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Dec 10, 2021 12:40:05   #
Not only that but he hinted that the gold star families might have given him the virus even though he knew he was infected before the meetings with them. Sick puppy!
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Dec 9, 2019 11:44:53   #
A great way to achieve fab closeups is, once you have a macro lens, buy a cheap reversing ring and step rings and any good 50mm standard lens even old ones in good shape optically. Reverse that 50 onto your macro lens with the 50mm aperture wide open. This will also work with any lens with close focusing capabilities. The results will speak for themselves. A focusing rail would be another great addition for fine incremental focus. You don't need an expensive one just a rugged one. Some sell for $30 or less. and the reversing/step rings are dirt cheap. Good luck.
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Dec 9, 2019 11:24:30   #
I agree with the member who suggested upgrading lenses. The difference that move will make will far exceed what switching to a FF and using the same lenses will accomplish. I strongly suggest adding some standard lenses or what are referred to as prime. Maybe a 50 1.4 an 85 1.4 and a 100 2.8 macro which will serve double duty. And don't shy away from third party lenses, especially the Sigma Art line and the Tamron with VC line. Good luck.
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Oct 12, 2012 12:04:24   #
I really hope you're right. But how can anyone know what they plan to do if they stay so darned closed-mouthed. Still no details from Romney/Ryan. There is also Soc Sec which is a big deal for severely disabled vets. When someone holds their cards so close to the vest, I don't trust that they aren't slippin in an ace or two from the sleeve. I'm concerned because these newbie disabled vets deserve at least what we VN vets had. They've earned all of it. I see these two rich kids as having little or no idea how the lives of regular and disadvantaged folks will fare from cuts or restructuring of programs like these. And, I don't think they care much either. They've said so already. One when the cameras were rolling and one with the cameras seemingly absent. They seem to disdain folks who aren't wealthy and priviledged. I think they are a couple of spoiled brats. IMHO of course.

BW326 wrote:
docrob wrote:
Yes, of course. Romney and Ryan are too smart to mention the "third rail of the VA" during an election year. Which is why we won't hear about it till it's not an election year....too late then though ain't it?

Gosh ya think there might be a plan.......

And just exactly what do you think would happen if they do decide to touch that 'third rail' after taking office? How many republicans do you think would survive the interim 2 year elections. They'd win a small battle (for them) and end up losing the war. How long would it take them to get their hard won momentum back.... You don't give career politicians enough credit.
quote=docrob Yes, of course. Romney and Ryan are... (show quote)
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Oct 12, 2012 06:26:46   #
I thought his performance was very Romney like. Except for the lies. Meanwhile water boy was scared crapless that he might reveal any info on the "plan" It was a child dealing with a man and he was spanked soundly. I enjoyed it very much.

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Oct 12, 2012 06:21:52   #
Wow! Take it down a notch or two. You're way too excited LOL I'm not gonna keep tearing you a new one. You're a liar and you buy the lies from your heroes. No amount of logic could ever penetrate that kind of blind loyalty. It's pathetic that you feel you must make crap up about me because you can't deal with someone who voices opposing views to your own. Like I said (you know like I REALLY said:) it's pathetic and not worth any more of my time. I'm puttin you on my ignore list. So, wail away as much as you like. And enjoy the next four years of the Obama presidency.

Hal81 wrote:
Im so happy about this I doubled post.
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Oct 12, 2012 00:53:52   #
Oh, I can stand the heat alright. No right wing sniper is gonna drive me away. Unlike some Dems on here, I fight back. It's only fair and balanced Isn't it?

Hal81 wrote:
Wick wrote:
Then stop responding to me and stop trying to bait me. Very easy to do. Deal?


Hal81 wrote:
Wick wrote:
You sound like Romney or Yogi Berra. "I didn't say what I just said." Your list of my supposed insults was about 8 to 10 words long. I offered to pay you $100 for each one I did say if you will do the same with those I did not say. You wanna turn down $800-1,000? You must have lots o' money. But I know why you won't take me up on it. Because you LIED and you don't wanna fess up. Why do you obsess about me so much? Do I threaten you somehow? It's not my intention but I refuse to be lied about or insulted without taking it on directly. I'm willing to drop it if you will apologize for the lies. Deal?


Hal81 wrote:
Wick wrote:
That's about what I figured you'd say. You sir are a bald face liar.

Hal81 wrote:
Wick wrote:
By the way. I'm still waiting for my apology for thr lies you posted on here. I'll make you a deal. I'll print out and send you a transcript of every word I've uttered on this site. For every word you ascribed to me that I've actually said, I'll pay you $100.00 For every word I didn't say you'll give me $100. And, additionally, For every word on your BS list that you right wingers have called me You'll pay $100. Deal? Or are you gonna hide from your lies like your hero?

Hal81 wrote:
thegrover wrote:
Hal81 wrote:
thegrover wrote:
I am a Vietnam Vet, a VA patient and a Volunteer at the Long Beach VA. I have had over 80 appointments in the last year. Several surgeries and more than a month of hospital stays in the VA. I Love the VA. It is the best care possible. In the last three years I have seen a lot of improvement. I would dread having to use private health care compared to the VA. This is the number one reason me a life long republican is voting for Obama.

Before anyone attacks me personally I will let you know I have BS in mechanical engineering, and a MBA. I am free of all religious myth and superstition. Which of course means I have higher moral standards and value life, try to be the best person I can be
because this life is all we have. My beliefs in reason in logic are very strong. I accept reality and do not need any religious crutch.
I am a Vietnam Vet, a VA patient and a Volunteer a... (show quote)



Dont worry pal it will never happen. Im a Korean vet. And my vote gos to mitt. Not that I like him. But we got to get ob out before he dose any more damage to this country.
quote=thegrover I am a Vietnam Vet, a VA patient ... (show quote)


As I recall the damage was eight years of Bush who I voted for twice. Obama inherited a train wreck and the Republicans have been willing to throw the country under a bus in order to derail him.
quote=Hal81 quote=thegrover I am a Vietnam Vet, ... (show quote)


I also voted for Bush and he disapointed me. But this guy makes Bush look like mother terresa. Four more years of him we wont have a country left to save. Vote him out.
quote=thegrover quote=Hal81 quote=thegrover I a... (show quote)
By the way. I'm still waiting for my apology for ... (show quote)


Wick Wick Wick Here you go again. Missinformed. Ob is the biggest lier on two feet. Why are you defending him? And keep your money . Youll need it if Ob gets in for another term.
quote=Wick By the way. I'm still waiting for my ... (show quote)
That's about what I figured you'd say. You sir ar... (show quote)


I do not lie sir. You on the other hand lie threw your teeth so much you think others do the same. Your hero in the white house is the bald face lier. Quote" I WILL FIX THE ECONEMEY." He put it in the tank. Vote him out.
quote=Wick That's about what I figured you'd say.... (show quote)
You sound like Romney or Yogi Berra. "I didn... (show quote)


You better hang on tight to your $100s youll need it if Obummer gets in again. Its OB im calling a lier. I care not what you say . You can lie all youi want. You are lying to your self. I care not what comes out of your mouth.
quote=Wick You sound like Romney or Yogi Berra. ... (show quote)
Then stop responding to me and stop trying to bait... (show quote)


If you cant take the heat get out of the kit. Ill stop if you stop. If you ans Ill keep comming back.
quote=Wick Then stop responding to me and stop tr... (show quote)
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Oct 11, 2012 23:54:57   #
Really? Why? And what's with the water drinking? Was your guy dehydrated or something? Lies? That's Romney/Ryans stock in trade. Why are they so afraid of tax returns and specifics? Just curious.

Screamin Scott wrote:
Biden came off as a rude pompous ass. Very unprofessional. Spewed lies & misconceptions. I guess he figures that if he tells them often enough, everyone will believe him (kinda like the Dems on this thread)
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Oct 11, 2012 23:49:39   #
Then stop responding to me and stop trying to bait me. Very easy to do. Deal?


Hal81 wrote:
Wick wrote:
You sound like Romney or Yogi Berra. "I didn't say what I just said." Your list of my supposed insults was about 8 to 10 words long. I offered to pay you $100 for each one I did say if you will do the same with those I did not say. You wanna turn down $800-1,000? You must have lots o' money. But I know why you won't take me up on it. Because you LIED and you don't wanna fess up. Why do you obsess about me so much? Do I threaten you somehow? It's not my intention but I refuse to be lied about or insulted without taking it on directly. I'm willing to drop it if you will apologize for the lies. Deal?


Hal81 wrote:
Wick wrote:
That's about what I figured you'd say. You sir are a bald face liar.

Hal81 wrote:
Wick wrote:
By the way. I'm still waiting for my apology for thr lies you posted on here. I'll make you a deal. I'll print out and send you a transcript of every word I've uttered on this site. For every word you ascribed to me that I've actually said, I'll pay you $100.00 For every word I didn't say you'll give me $100. And, additionally, For every word on your BS list that you right wingers have called me You'll pay $100. Deal? Or are you gonna hide from your lies like your hero?

Hal81 wrote:
thegrover wrote:
Hal81 wrote:
thegrover wrote:
I am a Vietnam Vet, a VA patient and a Volunteer at the Long Beach VA. I have had over 80 appointments in the last year. Several surgeries and more than a month of hospital stays in the VA. I Love the VA. It is the best care possible. In the last three years I have seen a lot of improvement. I would dread having to use private health care compared to the VA. This is the number one reason me a life long republican is voting for Obama.

Before anyone attacks me personally I will let you know I have BS in mechanical engineering, and a MBA. I am free of all religious myth and superstition. Which of course means I have higher moral standards and value life, try to be the best person I can be
because this life is all we have. My beliefs in reason in logic are very strong. I accept reality and do not need any religious crutch.
I am a Vietnam Vet, a VA patient and a Volunteer a... (show quote)



Dont worry pal it will never happen. Im a Korean vet. And my vote gos to mitt. Not that I like him. But we got to get ob out before he dose any more damage to this country.
quote=thegrover I am a Vietnam Vet, a VA patient ... (show quote)


As I recall the damage was eight years of Bush who I voted for twice. Obama inherited a train wreck and the Republicans have been willing to throw the country under a bus in order to derail him.
quote=Hal81 quote=thegrover I am a Vietnam Vet, ... (show quote)


I also voted for Bush and he disapointed me. But this guy makes Bush look like mother terresa. Four more years of him we wont have a country left to save. Vote him out.
quote=thegrover quote=Hal81 quote=thegrover I a... (show quote)
By the way. I'm still waiting for my apology for ... (show quote)


Wick Wick Wick Here you go again. Missinformed. Ob is the biggest lier on two feet. Why are you defending him? And keep your money . Youll need it if Ob gets in for another term.
quote=Wick By the way. I'm still waiting for my ... (show quote)
That's about what I figured you'd say. You sir ar... (show quote)


I do not lie sir. You on the other hand lie threw your teeth so much you think others do the same. Your hero in the white house is the bald face lier. Quote" I WILL FIX THE ECONEMEY." He put it in the tank. Vote him out.
quote=Wick That's about what I figured you'd say.... (show quote)
You sound like Romney or Yogi Berra. "I didn... (show quote)


You better hang on tight to your $100s youll need it if Obummer gets in again. Its OB im calling a lier. I care not what you say . You can lie all youi want. You are lying to your self. I care not what comes out of your mouth.
quote=Wick You sound like Romney or Yogi Berra. ... (show quote)
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Oct 11, 2012 23:19:41   #
You sound like Romney or Yogi Berra. "I didn't say what I just said." Your list of my supposed insults was about 8 to 10 words long. I offered to pay you $100 for each one I did say if you will do the same with those I did not say. You wanna turn down $800-1,000? You must have lots o' money. But I know why you won't take me up on it. Because you LIED and you don't wanna fess up. Why do you obsess about me so much? Do I threaten you somehow? It's not my intention but I refuse to be lied about or insulted without taking it on directly. I'm willing to drop it if you will apologize for the lies. Deal?


Hal81 wrote:
Wick wrote:
That's about what I figured you'd say. You sir are a bald face liar.

Hal81 wrote:
Wick wrote:
By the way. I'm still waiting for my apology for thr lies you posted on here. I'll make you a deal. I'll print out and send you a transcript of every word I've uttered on this site. For every word you ascribed to me that I've actually said, I'll pay you $100.00 For every word I didn't say you'll give me $100. And, additionally, For every word on your BS list that you right wingers have called me You'll pay $100. Deal? Or are you gonna hide from your lies like your hero?

Hal81 wrote:
thegrover wrote:
Hal81 wrote:
thegrover wrote:
I am a Vietnam Vet, a VA patient and a Volunteer at the Long Beach VA. I have had over 80 appointments in the last year. Several surgeries and more than a month of hospital stays in the VA. I Love the VA. It is the best care possible. In the last three years I have seen a lot of improvement. I would dread having to use private health care compared to the VA. This is the number one reason me a life long republican is voting for Obama.

Before anyone attacks me personally I will let you know I have BS in mechanical engineering, and a MBA. I am free of all religious myth and superstition. Which of course means I have higher moral standards and value life, try to be the best person I can be
because this life is all we have. My beliefs in reason in logic are very strong. I accept reality and do not need any religious crutch.
I am a Vietnam Vet, a VA patient and a Volunteer a... (show quote)



Dont worry pal it will never happen. Im a Korean vet. And my vote gos to mitt. Not that I like him. But we got to get ob out before he dose any more damage to this country.
quote=thegrover I am a Vietnam Vet, a VA patient ... (show quote)


As I recall the damage was eight years of Bush who I voted for twice. Obama inherited a train wreck and the Republicans have been willing to throw the country under a bus in order to derail him.
quote=Hal81 quote=thegrover I am a Vietnam Vet, ... (show quote)


I also voted for Bush and he disapointed me. But this guy makes Bush look like mother terresa. Four more years of him we wont have a country left to save. Vote him out.
quote=thegrover quote=Hal81 quote=thegrover I a... (show quote)
By the way. I'm still waiting for my apology for ... (show quote)


Wick Wick Wick Here you go again. Missinformed. Ob is the biggest lier on two feet. Why are you defending him? And keep your money . Youll need it if Ob gets in for another term.
quote=Wick By the way. I'm still waiting for my ... (show quote)
That's about what I figured you'd say. You sir ar... (show quote)


I do not lie sir. You on the other hand lie threw your teeth so much you think others do the same. Your hero in the white house is the bald face lier. Quote" I WILL FIX THE ECONEMEY." He put it in the tank. Vote him out.
quote=Wick That's about what I figured you'd say.... (show quote)
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Oct 11, 2012 23:09:41   #
Well, the rich kid got his behind handed to him. He made some good points but as usual, no specifics on the tax plan. But, very telling was the fact that he did not deny or denounce that the Loopholes included the things we dems figured he'd attack. Mort interest ded. Healthcare ded. Education Ded. etc. Seems the only way to know what they're up to is to look for the denial and if it isn't there then you've discovered another facit of the "plan".
Why do these guys need another tax break at the expense of the little guy? Another thing that was glaring was his position on women's healthcare and abortion. Two days ago Romney stated that overturning Rowe v Wade was not part of the agenda. And like always, the truth is revealed and we see gov't in the bedroom again. Reminds me of Ralph Reed and those creeps of the moral majority.
Go Obama and Thanks Joe!
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Oct 11, 2012 19:30:56   #
I think we'll see a robotic performance vs. a warm and engaging Biden. And, maybe I'LL hear finally just what those convictions are. He has some splainin' to do and Biden will give him the time. I don't dislike them (Romney/Ryan) because of policy positions as much as the secrecy of Tax returns, Abortion issues, Loophole closings, Tax policy in general etc. I'm so sick of hearing them take 3 sides of each issue. How is anyone supposed to know what the heck they stand for when they keep etch a sketchin' around?

Blurryeyed wrote:
Wick wrote:
I respect your position but Ryan is goin' DOWN tonight Biden won't allow him to dodge the issues and the specifics of the tax plan nor the specifics regarding loophole closings. He'll give em' all the time he needs to hang himself.

BTW I looked at your website with my wife and daughter. We were all blown away. Great work.

Blurryeyed wrote:
Wizz wrote:
I am looking forward to the dabate tonight!


Yeppers!, the Obama campaign came out and tried to blame the political fallout on the Romney campaign for politicizing the Libyan attack.... Seems to me that the Obama campaign could not help themselves from jumping all over Romney of his comments regarding free speech and the video.... Then they spent the next month lying to the American people and did not come out with the truth until 2 days ago just ahead of the Congressional Hearing.... Seems to me all the lies and deceptions coming out of the White House has served to politicize the event much more so than anything that Romney and Ryan have said or done.

Picked up the popcorn earlier, gonna enjoy this...
quote=Wizz I am looking forward to the dabate ton... (show quote)
I respect your position but Ryan is goin' DOWN ton... (show quote)


Thanks for the compliment, I posted some stuff over on the macro forum today that is pretty good.

We'll see how the debate goes, Biden does know how to tone down the rhetoric and seem sane, no doubt, Ryan is a friggin walking calculator, my biggest worry for him is that he gets to deep in the weeds on some of his answers, but I am not afraid of the facts, I would disagree that there are any facts on the president's side, only emotions, it is up to Ryan to inspire a vision of economic recovery and how that can happen, he understands his principles and he believes in what it is that he wants to accomplish.. Therein lies the difference between the two men, I would not be over confident were I you.
quote=Wick I respect your position but Ryan is go... (show quote)
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Oct 11, 2012 19:23:41   #
If Biden is on message tonight the american public will finally understand that the only stuff that will "Trickle Down" on them will be warm and amber in color.

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Oct 11, 2012 18:04:40   #
Thanks for the thumbs up Grover. We can't leave poor and elderly behind for the sake of enriching the ultra rich. I hope america comes to its senses and gets over a poor debate performance. At least he didn't lie his buttcheeks off.
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Oct 11, 2012 18:01:38   #
I respect your position but Ryan is goin' DOWN tonight Biden won't allow him to dodge the issues and the specifics of the tax plan nor the specifics regarding loophole closings. He'll give em' all the time he needs to hang himself.

BTW I looked at your website with my wife and daughter. We were all blown away. Great work.

Blurryeyed wrote:
Wizz wrote:
I am looking forward to the dabate tonight!


Yeppers!, the Obama campaign came out and tried to blame the political fallout on the Romney campaign for politicizing the Libyan attack.... Seems to me that the Obama campaign could not help themselves from jumping all over Romney of his comments regarding free speech and the video.... Then they spent the next month lying to the American people and did not come out with the truth until 2 days ago just ahead of the Congressional Hearing.... Seems to me all the lies and deceptions coming out of the White House has served to politicize the event much more so than anything that Romney and Ryan have said or done.

Picked up the popcorn earlier, gonna enjoy this...
quote=Wizz I am looking forward to the dabate ton... (show quote)
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