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
gordnanaimo wrote:
I Have the 2x extender on my 100-400 lens on my 5d mk11
its only okay. You lose 2 x the fstops so you have to be working in very bright light conditions and with a tripod at all times. The image is still degraded somewhat. The 1.4x adds so little magnification as to make it virtually useless.


When shooting I used a 1.5 magnification scope on a pistol and found it very useful ( Thomspson Center Contender, 35 Remington)in shooting silhouttes.
I would imagine the extra reach on the100- 400 to be adequate.
Thanks for your opinion.
Kind of leaning towards the 150-500 but that lens is as slow as my100- 400 with a 1.4 TC more or less.
Image degrading is an issue..
quote=gordnanaimo I Have the 2x extender on my 10... (show quote)


I have a scope on the AR but never used one on a pistol.

As far as those lenses go...if I were you I would stick with the 100-400 over the 150-500. You are going to get a drop in IQ with the Sigma.
quote=Bruce with a Canon quote=gordnanaimo I Hav... (show quote)


Still struggling with this issue, now I add some more nonsense in to the equation, I see the Sigma 50-500 is faster and looks much more flexible, undoubtbly more hefty in weight and price. From the examples I have seen tack sharp, But the price issue ius a factor. At 1600 bucks more or less. I wonder just how much advantage that glass will have over my 100-400L glass.
400 for a converter vs 4 times that to save 2 f/stops and 70mm more reach.
Sometimes my propensity to procrastinate is my favorite trait, perhaps powerball will smile upon my bank account tonight.

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Mar 2, 2013 16:30:29   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Bruce, one mans useless is another mans treasure.
I use the 100-400+1.4 ALL the time with very good success. I tape my pins and I still get auto focus. Yes it's a little slower. Yes it needs a little more light. But anything beats cropping a shot and loosing all detail.
I've never used the 2x, but it's made for a reason. I think most that tell you not to use it have never actually used one.
If you get the 1.4, get the mkll. The mklll will only be better if using a mkll super tele lenses.
I loaned my 1.4 to a very, very picky purist Photographer friend. He will not even shoot a zoom. But he was desperat to get a tiny bit closer and completely fill his frame with baseball shots. After seeing the fotos, he ordered the 1.4 the next day.
I would not hesitat on the 1.4. I just wish I had first hand info on the 2x for you.

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Mar 2, 2013 17:17:25   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
Swamp Gator wrote:
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
gordnanaimo wrote:
I Have the 2x extender on my 100-400 lens on my 5d mk11
its only okay. You lose 2 x the fstops so you have to be working in very bright light conditions and with a tripod at all times. The image is still degraded somewhat. The 1.4x adds so little magnification as to make it virtually useless.


When shooting I used a 1.5 magnification scope on a pistol and found it very useful ( Thomspson Center Contender, 35 Remington)in shooting silhouttes.
I would imagine the extra reach on the100- 400 to be adequate.
Thanks for your opinion.
Kind of leaning towards the 150-500 but that lens is as slow as my100- 400 with a 1.4 TC more or less.
Image degrading is an issue..
quote=gordnanaimo I Have the 2x extender on my 10... (show quote)


I have a scope on the AR but never used one on a pistol.

As far as those lenses go...if I were you I would stick with the 100-400 over the 150-500. You are going to get a drop in IQ with the Sigma.
quote=Bruce with a Canon quote=gordnanaimo I Hav... (show quote)



Phil the TC contender is a single shot pistol I used to use for hand gun hunting, quite strong as you can imagine shooting rifle ammo. 1.4 scope was perfect chpoice over iron sights due to the size of the targets and long distance.
Many used revolvers with hot loaded 44 mags quite effectively.

I thoink I will go to the camera shop in the morning and screw a 1.4 on my camera and snap a few see how I like it, go from there.

Thank you so kindly for your help!

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Mar 2, 2013 17:22:41   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Bruce, one mans useless is another mans treasure.
I use the 100-400+1.4 ALL the time with very good success. I tape my pins and I still get auto focus. Yes it's a little slower. Yes it needs a little more light. But anything beats cropping a shot and loosing all detail.
I've never used the 2x, but it's made for a reason. I think most that tell you not to use it have never actually used one.
If you get the 1.4, get the mkll. The mklll will only be better if using a mkll super tele lenses.
I loaned my 1.4 to a very, very picky purist Photographer friend. He will not even shoot a zoom. But he was desperat to get a tiny bit closer and completely fill his frame with baseball shots. After seeing the fotos, he ordered the 1.4 the next day.
I would not hesitat on the 1.4. I just wish I had first hand info on the 2x for you.
Bruce, one mans useless is another mans treasure. ... (show quote)


Quite true sir. After excellent feedback provided by yourself I think I will simply take a trip to Cameta in the morning and borrow one and take a few shots in town. Ther results will make the deal or break it.
From most of what I have heard The 1.4 makes the best sense, at least short term.
Thank you again for your help in this very important ( to me) matter!

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Mar 2, 2013 17:45:11   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
SharpShooter wrote:
Bruce, one mans useless is another mans treasure.
I use the 100-400+1.4 ALL the time with very good success. I tape my pins and I still get auto focus. Yes it's a little slower. Yes it needs a little more light. But anything beats cropping a shot and loosing all detail.
I've never used the 2x, but it's made for a reason. I think most that tell you not to use it have never actually used one.
If you get the 1.4, get the mkll. The mklll will only be better if using a mkll super tele lenses.
I loaned my 1.4 to a very, very picky purist Photographer friend. He will not even shoot a zoom. But he was desperat to get a tiny bit closer and completely fill his frame with baseball shots. After seeing the fotos, he ordered the 1.4 the next day.
I would not hesitat on the 1.4. I just wish I had first hand info on the 2x for you.
Bruce, one mans useless is another mans treasure. ... (show quote)


Quite true sir. After excellent feedback provided by yourself I think I will simply take a trip to Cameta in the morning and borrow one and take a few shots in town. Ther results will make the deal or break it.
From most of what I have heard The 1.4 makes the best sense, at least short term.
Thank you again for your help in this very important ( to me) matter!
quote=SharpShooter Bruce, one mans useless is ano... (show quote)



Sir, you are quit welcome, it's not often I get to be of help.
Let us know how it turns out.

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Mar 2, 2013 20:10:53   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
SharpShooter wrote:
Bruce, one mans useless is another mans treasure.
I use the 100-400+1.4 ALL the time with very good success. I tape my pins and I still get auto focus. Yes it's a little slower. Yes it needs a little more light. But anything beats cropping a shot and loosing all detail.
I've never used the 2x, but it's made for a reason. I think most that tell you not to use it have never actually used one.
If you get the 1.4, get the mkll. The mklll will only be better if using a mkll super tele lenses.
I loaned my 1.4 to a very, very picky purist Photographer friend. He will not even shoot a zoom. But he was desperat to get a tiny bit closer and completely fill his frame with baseball shots. After seeing the fotos, he ordered the 1.4 the next day.
I would not hesitat on the 1.4. I just wish I had first hand info on the 2x for you.
Bruce, one mans useless is another mans treasure. ... (show quote)


Quite true sir. After excellent feedback provided by yourself I think I will simply take a trip to Cameta in the morning and borrow one and take a few shots in town. Ther results will make the deal or break it.
From most of what I have heard The 1.4 makes the best sense, at least short term.
Thank you again for your help in this very important ( to me) matter!
quote=SharpShooter Bruce, one mans useless is ano... (show quote)



Sir, you are quit welcome, it's not often I get to be of help.
Let us know how it turns out.
quote=Bruce with a Canon quote=SharpShooter Bruc... (show quote)



I pulled the trigger on the 1.4 II extender, it will be here Thursday. Hope to get my brandy new Gimbal mount this week and pack up the rig and go shoot some birds.
Apprecite the tips, opinions and input!

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Mar 2, 2013 20:24:23   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
SharpShooter wrote:
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
SharpShooter wrote:
Bruce, one mans useless is another mans treasure.
I use the 100-400+1.4 ALL the time with very good success. I tape my pins and I still get auto focus. Yes it's a little slower. Yes it needs a little more light. But anything beats cropping a shot and loosing all detail.
I've never used the 2x, but it's made for a reason. I think most that tell you not to use it have never actually used one.
If you get the 1.4, get the mkll. The mklll will only be better if using a mkll super tele lenses.
I loaned my 1.4 to a very, very picky purist Photographer friend. He will not even shoot a zoom. But he was desperat to get a tiny bit closer and completely fill his frame with baseball shots. After seeing the fotos, he ordered the 1.4 the next day.
I would not hesitat on the 1.4. I just wish I had first hand info on the 2x for you.
Bruce, one mans useless is another mans treasure. ... (show quote)


Quite true sir. After excellent feedback provided by yourself I think I will simply take a trip to Cameta in the morning and borrow one and take a few shots in town. Ther results will make the deal or break it.
From most of what I have heard The 1.4 makes the best sense, at least short term.
Thank you again for your help in this very important ( to me) matter!
quote=SharpShooter Bruce, one mans useless is ano... (show quote)



Sir, you are quit welcome, it's not often I get to be of help.
Let us know how it turns out.
quote=Bruce with a Canon quote=SharpShooter Bruc... (show quote)



I pulled the trigger on the 1.4 II extender, it will be here Thursday. Hope to get my brandy new Gimbal mount this week and pack up the rig and go shoot some birds.
Apprecite the tips, opinions and input!
quote=SharpShooter quote=Bruce with a Canon quo... (show quote)



With a camera, every day is bird season.
Happy shooting.

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Mar 2, 2013 21:21:48   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
SharpShooter wrote:
Bruce with a Canon wrote:
SharpShooter wrote:
Bruce, one mans useless is another mans treasure.
I use the 100-400+1.4 ALL the time with very good success. I tape my pins and I still get auto focus. Yes it's a little slower. Yes it needs a little more light. But anything beats cropping a shot and loosing all detail.
I've never used the 2x, but it's made for a reason. I think most that tell you not to use it have never actually used one.
If you get the 1.4, get the mkll. The mklll will only be better if using a mkll super tele lenses.
I loaned my 1.4 to a very, very picky purist Photographer friend. He will not even shoot a zoom. But he was desperat to get a tiny bit closer and completely fill his frame with baseball shots. After seeing the fotos, he ordered the 1.4 the next day.
I would not hesitat on the 1.4. I just wish I had first hand info on the 2x for you.
Bruce, one mans useless is another mans treasure. ... (show quote)


Quite true sir. After excellent feedback provided by yourself I think I will simply take a trip to Cameta in the morning and borrow one and take a few shots in town. Ther results will make the deal or break it.
From most of what I have heard The 1.4 makes the best sense, at least short term.
Thank you again for your help in this very important ( to me) matter!
quote=SharpShooter Bruce, one mans useless is ano... (show quote)



Sir, you are quit welcome, it's not often I get to be of help.
Let us know how it turns out.
quote=Bruce with a Canon quote=SharpShooter Bruc... (show quote)



I pulled the trigger on the 1.4 II extender, it will be here Thursday. Hope to get my brandy new Gimbal mount this week and pack up the rig and go shoot some birds.
Apprecite the tips, opinions and input!
quote=SharpShooter quote=Bruce with a Canon quo... (show quote)



With a camera, every day is bird season.
Happy shooting.
quote=Bruce with a Canon quote=SharpShooter quo... (show quote)


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