They did look as you say, no question.

Trump didn’t look all that good.

But the real story, the sincere threat to the nation is Using The White House, The Oval Office, as a propagand site to lie to the nation and to the world.

Is there no longer such a thing as truth or competence in the Republican Party?

This, on the other hand, is truly a sensitive, truthful expression of political reality as it exists is the White House today!

Wonderful Work!!!


;-)

This is merely wistful trash.

Love propaganda much?????

They did look strange. Obviously, they aren’t gifted performers.

On the other hand, they didn’t outright lie to the nation, as someone else did.

Trump himself looked pretty tense. Formal speeches aren’t his forte, as the informal rally speeches are.

But he lied.

Again.

Still.

Is the man mentally incapable of telling the truth? Is there nothing of reality in his life?

Summing up: Trump, big failure; absolutely no constructive effect to his cloud of lies.

Democrats, satire on SNL, expecially the huddling.

Final judgement: Trump totally incapable of telling the truth at any time;

Schumer and Pelosi, humor fodder, not gifted speakers, but holding Trump’s feet to the fire.

When paychecks are missing and tax refunds are questionable, this thing will come to a head, and will end.

So, you are offended by Nardissism? What a change!

Actually you seem to have forgotten how to read, and instead you take to telling me what I feel or what, in your opinion at least, what I mean.

You never win any kewpi dolls that way.

What I said was, no rational person can question Obama’s competence or honesty.

Particularly, if you accept trump, you can’t.

You can argue with his politics or with his policies (if you want to be wrong.)

Repeated surveys by professional historians place Obama at about number ten of the positive list of best presidents.

Trump is one lower than dead last, perhaps two lower.

Unclear whether you are replying to my post or not, and if you are, what does your post have to do with mine?

from /wikipedia:

(And I quote)

Barack Hussein Obama II (/bəˈrɑːk huːˈseɪn oʊˈbɑːmə/ (About this soundlisten);[1] born August 4, 1961) is an American attorney and politician who served as the 44th president of the United States from 2009 to 2017. A member of the Democratic Party, he was the first African American to be elected to the presidency. He previously served as a senator from Illinois from 2005 to 2008.

“Deregulation

In 1999, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act repealed the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. The repeal allowed banks to use deposits to invest in derivatives. Bank lobbyists said they needed this change to compete with foreign firms. They promised to only invest in low-risk securities to protect their customers.

The following year, the Commodity Futures Modernization Act exempted credit default swaps and other derivatives from regulations. This federal legislation overruled the state laws that had formerly prohibited this from gambling. It specifically exempted trading in energy derivatives.

Who wrote and advocated for passage of both bills? Texas Senator Phil Gramm, Chairman of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. He listened to lobbyists from energy company, Enron. His wife, who had formerly held the post of Chairwoman of the Commodities Future Trading Commission, was an Enron board member. Enron was a major contributor to Senator Gramm’s campaigns. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers also lobbied for the bill’s passage.

Enron wanted to engage in derivatives trading using its online futures exchanges. Enron argued that foreign derivatives exchanges were giving overseas firms an unfair competitive advantage. 


https://www.thebalance.com/what-caused-2008-global-financial-crisis-3306176

Read The Big Short, by Michael Lewis....

Let’s try to keep this discussion within the bounds of honesty and responsibility. I think things will go better if we do.

For example, I never said you couldn’t criticize Obama’s politics or his policies. As a matter of fact, I specifically said you could:

“You go too far. No rational person can accuse Obama of incompetence or corruption. None.

You may disagree with his policies or his politics; that is allowed. But the rest, never.”

What I said, if you read carefully, is that No One—Not Even You—can attack his competence or his honesty.

You try to tune the conversation to something entirely different, and that ain’t kosher.

I’m not going to argue IQ with you, as I have no specific information to specify. Obama is a smart man, and if you deny that you make yourself look foolish. Was he qualified before he was elected? Of course he was.

I’m not going to list his legal background, his community service or his government experience. He had better qualifications than most candidates, and I won’t even embarrass you listing Trump’s weaknesses other than to quote someone else who said Don’s father gave him $400 million to start out, and he soon ended up $900 million in the hole.

“Obama had been a community organizer, a state senator, and a US senator. While the latter 2 obviously incorporate legislating they do not incorporate skills of an executive.”

I can’t think of much better background in politics than ‘community organizer.’

What did Trump’s “executive” background give him. He’s a disaster as an executive. Executive time!!!

He has absolutely no understanding of negotiation, absolutely no executive ability, his selection of personnel (when said personnel would agree to work for him) is pitiful, and he knows absolutely nothing about law or government.


“I mean, we all know the best Presidents that come from the public sector were governors. They were already doing the job albeit on a smaller scale. They can make decisions.”

Well, not to put too fine a point on it, how about Abraham Lincoln? Harry Truman? George Washington? Thomas Jefferson?


You don’t know what went on about Foley. Silly example.

And you have a lot of nerve even mentioning “Golf Course” in this context.

The $150 billion was Iran’s money. Obama didn’t drop anything. Let’s keep the honesty thing going, OK?

He Got The Coast Guard Paid??? Really? Putin probably thought it was a good idea.

In the Mid-terms, the republicans were ashamed of the tax cuts, hardly mentioned them—turned to lying about how they were going to save Obamacare!!

OK. I’ll give you sending the troops to the border wasn’t universally popular, didn’t accomplish anything even though it was illegal.

That’s a pretty weak point.

Runaway stock markets??? Have you looked recently? You better reconsider your debate strategy.

You set yourself up with a pretty weak position, defending trump.

He’ll never finish the year....

Nobody missed you. Please take another.

The perfect reply in this context, reflecting denial and self-ignorance, and destructive dishonesty.

Accept this a conformation of the above posts.....

Look up Michael Lewis, The Big Short, and learn.

You have absolutely no idea of which you speak, but you do have a rich imagination.

Government wasn’t involved, just the profit motive.

You have no idea at all what you are speaking of, but you have a rich imagination.

Government wasn’t involved only the profit motive.