He lied to congress. That is against the law.

That would help. They also should not cancel classes.

When they are forcing schools to cancel classes it is no longer peaceful protest.

Protesting is fine. Blocking access for others to get to class is not fine and threatening and harassing those who are not involved is clearly not OK.

Isn't it interesting that the naysayers are telling us to either get closer or use a bigger lens instead of an extender.

Sometimes you just can't get closer and there are very linited choices of bigger lenses. The biggest lens I can find that Nikon makes is an 800 f6.3. Both your shots were 1200mm + and mine were 1120mm. Last I heard to get a good quality lens that big requires at least one tc, and may require stacking tcs.

I hope for that as well but am less optimitix than you that it will occur.

They do not have clean hands in the court of puvlic oppinion, but each time their is a co flict Israel does not start it. The court of public oppinion does not appear to believe that Israel should have the right to defend themselves.

As to surgical strikes or not I bekieve that is their intent. You and I bith know that Hamas hides among civilians so if you try to attack Hamas you get civilians. No one in their right mind should take the Palestinian Authority's word for anything. They are proven liars. Look at the hospital they hit with their own rocket and tried to blame Israel for. Israel has made many mistakes, but defending themswlves aggressively is not one of them.

You are correct that we see things very differently. I understand that you have gone back and looked at some of the history, which most who are condemning Israel have not, and I appreciate that.

Unfortunately I think that in many cases you are looking at the wrong articles and are not going back far enough.

You have cited the Oslo Accords more than once and yes the PLO finally accepted Israels right to exist and then the Palestinians chose an even more radical government. The only Palestinians I really feel sorry for are the small group of Palestinian Christians that have been persecuted by Hamas and now have to endure the attack from Israel as well. If the Palestinians don't want women and children to die all they have to do is stop hiding within the general populace and return the hostages. If they do that Israel will finish destroying all the tunnels and leave. Thats on them.

No we don't know that. If they do not believe tjat they shouldn't be associating with them but they are not only associating them they are surrounding the bad apples to make it hard for police to support them. To me and many others that means they are on the same side.

On top of that there have been multiple interviews with some of tje :more moderate" protesters and they refuse to condemn Hamas. If they are condemning Israel and not Hamas then they are siding with Hamas.

The college students are wrong. They are suoporting Hamas and Iran. Whether they know it or not they are suooorting evil.

Iran won't end the war. They wanted it, they funded it and they trained Hamas.

I don't understand how you can recognize that if Hamas is gone they will get some otjer terrorist group to tale their place and still say theee are innocents involves. They are just teaching thos innocents to hate Israel too.

I really don't know what else Israel was supposted to do. If they.don't go after Hamas the attacks will never end and if they do the world suddenly decides they are the bad guys.

Iran and Hamas are evil. That is just a fact that shiuld enter into the equation, yet our college students are siding with evil that has publicly stated their desire to destroy both Israel and us. It is lunacy no matter how badly you feel for the Palestinian people. The vast majority of them brought this on themselves.

Its not like Israel is targeting women and children. They are targeting Hamas so they are hiding in the middle of women and children.

You are correct about the world comdemning Israel. I just don't get why. Every nation who is condemning them would have attacked just like Israel assuming the same provacation.

If you look at the post you made you will note that South Africa refused to condemn Hamas just like most other nations in the U.N. If everyone on the side of the Palestinians took the positiin you are there might be room for discussion and compromise, but that is not the position being taken. Most refuse to condemn Hamas or even to demand that they return the hostages.

Your previous post from the New York Times admitted that the numbers of dead Palestinians is suspect because of who is providing the data, so it is likely that the number of ci ilians killed is badky inflated. On top of that their nbers do not refkect how many of the dead are actually civilians rather than combatants.

There is another problem with yiur anakysis as well and that is that Hamas is not just a terrorist organization, it is also the duly elected government.

One other important fact that is being ignored. This attack was timed purely to stip the peace treaty that Israel and Saudi Arabia were about to sign.

Regardless of how well intentioned the protesters might be whether they know it or not they are supporting Iran who is clearly an enemy of the U.S. Even assuming Israel has no moral high ground, which I dispute, they are still on the side of a group that regularly chants death to Israel and death to the United States.

You and the protesters do not seem to get that Hamas is the Palestinians.

Yes. That is easy to find on line. Just google who is funding the campus protests.

It would be easy to end. All universities have to do is make it clear that students can only protest during certain hours and can not threaten other students, which is supposed to already be the rules on most campuses, then kick anyone out of school that does not follow the rules.

Now wouldn't that be simple. The students don't appear to even know what they are saying. How can anyone legitimately consider Israel to be the aggressors when Hamas fired the first shots and did it in an extremely barbaric way including burning people to death, killing infants in microwaves and raping individuals.

Israel has done nothing even remotely comparable. The fact that the college students are sincere does not make them correct. And either they do not know the meaning of what they are chanting or they are part of the problem. "From the river to the sea" is about ending the nation of Israel forever and giving Palestinians all of the land now held by both Palestinians and Israel.

That is not a rationale or just position to take. Those students are flat out wrong, even assuming that Israel is culpable for part of what is happening. I personally do not believe they are. The Palestinians were allies of NAZI Germany and they are still attempting to exterminate Jews. How can any rationale person in the U.S. take that side?

Very funny. I'm aware that I do not type well on a cell phone. My hands are big and the keys are little so I make mistakes. How about instead of ridicule you offer something constructive to the conversation.

Yes, but Palestine rejected the Oslo Accords. That was on them.

It is just terrorists on their own soil. More than 70 percent of the Palestinians voted for Hamas and they still support them, so they are siding with the terrorists. That makes them part of the terrorist problem. The only reason not to just bonb away is because they would still like to rescue the hostages.

The bigger problem that you still choose not to address is that they refuse to acknowledge the right of Israel to exist. How do you negotiate with someone who takes that stance? The Palestinians have never had their own nation, and when Israel was first recognized they had options of places to settle and chose not to take them.

As to Germany being OK with Jews existing their that might be true, but the reason the Palestinians were so eager to ally with Germany was because they wanted to eradicate Jews just like Germany, and tjat is still their wish.