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Mar 17, 2024 14:30:58 #
goofybruce wrote:
...and if you look closely at the numeric amount, you are only getting $36,500. The amount is expressed down to "zero" mills. Other than that, makes sense to me.... NOT!!!
He made a Freudian slip. The custom in certain foreign countries is to use decimals in the place of commas.
Mar 17, 2024 13:31:59 #
Shellback wrote:
Bank of America Corporate Center br Address: 100 N... (show quote)
Let's give the faker credit, he did some homework and got the bank's headquarters address and name of the CFO correct. But he then made some grammatical errors in the text and made the dumb mistake of writing "million dollars" immediately after writing "$36,000,000.00."
They are getting better, but not good enough to really fool people who graduated from high school.
Mar 17, 2024 13:26:57 #
Shellback wrote:
Bank of America Corporate Center br Address: 100 N... (show quote)
Give the faker credit for doing some homework. He got the corporate headquarters address and name of the CFO correct. But the year of the bank's founding is wrong. And he made some grammatical errors in the text along with the mistake of writing the word "millions" following the numerical expression of the total value.
They are getting smarter, just not smart enough!
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Mar 17, 2024 12:26:39 #
I love Spanish olives. So, I buy multiple big jars at a time in Costco.
Mar 17, 2024 12:12:47 #
starlifter wrote:
What happened to the meal?
By removing one olive from the salad, United saved $50,000 in expenses. That started the ball rolling to save hundreds of millions by eliminating meals.
Mar 16, 2024 20:13:42 #
Nigel7 wrote:
Recent news regarding Boeing has been really scary and I shall certainly be looking for airlines that use Airbus until Boeing gets its quality control sorted. I wonder how many people who still support Boeing, despite the numerous safety breaches, actually regularly fly themselves. Loyalty to major US manufacturers is fine up to a point but that point has been thoroughly breached recently.
As if a resident of the UK doesn't have loyalty to the European-made Airbus unless a family member flies a Boeing?
Airbus and Boeing both make good airplanes. But, the last time I checked, there were more airlines flying Boeing planes than Airbus. And there were more Boeing planes flying than Airbus.
Mar 16, 2024 19:00:43 #
So, you don't have and haven't even seen any of the documents that you assert as proof of your claim.
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Mar 16, 2024 16:59:00 #
Red6 wrote:
I absolutely believe a company should make a profi... (show quote)
Would you please share with me the Boeing documents that show "upper management knew of the issues concerning MCAS and approved of the decisions not to mention it to the airlines and pilots when including it in the 737 MAX." I have not seen any such documents and would like to see exactly what they say.
Mar 16, 2024 16:23:37 #
mr spock wrote:
At the risk of sending this to the attic, I make this statement:
PBS and NPR are wonderful as long as you have no interest in hearing BOTH sides of a political issue.
PBS and NPR are wonderful as long as you have no interest in hearing BOTH sides of a political issue.
Mar 16, 2024 15:35:41 #
Mar 16, 2024 15:31:12 #
Longshadow wrote:
MY post(s) never mentioned board members. Check your reference.
My apologies. I intended to respond to Dikdik's comment and accidently responded to your post about Dikdik's comment instead. Read Dikdik's comment to see why I commented as I did.
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Mar 16, 2024 15:27:24 #
Dikdik wrote:
They can be culpable, but the direction for the actions comes from the board. They are the instigator. If they are criminally liable, then things will improve. In Canada, with construction safety, when managers became responsible, there was a sudden increase in safety.
You obviously do not understand how large, world-class corporations must operate. The "direction for the actions" does not come from the Board. Board member responsibility is established in law. The board meets for a few hours quarterly and reviews program and financial data. It then discusses and votes on major policy proposals brought forth by senior management--things like starting or closing a product line, building a new plant or selling/closing an existing one, major outsourcing or insourcing decisions, changes to pension plans, hiring or firing senior executives etc. It isn't and can't possibly be involved in the day-to-day engineering, manufacturing, purchasing, sales, or administration operations. Between the Board and the first line worker are several layers of management who must daily implement the generalized policies through development of detailed guidelines and job instructions. Every level of management has its specific responsibilities for everything under its control, to include safety.
I'm glad that Canadian construction safety "suddenly" increased when managers became responsible. They should have been accountable all along.
Mar 16, 2024 14:57:29 #
Longshadow wrote:
How about the designers and fabricators. They were part of it also. 
Forget that someone other than Boeing may actually be responsible.
OR, simply something called an accident.
Forget that someone other than Boeing may actually be responsible.
OR, simply something called an accident.
Your original post only mentioned board members, so I responded to that. Do you intend to create separate posts for each type of job among the tens of thousands of people involved in the production of a large commercial aircraft?
Mar 16, 2024 14:38:23 #
Your point assumes that Board members deliberately violate the law, a fact not in evidence. You also assume that there is a perfectly obvious simple solution to every problem, which is just not the case in highly competitive, very technologically complex reality.
Every major company has to be concerned about liability, because their very size makes them prime targets for greedy litigators. But being sued when not at fault is just as bad as being sued when at fault. Today the cost of litigation is so astronomical, most suits result in some sort of settlement. If you doubt that, just look at your insurance bills. Are they going up or going down?
Every major company has to be concerned about liability, because their very size makes them prime targets for greedy litigators. But being sued when not at fault is just as bad as being sued when at fault. Today the cost of litigation is so astronomical, most suits result in some sort of settlement. If you doubt that, just look at your insurance bills. Are they going up or going down?
Mar 16, 2024 14:26:24 #
FYI, Boeing's headquarters is in Arlington Virginia, not Chicago.
Regardless of headquarters location, every business corporation MUST make a profit. That profit is demanded by the investors who put up the capital to create and operate the business. If the company doesn't make a profit, it goes out of business. So, profit is essential just to stay in business.
The idea that a business simply chooses between doing quality work and making a profit is a silly daydream. It isn't an either/or. Companies that make junk products in aviation don't survive. Boeing was forced to find ways to streamline operations in order to survive the cut-throat cost-competition from government-subsidized Airbus. But safety was NEVER disregarded.
Research and development of new manufacturing technologies and new materials changed manufacturing processes significantly and were more economical. Eliminating unprofitable product lines [e.g., the MacDonald Douglas MD-90 (AKA Boeing 717), Boeing 727 and 757, certain satellite programs, and the digital video transmission business] along with eliminating the thousands of job redundancies that resulted from major mergers with North American, Hughes Aerospace, and MacDonald Douglas were other sources of cost reductions. And all along the way, Boeing's unions won industry leading wages.
You have no idea how many thousands of people were involved in creating the tens of thousands of pages written to describe all the training, operating, and maintaining instructions for Boeing aircraft. Yes, there can and will always be improvements. But there is a point at which humans cannot absorb and remember everything. And there is no set of perfect instructions that can prevent any possible source of human error.
Regardless of headquarters location, every business corporation MUST make a profit. That profit is demanded by the investors who put up the capital to create and operate the business. If the company doesn't make a profit, it goes out of business. So, profit is essential just to stay in business.
The idea that a business simply chooses between doing quality work and making a profit is a silly daydream. It isn't an either/or. Companies that make junk products in aviation don't survive. Boeing was forced to find ways to streamline operations in order to survive the cut-throat cost-competition from government-subsidized Airbus. But safety was NEVER disregarded.
Research and development of new manufacturing technologies and new materials changed manufacturing processes significantly and were more economical. Eliminating unprofitable product lines [e.g., the MacDonald Douglas MD-90 (AKA Boeing 717), Boeing 727 and 757, certain satellite programs, and the digital video transmission business] along with eliminating the thousands of job redundancies that resulted from major mergers with North American, Hughes Aerospace, and MacDonald Douglas were other sources of cost reductions. And all along the way, Boeing's unions won industry leading wages.
You have no idea how many thousands of people were involved in creating the tens of thousands of pages written to describe all the training, operating, and maintaining instructions for Boeing aircraft. Yes, there can and will always be improvements. But there is a point at which humans cannot absorb and remember everything. And there is no set of perfect instructions that can prevent any possible source of human error.
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