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Apr 21, 2019 16:13:58   #
I think it is opening in 16 bit I have all preferences in Lightroom set to 16
I get this upon importing into Lightroom with zero processing on the NEF file in many of my images, green and magenta artifacts.
I have hit a wall. I must figure this out my creative self esteem and mental stability is at stake.
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Apr 21, 2019 16:08:27   #
kymarto wrote:
Do you do very aggressive curve work? If you stretch a section of the curve a lot you can come up with this kind of banding, though I am surprised if you are getting that using 16 bit. If you are using PS, and opening in ACR, you have to make sure to open the raw directly in 16 bit. If it is converted to 8 bit first, it will remain effectively 8 bit even if you are working in 16 bit.


I am getting this straight out of camera
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Apr 21, 2019 15:46:57   #
PHRubin wrote:
Help me see it, I don't see the banding. Where?

I attached a snap of a test print I got back fro bay photo it is easy to see in the sky.


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Apr 21, 2019 15:43:49   #
PHRubin wrote:
Help me see it, I don't see the banding. Where?


It is in the water on right side from the rocks to the horizon, it might be color fringing?
I have been dealing with this for years and it makes not want to shoot anymore
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Apr 21, 2019 15:41:35   #
kymarto wrote:
Raws are 14 bit (or sometimes 12). But when you open them in PS you have the option of opening as 16 bit files or 8 bit. You should always work in 16 bit, especially if you are doing any serious post processing optimization, since in 8 bit you have only 256 luminosity levels, and you can start seeing banding in gradients. But I think you are talking about something else. Color fringing? Please upload a detail of the shot, or upload it full resolution so that we can see what you are talking about.
Raws are 14 bit (or sometimes 12). But when you op... (show quote)


Yes maybe it is color fringing, my computers Lightroom is set at 16 bit.
I attached an image to this thread it’s resolution is good enough hopefully for you to see the color artifacts in the water on right side.
I have many examples of this I’m other images, I also see it some of my images without ND filters now that I look closer
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Apr 21, 2019 14:22:20   #
[quote=Fotoartist]Fixing banding issues is tough but I'm going to go out on a limb and say it is impossible to create banding with a 16-bit file. So use 16-bit.[/quote
I added a example.
This is shot in raw I have camera set to not sure why but my camera says 14 bit recording?
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Apr 21, 2019 14:03:49   #
karno wrote:
Over the years I have had issues with colorbanding in my images when I use ND filters. At times this banding can be seen on back of lcd screen if I look really close.
Other times I only notice it on the computer screen or I realize it is there after it shows up in print.
This problem has plagued me over the years and has kept me from selling many images.
I thought this should be a rare situation
Though it has been happening often.
I have had this issue
While shooting d810 with Zeiss lenses and heliopan Nd filters,
Now having the issue while shooting D850 with Zeiss lenses with breakthrough Nd filters.
I shoot raw uncompressed.
I use Nd filters for most of my work especially the 3 stop to give water a bit of movement. But use 3,6.10 and 15 stop filters.
Has anyone else run into this issue?
I notice this more often now that I have 5k iMac and also because I am printing more.
To clarify I always close eye price on optical view finder during long exposures,
I always shoot lossless raw.
This is tiypical color banding but will post examples if needed.
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Apr 21, 2019 11:57:09   #
Over the years I have had issues with colorbanding in my images when I use ND filters. At times this banding can be seen on back of lcd screen if I look really close.
Other times I only notice it on the computer screen or I realize it is there after it shows up in print.
This problem has plagued me over the years and has kept me from selling many images.
I thought this should be a rare situation
Though it has been happening often.
I have had this issue
While shooting d810 with Zeiss lenses and heliopan Nd filters,
Now having the issue while shooting D850 with Zeiss lenses with breakthrough Nd filters.
I shoot raw uncompressed.
I use Nd filters for most of my work especially the 3 stop to give water a bit of movement. But use 3,6.10 and 15 stop filters.
Has anyone else run into this issue?
I notice this more often now that I have 5k iMac and also because I am printing more.
To clarify I always close eye price on optical view finder during long exposures,
I always shoot lossless raw.
This is tiypical color banding but will post examples if needed.
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Apr 19, 2019 10:23:47   #
They should call it waterfall glass
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Apr 9, 2019 11:52:41   #
traderjohn wrote:
"Though with a 15 stop ND filter and a six minute exposure they are not even visible."
I thought the same thing. Then I reread his post.


Thank you, I would have included a image of the cows but they walked through and were gone during the exposure.
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Apr 9, 2019 11:50:44   #
treadwl wrote:
It is a both and interesting and beautiful photo. However, I have one questions. With your exposure running for 6 minutes how did you keep the flowers in the foreground from being blurred? Is this a stacked image? It seems to my old eyes that the two flowers that are hanging out over the water are not as sharp as the rest. This is not meant to be critical of the image, I'm just asking for reference sake. I take a lot of long exposure images and have problems with wind moving things.


Yes, good eye, I did focus stack this image manually. I am kind of intrigued by sharp foreground among soft clouds and water.
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Apr 9, 2019 11:47:18   #
Blair Shaw Jr wrote:
ONE of the Great Joys of BLACK GLASS ......many forget how handy they can actually be and time is all one needs.....Excellent work and I have to practice more on these myself.


Many thanks,
I forget that these are called black glass.
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Apr 9, 2019 11:46:23   #
StanMac wrote:
Great image, Karno!

The scene makes me think “Scotland” or “Ireland” rather than “California” for some reason. It’s the similarities in the rock forms and implication of a high rocky meadows I guess.

Stan


I feel the same about this spot, table mountain in Butte county is one those amazing spots with many personalities I photograph here a lot. It is close to where I live, has many waterfalls, expansive views, lone Oakes, rock formations and in spring loads of flowers.
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Apr 9, 2019 11:41:27   #
StevenG wrote:
Beautifully done! Amazing that the cows are not visible!
Steve


Many thanks,, I thought so, the lumbering giants were moving slow
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Apr 9, 2019 11:39:50   #
jaymatt wrote:
Assuming there really were cows, are they at the back, near the waterfall?
Nice photo, cows or no.


Thank you,
The cows crossed right in the middle of the image.
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