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Life is like a camera. Just focus on what’s important and capture the good times, develop the negatives and wish you'd brought the digital camera instead.

Pictures of good times are nice, but if you catch The Hindenburg blowing up, it is worth more money.

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Dec 28, 2021 19:45:17 #

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Can anyone identify this camera?

burkphoto wrote:

It’s 2021. The world is digital. Hopefully, film photography is no longer a prerequisite for any other photography course. There’s nothing wrong with film, but it should be an elective.

I say that, having used thousands of rolls of B&W, color slide, and color negative films from 1960 to 2005. That was the year I made the cold turkey switch to digital capture. I’m very glad I did. Now I’m digitizing my slides and negatives, so they can be shared properly.

Me too, but it is not like a monk that uses candles instead of light bulbs in some remote monastery as an article of faith. It is more like the romantic who uses candles for an intimate dinner. Of course they are a bit out of date, but still...

There are a number of things I have been wanting to do with 4x5 b/w film in coordination with digital technologies, but I have just been too busy or too old to get around to it.

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Dec 27, 2021 17:04:34 #

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User ID wrote:

I’ve been an art student.
I have a degree in fine arts.
I’m a professional photographer.
You are explaining me to myself :-)

OK, then you were not surprised by any current photography trends in art departments, venturing into unusual tools and techniques that are not common in commercial applications.

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Dec 27, 2021 15:09:48 #

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User ID wrote:

Once you go way passed the point of diminishing returns why go even further ? Because we can ?

With raw files from 24x36mm are already about 50 to 60MB for a single frame, you could lug an 8x10 and make it bigger. Or you could stitch six or more frames of that 24x36mm to make it bigger. Or you could take up welded metal sculpture if you reeeeeeeally wanna create a storage and handling problem. “Because we can”, I must suppose .....
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Well, I was talking about art students and artists--they can be very picky, and do not have the concerns of professionals.

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Dec 27, 2021 09:50:46 #

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User ID wrote:

Yes. Any digital image can become a platinum print, whether it’s a scan of 8x10 film or it originated in a phone.

Quite right, ID--but the 8x10 or the 4x5 will give a much larger file, which matters for very large prints on paper. Just as a big negative on film can (all else being equal) make a finer print, so a digital file of the big negative can make a finer enlargement, yes?

But artists are using 8x10 negatives for contact prints. The results could be very fine, but nearly or equally as fine at, say, 16x20 by making an enlarged negative print digitally. The 4x5 may be indistinguishable from the 8x10 in the finished product. (Imagine a 4x5 sensor with a zillion MPs...)

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Dec 26, 2021 22:18:18 #

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profbowman wrote:

I have a nephew who is the photographic lab curator/instructor in a university in North Carolina (USA). He works heavily with B&W film now. So if these are people from a photography class, they well might be working with B&W film. --Richard Bowman

I just donated a Linhof 8x10 film studio system with an SUV load of accessories to my old college art department, and they were ecstatic. You can attach digital cameras to the back, which is nice for through the lens metering, but yes--they were most interested in black and white sheet film. Platinum prints last 1000 years and are very suitable for fine art. You can make an 8x10 negative, then scan it and print it digitally to clear film. say 16x20, then contact print that on paper with platinum coating. But many experimental techniques are popular.

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Dec 26, 2021 21:15:51 #

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User ID wrote:

I guess your detailed thinking makes sense.

But I can sum it up. I was in retail when it arrived. Per the hype from Canon, the AE1 was the first advanced camera to be marketed through a major TV ad campaign. Nuffsed ?

The buyer inquiring about the AE1 almost always asked this question that no other SLR shoppers would ever ask: “Can I put a zoom lens on it ?”

OR this--they would ask "how far can this zoom see?" I would say, "The Moon on a clear night."

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Dec 26, 2021 12:51:25 #

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Together for 50 Years

Farm Boy wrote:

Nice to see you still have it, I still have my Minolta 101 been a while since I used it, last year i shot roll of film just to show my son how we used to do it.

Farm Boy, I haven't had a 35mm film camera for a long time, and mostly use a Canon T4i digital descendant of the Rebel series (which started as a film camera). Thinking I would like full frame, I looked around at more recent models, but instead I just bought a Rebel film camera, which is full frame and uses current EF Canon lenses from my T4i. So if I really want the full frame for something, I can use that, with film. What shocked me most was that the camera and lens on the old Rebel (which was $20 on eBay), is practically weightless, about like lifting a pencil. No full frame digital is anything like that. The Canon lenses over 100mm will all fit both EF and EFS mount cameras--long lenses naturally have large image circles that cover full frame. For wide angle, the film camera needs an EF lens.

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Dec 26, 2021 12:32:31 #

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burkphoto wrote:

Agreed. They sold so many because they were sellin... (show quote)

Burk, I sold cameras in those days, and one of the most common customer demands for people with money was, "I want a camera that does everything for me." Many of those purchases may still be somewhere in a closet or drawer, in like-new condition. They did not yet have autofocus, but even so, the cameras could only do what the user told them to do. We sold lots of AE-1s. Not until the Rebel series did their cameras approach what the customers wanted in that respect.

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Dec 26, 2021 09:37:00 #

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Together for 50 Years

Kencamera wrote:

You were part of a revolution. This camera played a key role in taking the camera leadership away from the Germans (Leica and Contax). It dispelled the myth of Japanese cheapness and unreliability. It may be the most reliable camera of all time. It captured the the professional photographers market. Nikon made about 784,000 of these cameras.

Regarding Japanese "cheap stuff" (it was similar with Chinese goods, perhaps still), do you remember all the Japanese cameras had that little gold sticker saying "Passed" to indicate the Japanese inspectors approved it as first quality for export? When did that stop?

And American lenses were still at the top of the list as late as the 1960's--Kodak Ektars and Goerz Dagors (for view cameras). They still sell dear on eBay. And of course they invented the digital camera, and made billions in royalties until the patent ran out in 2007.

https://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/08/12/kodaks-first-digital-moment/

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Dec 25, 2021 15:37:43 #

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Together for 50 Years

rmalarz wrote:

Since Christmas Eve 1971
--Bob

Bob, it doesn't look a day over 40.

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Dec 25, 2021 15:33:18 #

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Just a thought

Just Shoot Me wrote:

Among you many accomplishments,
You’re a poet and I didn’t even know it.
Happy Holidays😁

I imagine he knew it.

I too am long of tooth--well, the teeth I have. I even have a 4x5 view camera with reflex mirror back (not instant though). Linhof back but works on any Graflok 4x5. I don't use it a lot.

And in a drawer somewhere, several twin lens Mamiyas with mirrors that don't move at all.

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Dec 7, 2021 20:29:48 #

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Effect of "point and shoot" cell phones on the profession of photographer?

Longshadow wrote:

'Cause people would look funny holding a camera up to their ear?

Yes, I was holding it up to my eyes! That explains a lot.

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