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Apr 20, 2022 08:10:35   #
MDI Mainer wrote:
Christian Irmler, an Austrian landscape photographer and painter has written a thought-provoking piece for Fstoppers in which he argues that the current state-of-the-art in image stabilization and sensor performance at high ISOs may have made tripods obsolete. Fstoppers is an online community and resource which reaches 1.5 million photographers each month.

As he provocatively put it a tripod may have "become a relic from a time with poor technology." (He does acknowledge that a tripod is still necessary for focus stacking and can serve as a useful aid to thoughtful composition.)

Given the frequent (some might go so far as to say obsessive) discussion of tripods on UHH (to which I will plead guilty to some degree) I think the question merits further dialog.

My personal conclusion is that ponderously heavy, stable (and expensive tripods) are no longer the critical tool they once were, and that the still-useful functions of a tripod can be fulfilled by lighter and more portable gear.
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I think he answers the question in the title of his article in his summary:

"This is why tripods will maybe never become obsolete for me, even when image stabilization is able to stabilize 20 stops and when we can use ISO 50,000 without any noise. It will always be in my bag, unless I forget it, of course." Which he wrote specifically pointing to the value of a tripod in compositional fine tuning, but which can easily be expanded to include other types of photography.

The simple answer is nope.

https://fstoppers.com/landscapes/have-tripods-become-obsolete-601694

You may be in a small minority when you state that a three pound tripod is "excessive." In fact, a three pound tripod is often considered a travel tripod because it is light and small. And when carefully used with short focal lengths, can be indispensable for reducing camera movement at low shutter speeds, or allowing for partial subject movement (moving water, people/animal blurring to accentuate movement while keeping everything else crisp and sharp). But a three pounder does have some limitations - and those directly impact shooting with longer lenses or at very high magnifications.

In general use, a tripod is very helpful for macro/closeup, long lens use (landscape, wildlife etc), night sky photography, light painting, time lapse, remote operation, in studio use to preserve a particular composition when shooting different subjects (people and or product), etc etc etc. Lots of uses which stabilization and low noise/high ISO can't duplicate.

On the other hand, "ponderously heavy" is a relative term. In the big picture, it would likely be used to describe an aluminum Bogen 3051+3047 pan/tilt head - that would be about 15 lbs. Or an old Gitzo steel and aluminum Studex, or Majestic which would come in around 18 lbs or higher. Somewhere in between the 3 lb travel tripod and these old monsters are the high performance carbon fiber leg sets that come in between 4 lbs and 6 lbs most of which totally outperform the old metal stuff at a fraction of the weight, which is still far short of "ponderously heavy". If you shoot wildlife with long heavy lenses, a tripod simply makes a longer day possible when you consider physical stamina as well as stability when using longer shutter speeds. And while not completely critical with some of the newer lighter long lenses, certainly helpful especially when the shooter has strength and stability issues.

To this point, after acquiring a Sigma Sport 150-600 in hopes of being able to ditch the tripod and heavy (600mmF4) lens I was pleasantly surprised. Below, the first two images show the results of testing with hand holding at ridiculously slow shutter speeds. The cat was at a distance of about 20 ft, and a shutter speed of 1/25 sec, F8 and ISO 400. But this is a special case, since cats cat completely freeze their motion. Had it been a bird, as we way in NY - fuggedaboudit! The second image was of a young heron, taken with a tripod mounted 12mp crop camera, 600mmF4+1.4X TC, F8 1/10 sec, ISO 400. The equivalent focal length was 1260mm. Everything was static, including the bird, with only its right leg in motion. A shot like this would have been impossible, even with today's state of the art sensors and mechanical stabilization and software.

So I mostly agree with Irmler - good shots that would have required a tripod in the past can still be made without one thanks to improved tech and better software. But there are times when I know from experience that current tech cannot be considered substitute for solid support. It doesn't have to be heavy, but it shouldn't be cheap stuff that is no better, and often worse than relying on tech.

As far as your conclusion, you are certainly entitled to it. You may have a different opinion when you've been shooting over 55 yrs - but then again maybe by then we'll have cameras that can shoot at 50,000 ISO and lenses and/or bodies that can offer 20 stops of stabilization.

BTW, do you still hold on to the myth that changing focal lengths alone without changing camera to subject distance changes perspective?

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Apr 19, 2022 13:59:21   #
Fstop12 wrote:
I seriously don't think it's my computer although it could be. It does seem strange that Photoshop was working fine with Version 22.2. My computer isn't that old. Here are the specs. I am also using a NVIDIA Ge Force GT 730 graphics card.

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The big clue it's your computer - graphics card, actually, is that when you disable the gpu acceleration and features (compositing) that take advantage of a solid gpu it works. So, not knowing the rest of your system, this is the likely culprit. I suppose you can swap out the gpu for one with a little more ram (6 gb), and a faster engine like an RTX2060 with 6 gb, which will cost about $700.
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Apr 19, 2022 06:17:31   #
Fstop12 wrote:
I just did an update to PS version 23.3. It caused problems, specifically, if I did a CTRL J to duplicate a layer it would turn the entire image White. I called Adobe Tech support and we isolated the issue. It seems that this problem is existing with some computers. He told me until they come up with an update to fix do this.

Go to Edit> Preferences> Go to Edit > Prefernces>and uncheck: the box" Multitrhread Compositing, Then go to Advanced Settings and uncheck "GPU" Compositing. Then close down Photoshop and re-open. Everything is working fine now on my Computer.
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Cntrl J is working with both the Multithread Compositing and GPU compositing checked on my Win10 machine. Turning them off makes the machine sluggish. Maybe you should start thinking about a machine upgrade in the near future. I was using an 11 yr old system that was working fine, but was running Win7 so I could not take advantage of the newest versions of Lightroom, Photoshop and some other applications. So I bit the bullet and bought a new machine. The old system is still working, but the new one is considerably faster.
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Apr 18, 2022 13:38:55   #
lamiaceae wrote:
Thank you everyone. I decided on a used Bogan/Manfrotto 393. I figured it mechanically made more sense to me with the U-shape and thus less need for fancy bearings and much higher price. Though I am not sure what a Henjarphoto quick release clamp is compared to a Swiss-arca clamp.


For all intents and purposes, the Arca and Hejnar are functionally equivalent. HejnarPhoto does make this:

http://www.hejnarphotostore.com/product-p/m393f64ab.htm

This replaces the OEM lens/camera plate and clamp.

Otherwise you can save $35 and just get a 4" clamp, and attach it to the Manfrotto 357PLV-1 Sliding Plate that comes with the 393. This is what I did with mine - in the photo I posted above.

However, if you are thinking that you need this for shooting birds and wildlife, you may be surprised by the lack of flexibility, mobility, how often you trip on the legs, and the huge number of missed shots simply because you are using a tripod. I really haven't used my 393 or my tripod, with the exception of macro/closeup, focus stacking and panos, since I ditched my 600mmF4 and got a Sigma 150-600 Sport to replace it.
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Apr 18, 2022 08:30:43   #
TJBNovember wrote:
Wondering if anybody out there has gone this route when looking for new equipment. Were there any concerns or inconveniences with the items you received. If you had a problem within the B & H warranty period, was it rectified to your satisfaction. Considering going this route with a couple of U.S.A. items that have been out of stock for a while, but B & H has their import versions available. A camera and lens kit, FYI.


Nikon is a stickler for purchasing through proper channels. They support their dealers. When you go through different channels, you lose 3x. The purchase price is usually not that much cheaper, repairs are not done by Nikon authorized people, and you will take a hit when you try and resell your gray market stuff. Gray market is a lose, lose, lose scenario - zero upside and a lot of downside.

I think if you purchase equipment in another country in a face-to-face transaction Nikon USA will still fix it here, as long as you can provide the purchase receipt that shows it was sold by an authorized retailer. But that may have changed.
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Apr 18, 2022 08:15:09   #
lamiaceae wrote:
Fellow Ugly Hedgehoggers, I am asking for recommendations for a Gimbal Head.
I would like it for use with my K-5 and K-3 Pentax Bodies to photograph birds
and other wildlife. Using a tri-axial or ball head is not easy or fast.

Specifically For:
Sigma APO 150-500mm F5-6.3 DG OS HSM Lens.
Gitzo (old Aluminum - Ser. 2) Reporter 2 Performance Rapid Tripod Legs.

Prefer with a Swiss-Arca Lens/Camera Mount.
And Extra Swiss-Arca Plate(s) and Mount(s) for additional tripods.
Gimbal Head Budget: $75 to $300.
Thank you.
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Wimberley or equal is ideal, but out of your budget.

A while back I looked at what was available, and the $150-$350 Wimberley knockoffs were not of the same build quality. Nest seems to be no longer sold or supported. So I ended up buying a Manfrotto 393, and I simply attached an Arca-Swiss-style clamp to the one that came with the 393, using two screws that came with the 393. So, for about $287, ($221 for the gimbal + $65 for a 4" clamp from Hejnar Photo), you have a really solid and stable head that won't freeze up or lock in cold weather, and takes seconds to dismantle for cleaning or parts replacement. Mind you, I've had my 393 since 2007 and have only cleaned it a couple of times, and so far have never had to replace anything on it. I prefer a "U" over a cheap cantilever (Wimberley style) for it's added stability.

Initially I used mine with a D200 and a 50-500 Sigma, and later progressed to a much heavier D700/800/810 + 600mmF4 - none of which were an issue. And it was easy enough to balance the load in the clamps.

Hejnar has another solution that replaces the Manfrotto clamp with one of his Arca-Swiss clamps that was not available when I purchased mine -

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554099-REG/Manfrotto_393_393_Heavy_Duty_Gimbal.html?ap=y&smp=y
http://www.hejnarphotostore.com/product-p/f64.htm
http://www.hejnarphotostore.com/product-p/m393f64ab.htm

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Apr 17, 2022 12:25:24   #
kb6kgx wrote:
I’m not a professional, this is not my livelihood, and I’d LOVE to have the current 70-200. But at the time, it was a good “Black Friday” deal on the 70-300 (FX version) and I’ve gotten some great images with it.

I actually had a push-pull 70-200 for about a week, a few years back. Bought it on eBay. The photo with the sale item showed the two-ring version so that was what I was expecting. I was surprised to see it was the push-pull that I actually received. I sent it back. Probably should’ve kept it. Oh well.
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I've had both the 2 ring and one of the push pull lenses - preferred the push pull. I don't think they mad a 70-200 AF-D - both of mine were 80-200 F2.8 AF-D. The sharpest version was the 80-200 AF-S but sadly it had a congenial defect - the AF-S motor really sucked - they had a high failure rate, and are pretty worthless right now. But boy did it make nice pictures.

I have the FL - and I do like it. I did not like the VR II which had awful focus breathing.
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Apr 16, 2022 13:46:24   #
kb6kgx wrote:
After you stop laughing at the question, I'm sure many of you will say, "Yes!". And I WOULD like to have this lens. I have an opportunity to buy a "like new" lens for a really good price, BUT… and here's why I'm posting this silly question:

I already have the 70-300mm f4.5-5.6G (the one that retails for just under $500). I also have the 180mm f2.8. So, my question really is would I gain from getting the 80-200 since the 180 is right in the middle and the 70-300 does produce sharp enough images providing the focus is right.

Or should I just stick with what I have and be happy with that?
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I was never a fan of the 70-300 range zooms. For the most part, these are consumer grade optics and build quality. The 80-200 F2.8 is built well, but if it is the two ring version AND it's used there are 2 areas of concern. The obvious one is that you may not be able to get it fixed anymore if it is really old. But a hidden issue is that the small ring that switches the lens from manual focus to auto focus is a flawed design. It will eventually crack and separate, and the cost to repair is considerable because it requires a major tear down. I had mine repaired by Nikon in 2016 and it cost me $250. The one touch (single ring for focus and zoom) I think is a better design and possibly sharper, but it doesn't use a tripod collar.
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Apr 16, 2022 13:38:19   #
Zooman 1 wrote:
Not sure if there is such a thing, but I am looking for a portable hard drive I can download photos to with a small LED without having to be connected to a computer or phone. Any help will be appreciated.


Epson used to make them - I think the 80 gb was over $700. They were never popular.
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Apr 15, 2022 14:47:08   #
imagemeister wrote:
Used Sony A6000 with Sigma 60mm f2.8 and use Clear Image Zoom .......




Forgot about the A6000 - this would be excellent and if she shops carefully, at the high end of her budget.
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Apr 15, 2022 14:39:52   #
amfoto1 wrote:
There are a lot of problems shooting basketball and most point-n-shoot cameras will simply not do well.

You need quick autofocus, a bright lens, relatively fast shutter speeds, usable higher ISOs and, ideally, some means of dealing with the fluctuating lighting in most gymnasiums.

I'm going to focus on Canon gear because that's the system I know best. There may be some other manufacturers' cameras with similar capabilities.

Among Canon I'd recommend a used or refurbished Rebel T7i (800D outside N. America), EOS 77D or EOS 80D... Or a current Rebel T8i or EOS 90D.

Here is why:

All these cameras have Canon's 45-point AF system that's fairly fast and capable. All 45 of those AF points are a higher performance "dual axis/cross" type. The 80D and 90D have the best performing version of this AF system. You can use a single point (most accurate but most difficult), small groups of points (useful for fast action, though less reliable), or enable all 45 points (least reliable). While there are other Canon cameras with even better AF for fast basketball action (7D Mark II, 1DX Mark III, R6, R5, R3), the above models are reasonably affordable AND have a lot of automation features to make them easier to use. The 80D and 90D also have a "true" pentaprism that makes for a little bit bigger and brighter optical viewfinder than the T7i, 77D or T8i, all of which use a "penta-mirror" to save weight and cost.

The T7i, 77D and T8i have a fastest shutter speed of 1/4000... while the 80D or 90D both feature an even faster top speed of 1/8000. Fast shutter speeds are necessary to freeze sports action. You will find many point-n-shoots max out at 1/2000 shutter speed. That may be sufficient, but there will be times when even faster would be better.

All these cameras use 24MP APS-C size sensors, except for the 90D which uses an even higher resolution 32.5MP APS-C sensor (the highest resolution of any camera with this size sensor). 24MP is more than enough for sports photography and APS-C sensors are considerably larger than what is used in most point-n-shoot cameras. This allows higher ISOs to be used before digital noise becomes a problem (still bigger "full frame" sensors are even better in this respect, but make for bigger, heavier and more expensive cameras and lenses).

Canon T7i, 77D and T8i all can shoot continuously at 6 frames per second. 80D can do 7 fps and 90D is even faster at 10 fps (faster with locked AF, but that's not something you want to do when shooting sports). Continuous shooting rates are important to catch fast action... up to a point. They can cause you to take an awful lot of images that will need to be downloaded, sorted and worked with later. But a short half second burst of 3, 4 or 5 shots can capture the "peak moment" of action. This goes hand in hand with "shutter lag", which is the time between when the photography presses the release button to take the shot and when the shutter will actually release. There can be quite a lag with a point-n-shoot, which can cause photographers to miss a lot of fast action shots. DSLRs and mirrorless cameras can do better, but there's some variation among them, too. For example, the Canon 80D's shutter lag is a fast 0.060 second. The less advanced T7i is good, but is about 30% slower with 0.079 second shutter lag. Or a faster 0.052 second is possible with the 7D Mark II or even 0.038 sec with the most advanced 1DX Mark III (Note: All these are "optimized" shutter lag, tested with autofocus turned off. This is used for camera to camera comparisons. When AF metering are active, as they usually will be, there is always some additional delay.)

Yet another feature that's found on all the above Canon cameras is "flicker reduction". This was first introduced on the Canon 7D Mark II that I use and it's a real game changer when shooting "under the lights". The type of lighting used in many sports venues actually cycles on and off very rapidly... 60 times per second. We don't see it with our eyes... but our cameras sure do! In cameras without flicker reduction it causes A LOT of your images to be incorrectly exposed.... badly underexposed. Previously the only solution was to use a 1/30 or slower shutter speed... but this doesn't work for sports photography. You need faster shutter speeds to freeze the movement of the players, balls, bats and such. When shooting sports the best we could do was take lots and lots of extra shots, knowing that around half of them would be badly underexposed and a lot would be unusable.

Flicker reduction largely solves this. It detects the light cycling and times each shutter release to coincide with peak output. Using it I now see very few poorly exposed images, even when shooting familiar locations where the lighting gave me trouble before. Canon has put Anti-Flicker into almost all their cameras since 2014 when the 7D Mark II was introduced (the more entry-level T7, SL2/SL3 and, other than the M6 Mark II, M-series mirrorless don't have it). You can see more about this feature here: https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-Cameras/Anti-Flicker-Mode.aspx I know Nikon has a similar feature in a few of their cameras too.... Don't know about Sony or other manufacturers.

The lens for this purpose is going to be more challenging. An ideal lens has high performance autofocus and a large aperture to be usable with a fast shutter speed in limited lighting conditions. A zoom can be desirable for the versatility, but prime lenses can offer a larger aperture in smaller size, lighter weight and lower cost. The "kit" lenses offered with all the above cameras can be good, but are NOT large aperture and many don't feature the fastest type of focusing motors.

The most ideal zoom lenses available for basketball that can fit the above Canon DSLRs:

- Sigma 50-100mm f/1.8 DC HSM... great focal length range for basketball... over a stop larger aperture than other zooms... no image stabilization... pretty big & pretty heavy and $1000.

- Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 IS USM III.... superb lens, pro build... slightly longer than usual needs for basketball... "only" f/2.8.... large, heavy and over $2000 (Sigma & Tamron versions cost a lot less).

- Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2.... good lens... slightly short for basketball... "only" f/2.8... moderately heavy, $1200 (less than the Canon & Sigma versions).

- Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM... great lens... most compact and lightest weight... "only" f/2.8... pretty short for basketball... most affordable under $900 new, widely avail. used for less.

All the above have their manufacturer's fastest type of auto focusing motor: Canon USM, Sigma HSM and Tamron USD.

Prime lenses I would use to shoot basketball are 50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.8 and 135mm f/2. While less versatile, these are one to two stops brighter than f/2.8 aperture zooms. They also are typically a lot smaller, lighter and less expensive. I would also consider using 35mm and 100mm lenses. And I'd look for those same fast focusing motors in these primes.

Ultimately lenses for sports ain't cheap. If willing to consider refurbished (direct from Canon USA, same warranty and little difference from new, except for the plain brown box). When they are in stock, refurbished copies of most of the above recommended models will cost less than most of the above lenses: https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/cameras/refurbished-eos-interchangeable-lens-cameras#facet:-81026611110012132791101081213275105116115,-810369798332555568,-810369798332564868,-8103697983328210198101108328455105&productBeginIndex:0&orderBy:&pageView:grid&pageSize:& For used cameras, check out B&H Photo, Adorama, KEH.com, MPB.com, usedphotopro.com (Roberts Camera), and others.
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But can you get any of this for $350 - $450?

All of these recommendations are excellent - but the budget is the killer.
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Apr 15, 2022 11:44:25   #
This may help:

Are you using raw files? Do you also use Lightroom?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-XS9m-tibI
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Apr 15, 2022 11:41:18   #
Overthehill1 wrote:
And naturally, she asked me, who knows nothing about them. Her 14 year old son is 6'3 and growing, and plays in an advanced youth league. She currently uses her I-phone but is looking for something more versatile, but not as complicated as a DSLR. Budget is in the $350 to $450 range. Thanks.


You are asking about one of the more difficult aspects of photography. Poor lighting, fast action, and halogen/LED/Quartz lighting which produce flicker.

While a fast lens is great for focusing and composition, it is not a good choice for shooting sports - a lens used wide open generally does not look so great until you reduce the aperture. A fast lens (F1.4) used at F2.8 or F4 will produce considerably better image quality than a lens that starts at F2.8 or F4 - when used at similar apertures. Photographers will often recommend fast lenses because they let in more light, ignoring the practical issues that will have an impact when used. Fast lenses are expensive and bigger/heavier.

Full frame cameras do have a considerable edge over smaller sensor cameras. Newer cameras have anti-flicker modes, and advanced focus systems that are well-matched to the task of shooting sports. But they are heavier, more expensive and bulkier.

There are some cameras that "can" work, such as a Sony RX10M4, but they are still questionable in poor light and they do not have an anti-flicker mode.

DSLR or Mirrorless - it is no more complicated than using an iPhone. The setup has more variables, but once the camera settings are performed, it's just point and shoot - and the camera does the rest.

So, for $350--$450, it is not too likely she will close to her goal. And a low cost, small sensor camera is NOT going to work - mainly because the autofocus systems are not going to be up to the task of shooting active sports. Only the newer ones, with hybrid focusing systems, like the Sony RX10 and RX100 series cameras and others that I am not familiar with, will work. Slow focusing systems are frustrating to use for anything more than landscapes, street photography, travel, and selfies.
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Apr 14, 2022 19:03:31   #
edupen wrote:
For a Ballhead what is the best Lude to use on it so it moves freely?


None. Don't lube. If it is tight and put lubricant on it, it will always slip - even when you don't want it to.

It may be defective. But I will say that quality control on Bogen/Manfrotto equipment has been slipping (pun fully intended), and they are not known for quality ball heads any more. There are better solutions out there - Arca-Swiss, RRS, FLM, Kirk, and a few others.
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Apr 14, 2022 06:08:58   #
bobfitz wrote:
Hello all,

Curious to know if anyone has had experience with Lightroom Live View and if so how has your experience been.
Any info will be appreciated.

Bob


It's just ok. For tethering my Nikons I much prefer Capture One. They get it right. If you are not familiar with it - Capture One started life as a medium format (Phase One) capture and tethering tool with raw conversion in 1994.
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