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Apr 9, 2024 18:55:12   #
BebuLamar wrote:
No I tried it with no partition. All other drives I tried have no partition when I started. But I can do that. I don't think it would work. When the SATA bios boot it doesn't care what kind of partition is on the drive.


Then I’m out of ideas unless there’s a BIOS upgrade available.
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Apr 9, 2024 18:20:59   #
BebuLamar wrote:
I do have the driver for windows xp. It came with the card. But it has to get past the bios before anything can be done. All other SATA drives I had there was no problem. I have SATA drive from 250GB SSD to spinner 300 to 500GB. Just this one 1TB doesn't work.
Basically just plug in the drives. When the SATA bios is booting it ask you if you want to configure. You can press F3 and go into the configure then you can set which drive as #1 which as #2. Then after that the computer will boot and depending how you set the priority for the boot you can get it to boot with the CD for example. If you were to install XP, the CD would boot up and you would press F6 and it will ask you for the driver floppy which I have. Then it will install WinXP on the SATA drive no problem.
But with the 1TB drive the SATA bios is booting. displaying that it see the drive but it hangs before it can display the drive size. And you can't go into the configuration routine by pressing F3 either. So it would never try to boot.
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Did you ever try it with 2 500GB partitions?
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Apr 9, 2024 14:34:38   #
BebuLamar wrote:
It's not that kind of problem. The bios of the adaptec card doesn't go pass the bios start up. I know you have to install the driver when install windows xp etc.. The motherboard has the adaptec ultra SCSI 320 built in an that one works fine with both the internal and external connection.


If you mean that during the BIOs load, you see the Adaptec API load and THEN the BIOS /boot load freezes, then unless you can get a copy of the Adaptec install SW, you’re SOL. If you mean that you never see the Adaptec API load, then same answer - you’ll need another card (and one that supports XP). Did you ever try partitioning it into 2 500GB partitions? In the end, if the BIOS does’t (or can’t be made to) recognize your drive, the system won’t find it.

Your other options are to use SCSI or PATA drives, limit yourself to 500GB SATA or try a SCSI to SATA adapter. Never used one, but they are made, and since SATA drives use the same voltages and SCSI command set, it’s not hard to make an adapter.

Good luck
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Apr 9, 2024 13:27:38   #
SteveR wrote:
ebay has a pair of Timberline Ambermatics for $849. Good lookin' but I don't imagine that they'll sell anytime soon. Others are priced in the mid 300's.


I know, and now I’d need prescription (or clip ons). Ambermatics would darken from a yellow in low light (which actually gave everything a rosey hue and seemed to increase visibility in foggy conditions) to a dark brown very quickly in sunlight.
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Apr 9, 2024 13:23:18   #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
The reasons should be clear from my comment. The infrastructure required for EV charging stations is a problem. To charge multiple cars takes real estate that’s tied up for 20-30 minutes at a time. That same real estate can handle many more cars in the same time frame with gas pumps, (or hydrogen). And as someone traveling that time really adds up on a long trip. While it takes more energy in electricity to produce the hydrogen the benefits of fuel cells still make it worthwhile. The production costs can also be mitigated by using sustainable means to generate the electricity, (solar, wind, etc). And since it can be produced anywhere there’s no need for refineries near ports and pipelines that are a potential ecological disaster.
The reasons should be clear from my comment. The i... (show quote)


Are you suggesting that each service station generate its own hydrogen, or that it be piped to it or distributed as we do gasoline?

Here’s an interesting site I found on Hydrogen/fuel cell technology and implementation: https://www.ieafuelcell.com/index.php?id=33
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Apr 9, 2024 12:57:25   #
BebuLamar wrote:
Booting up then attach the drive causes the fdisk program to hang. I guess the controller is old and not supporting hot swap. I never did the hot swap on this computer. There is no dip switch on the board. The controller is the Adaptec 1205SA. I think it's among the first SATA card they made.


Are you saying that if you boot completely and then attach the partitioned and formatted drive that Windows can’t recognize the drive? Why would you need fdisk if the drive is already partitioned and formatted? And did you try the drive partitioned into 2 500GB partitions?

Went to the Adaptec site and here is the link to the XP driver and the instructions. Adaptec does mention their SATAconnect SW which likely loads both the driver and API - I can’t find a download for that anywhere, but you might try Adaptec support. I know on their SCSI drives, their SCSIconnect SW was essential in installing SCSI drives with Adaptec HBAs. The SW allows the BIOS to recognize the Adaptec SATA card and associated drive before calling for boot loader. Without that step, boot loader can’t find the drive.

https://storage.microsemi.com/en-us/speed/sata/ash1205_win_drv_v10041_exe.php


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Apr 9, 2024 12:23:57   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Remember that many of the complaints about the digest changes were from users who rarely commented. How would we know if they left? I was referring to active users, specifically those who shared photos.

But, if we want to go back to beating that poor horse, if someone leaves UHH because of a format change (which Admin revised, returning the option to separate sections), to me that doesn't suggest there was a particularly strong attachment

Sadly, the volunteer-managed sections were in decline long before the digest revision.
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Actually, I couldn’t resist “poking the bear” (notice my smile at the end). But seriously, the reason I mention it is I have seen several posts recently where members have stated that they spend less time on the site since the change - I know I do. My point was that UHH seems to be steadily declining in web visits (and interesting new topics) since about the time of the change. Related or. coincidence? Something is occurring, and it isn’t positive. What do you think is driving the downward trend? I would note that newspapers and magazines have always had a headline cover page before the internal sections. Think they might know something about attracting initial attention to bring the reader in for more in-depth coverage?

Honestly, if I could do one positive thing to change the site, it would be to fix the useless search function.


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Apr 9, 2024 00:33:28   #
StanMac wrote:
Message to Jerry: Don’t let these dips who complain about your posts deter you, my Friend! You are probably the most entertaining member here. Keep up the good work!

Stan


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Apr 8, 2024 17:17:23   #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
That diagram shows a slight change in direction, not a “sudden right turn”.


It’s lost on him that the course diagram I posted are various POINTS in the course connected by straight lines, NOT a continuous course line.
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Apr 8, 2024 15:36:10   #
mikey12654 wrote:
US Army 1972-1978, Sgt E-5, 16B Nike Hercules missile crewman & 16C Nike Hercules Acq. radar operator
All active duty in Germany with 2-weeks TDY in Crete, Greece


Did you train at Redstone Arsenal?
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Apr 8, 2024 13:26:45   #
BebuLamar wrote:
It boots with the USB drive if I have no HDD or I have the 500GB HDD installed. With the 1TB HDD it hang during loading the BIOS. The controller BIOS recognize the drive model number but it hangs there.
With the 500GB drive it would display the HDD number as drive 1 and then the CD/DVD drive as drive 2 and then it goes to boot. With the 1TB drive it just display the 1TB drive number as drive 1 then hangs. It doesn't display the CD/DVD drive and thus no booting.


So what about booting up and then adding the drive (you can hot plug a SATA drive).
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Apr 8, 2024 13:14:39   #
Excellent! And a very professional job.
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Apr 8, 2024 13:06:09   #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Yes, I’ve always thought fuel cell vehicles were the best option. I was afraid when EV’s came out that development of hydrogen cars might stop, but I’m happy to see a resurgence. I see EV’s as a nice intermediate step but once all the safety issues are ironed out there are a lot of serious advantages over gas or electric. I don’t think I’d ever make my own hydrogen but the fact that it’s possible is a game changer. The infrastructure needs are minimized. No need for the real estate footprint and charging times for EV’s and no need for the pipelines and trucks to supply gas stations.
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If there are no pipelines/gas stations where will the hydrogen come from? If the plan is to electrolyze it at home, what do you do on a long trip? And electrolyzing water to make hydrogen takes more energy than the hydrogen produces (and you’d have to compress and cool it), so why not just use electricity and avoid the middleman?
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Apr 8, 2024 12:57:42   #
BebuLamar wrote:
I delete the partition. The drive has no partition. It has nothing on it. It's installed as the boot drive. I am going to install an OS on it once the computer (not OS) recognizes the drive and goes thru the bios loading. I would boot it up with a USB thumb drive or CD to install the OS.


Have you set the BIOS to boot from USB? If you have, it should boot whether or not it recognizes the drive. If in doubt, unplug the drive, boot from USB, install the OS from USB, and then add the drive. Therwol’s suggestion could also be correct - GPT is fairly recent, and a BIOS looking for MBR won’t “understand” GPT/UEFI
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Apr 8, 2024 12:01:57   #
TriX wrote:
Likely the BIOS (have you checked for an update) or the SATA card’s API/driver (check Adaptec) or both. The BIOS interacts with the disk API to load the OS. I’d look for the Adaptec instruction manual for the card. I’d also look to see if there are any jumpers on the card.


Forgot to add: in order for the BIOS to call the OS boot loader, it must first call the disk adapter’s API so it can access disk. I can’t speak for Adaptec SATA cards, but I have used/configured a LOT of Adaptec SCSI cards, and many have a jumper to automatically load the API during the BIOS - you can see it on the screen before the OS loads. Hence the reason for finding the Adaptec manual. And it may be that when the Adaptec card was released, there was no on card support for larger SATA drives, so worst case, you may need a new card, and that could be an issue in finding a driver for an old OS. I wonder if you partitioned the drive into two 500GB partitions, it would load?
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