Posts: PhilP | Ugly Hedgehog

tdekany wrote:

You also need to be open minded. Maybe “for you” there isn’t, but many wouldn’t go “back” to a mirrored camera. I can use my camera’s electric shutter handheld, no need for locking up a mirror and have the camera on a tripod.

You are correct. For me, there is little need to go back to mirrorless that I left some time ago. Using the Nikon mirror up is a no brainer. The first first click swings the mirror. The second fires the shutter. Coupled with EFSC (DX, D810, D850) and a good Nikor VR, hand helds are simple and quiet. Admittedly, I shoot a lot photomicrographs and hand held/rail stacked macros. I have compared mirrorless and an 810. The results are virtually indistinguishable in the perceived motion column. The image quality for the D800's series are among the best FF DSLRS ever made. Side by side tests have shown that time and time again. Video is equally simple and accurate.

Oct 17, 2017 21:13:18 #

But you do have to buy lenses. I'd suggest that those be FX lenses. One could end up wit a drawer full of useless lenses if they decide on a full frame later.

Oct 16, 2017 21:57:37 #

Little need for mirrorless. The D810 and D850 have mirror lockup and more importantly electronic front shutter curtain.

Oct 16, 2017 19:44:30 #

selmslie wrote:

Stacking is useful for macro and micro photography. Landscape photographers don't bother with it.

Wow... I didn't know that. I guess other photographers don't either.

https://digital-photography-school.com/getting-landscapes-sharp-focus-stacking/

https://iso.500px.com/tutorial-focus-stacking-for-landscape-photography/

https://www.photolisticlife.com/2016/11/05/how-and-why-focus-stacking-landscape-photography/

http://www.alexwisephotography.net/blog/2017/03/12/landscape-photography-tip-shutter-stacking/

https://scottwyden.com/focus-stacking/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi2eM4fXN8w

https://www.capturelandscapes.com/ultimate-focus-stacking-guide/

Oct 16, 2017 19:10:24 #

Bill_de wrote:

If you really think that I created a new ID for your benefit you have a very, very exaggerated view of your importance. You wouldn't be worth the effort.

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BTW - Thanks for the link. I see what the problem is ... it's your sub standard reading comprehension.

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DITTO!!

Oct 16, 2017 19:02:47 #

selmslie wrote:

There is only one plane of focus. Everything closer to or further from the camera becomes progressively less sharp until it becomes obvious at the DOF limits.

Congratulations! You finally figured out the reason to use stacking. As a photomacrographer and photomicographer, I started using stacking nearly 15 years ago. Shortly, I found how amazing the effect stacking does to landscape and architectural shots. It can create a nearly 3D effect even with an open aperture. Perhaps you should try it sometime. Maybe you'll even learn something.

There is still many, many reasons to use a higher ISO in poor lighting situations. To properly capture moving vehicles, people, etc., etc. I'll still take a higher ISO cam every time as long as the noise is also reduced. The D850 is that precisely.

Oct 16, 2017 15:33:40 #

selmslie wrote:

Stacking is useless for landscape. You are usually focused on infinity.

High ISO is also useless for landscape. You should be shooting landscape close to base ISO.

I disagree on both points. I want a huge DOF in many landscape shots. An infinity focus blurs out much of the foreground that I'm looking for in the finished shot.

There are times of the day/night when a high ISO is very useful to complete the shot.

Oct 16, 2017 14:25:50 #

The D850's stacking function may make it the choice. The added ISO speed may also be useful to a landscape photographer. The issue at the moment is finding one for sale.

Another issue may be that this is a full frame (FX) camera. If you have DX (APSc) lenses, you will likely find them just about worthless with the D850