To any half way astute observer it should be apparent that virtually no one comes to these forums to learn anything: In this post for instance Doc Rob cites Huffington post, an extreme left wing pub to make his point. Joe Horenkamp points us to Dinesh O'Souza's 2016 to prove the opposite. Both fellows engage in an act of utter futility because no one comes here to learn anything. They come here to try to convince someone of opposite polarity that they are wrong and need to be enlightened.

Just about everyone who comes here already has an unshakeable opinion of who they are going to vote for. They do not come here to learn anything and are in fact, are very opposed to exposing themselves to anything which might cause them to doubt their pre formed opinion.

I come here to amuse myself, learn new insults for my insult catalog or to reaffirm my belief that trying to influence the opinion of anyone here is like pissing into a very strong wind.

Yes, as a matter of fact my children (36 and 33 years young) are having fun, thank you very much. Try it some time, you might like it. Although a youngster by Rich's standard (I'm a mere 62), I am learning one very valuable lesson in life......."We do not stop playing because we grow old. We grow old (and crochety) because we stop playing."

Don't waste your time worrying about how I and others use our time. Believe me, I'm OK (as are the scores of others on this thread). You'll be much better off finding what you like and pursuing it than finding and criticizing those things you don't like.

While we live in the digital age, its really good to see so many 'Purist' photographers, me included. Yes I have photoshop, yes I use it ocassionally, but as many here have said, I try and get as much right at the time of shooting the image as I can. I think many of us want to be good photographers, not good manipulators, so keep using what you learn, and keep learning through applying what you know and what you experience. To me it appears there are many photographers out there who are artists more than photographers. They are very good at post production stuff and the images look bright, vibrant, enticing, but its not real, nice but not real. While I have one foot gently in that camp, my other foot has most of my weight on it and thats in the recording reality camp, that of the photographer, not the manipulator :)

I know this is probably a dumb question but...I am volunteering at a camp for homeless children in NY state and left my manual at home. I have a NikonD60 and want to zoom in on a picture already taken. I have done this before but can't seem to repeat it. I believe I use the trim feature but it doesn't give me an option to save the "new" pic. Would appreciate any help. If I remember it is pretty simple. When I go home for a break I'll get my manual but I'd like to give the children some photos before then. Thanks in advance for your help.

> The Pope and Obama are on the same stage in Yankee Stadium in
> front of a huge crowd.
>
> The Pope leans towards President Obama and said, "Do you know
> that with one little wave of my hand I can make every person in
> this crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary
> display, but will go deep into their hearts and they'll forever
> speak of this day and rejoice!"
>
> Obama replied, "I seriously doubt that! With one little wave of
> your hand....Show me!"
>
> So the Pope backhanded him and knocked him off the stage!
>
> AND THE CROWD ROARED & CHEERED WILDLY and there was happiness
> throughout the land!
>
> Kind of brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it?
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Sorry, I was forced into posting this.... The Devil made me do it..................................................................................


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Ok guys, I am very stressed out and would love some suggestions. A friend of mine is getting married on the beach at 6:00 in the evening and wants me to shoot her wedding. Our sand here is Very White. Looks like snow and I told her I do not do weddings and the light will be very harsh. There will be 2 of us shooting this and we are both concerned about the lighting. we would love suggestions because neither of us do weddings. Too much stress if we mess up. Told her we didn't want to do it but she has insisted........

If they show the video you are talking about I was not able to find it .