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Jan 14, 2024 14:51:31   #
Curmudgeon wrote:
Easy question. First decision, PC or Mac, desk top or laptop. If PC, which I use, then at least 32 gigs RAM. Then build everything else around the best video card you can afford. Decide what else is important to you. Processor is less important than video card. At least 4TB SSD drive. Any money left over? More VRAM.


Op said that they want PC.
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Jan 13, 2024 21:09:20   #
Ltgk20 wrote:
I guess I see Sony's a9iii as several things. First, I believe it is valid that Sony wanted the bragging rights that come with being the first CMOS, full frame, stacked sensor camera. They're a major player in the sensor market and a large player in the camera market and this gets people talking. Next, there are some photographers who will generate additional income with this camera. It will shoot at speeds and in ways that allow things (banding elimination or very high sync speeds) or make things easier than other cameras (high frame rate, etc.). I suspect the number of photographers who need this will be relatively small. Then there will be another group of people who want it, for whatever reason they do, and they can afford it, so they'll buy it and enjoy it, regardless of its limitations.

Truthfully, I think the A1 was very much in this vein as well. When it was released there was nothing like it. It was a tour de force and would do some things no other camera would do at the time. Like the a9iii, there were some who turned the capabilities into profits. However, I suspect there were many more who bought the camera because they wanted it and could afford it. Sony picked up many wildlife and birding photogs because of this camera and I know very few people who make any real money shooting these genres. It doesn't matter though, because people, especially those in wealthier countries, buy lots of stuff they don't need. As a side note, I think Nikon is currently capitalizing best on this with their wildlife and birding lens lineup. I suspect the majority of 400f4.5s, 180-200, 400f2.8TC, 600f2.8TC and 600f6.3 buyers aren't making lots of money with their kit, they're shooting as a hobby.

Finaly, with respect to dynamic range, for years Canon lagged Sony and Nikon. The 5Dmkiii had relatively abysmal dynamic range (1 to 2 stops behind depending on which camera it was compared to). Amazingly enough, though, it sold amazingly well, was used to produce countless photo contest winners and served many photographers very well across all genres. More broadly, there were many years in which Canon's dynamic range was behind (a stop or two, depending on the year and comparison), and they did lose some buyers to Sony or Nikon for this reason, but they still chugged along making cameras which sold and performed quite well; well enough to keep them at the top of the heap from a volume standpoint. For some, the dynamic range of the a9iii will be a deal breaker, but for many uses, it will likely not make much difference.
I guess I see Sony's a9iii as several things. Fir... (show quote)


Good post.
Remember though that the R5 DR outperforms the Z9, Z7 and a1.
You are correct in the other points except that UHH is a DR die on the cross group of pixel peepers.
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Jan 13, 2024 19:04:50   #
Ed Atts wrote:
I am considering the purchase of the canon R7 AND 100 TO 500 r lens. Are any UHH members using this combination and what is their opinion of this combination? I have used a Canon 7D 2 and the canon 100 to 400 since 2014. It will be used almost exclusively for wildlife photography.
Thanks for any replies.


Sounds good if budget allows.
I got the R7 and kept my 100-400mm L MII and have been very happy with it. It is a bit larger in aperture and works wonderfully and sharp and fast with the 2X III on it giving 200-800mm.
Something to consider.
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Jan 13, 2024 17:01:28   #
Grahame wrote:
People might take you seriously if you actually substantiated these ridiculous comments you make. How about giving an example of these lies you refer to here?

Or are we seeing yet another example of your pathetic attempt to retain your drama queen status?

So you are saying the global shutter sensor is as good or superior to other sensors.
You prove it.
I have proved my point.
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Jan 13, 2024 15:48:26   #
gwilliams6 wrote:
UHHers lets get real here. The ONLY reason architect put up this thread is his anti-Sony, pro-Canon mindset, just a fact. It is his answer to all the threads touting this historical release from Sony, heaven forbid, from Sony first and NOT from Canon. LOL

All the major makers, including Canon, have been in a race to get the first fullframe global sensor shutter hybrid camera to market. Trust me if Canon had been first, you would have seen architect singing its praises far and wide here in UHH, LOL

Global sensor shutter from Sony and others have been around in industrial cameras and some cinema cameras for awhile. The A9III with its global sensor shutter in a fullframe hybird camera is a historic release, no matter the naysayers.

All makers will continue to make BSI, and BSI stacked mirrorless cameras, in addition to having their own global shutter release.

The A9III and global sensor shutters aren't for everyone, but they ARE for many pros and hobbyists alike that will make great use of its exceptional speed with absolutely no rolling shutter in stills and video, and more.

All rolling sensor shutters, including the best of the fast stacked sensors like in the Nikon Z9/Z8, Canon R3, Sony A9/A9II and A1 still are affected by rolling shutter in certain situations with certain fast subjects and fast panning in video and stills.

Only a true global shutter eliminates all rolling shutter, eliminates all banding and flicker issues, and allows flash sync at all shutter speeds, just the facts.

Does everyone need a global shutter camera, of course not. And don't expect all makers to have them in all formats and all price ranges. For now they will be a pricey premium option for pros and hobbyists that can afford them and can use them.

I personally currently have stacked BSI sensor 50mp Sony A1; BSI sensor 61mp A7RV, and 12mp BSI sensor videocentric A7SIII. I shoot all subjects, worldwide . I dont necessarily need a global shutter for landscapes, but yes I could use it for sports ,fast action and fast wildlife, and even for portraits with flash at high sync speeds.

Is there a slight trade-off with dynamic range and high ISO noise at this point in global shutter development, yes. But not so much that I cant get rid of any excess noise in post, and still have plenty of dynamic range for all my professional uses, just a fact.

I know many fellow pros, like myself who have pre-ordered the A9III, and will use its global sensor shutter to great advantage.

Just follow the great A9III global shutter sensor images you will see from the Super Bowl, NCAA Basketball Tourney, Major League Baseball, Grand Slam Tennis, and the Summer Olympics and from top wildlife shooters around the world.

Then make your own decision if this Sony A9III, and global shutter sensor cameras are worthy of the praise they are getting, and not what UHHer architect has to say to try and diss it, and diss anything Sony, LOL.

From PetaPixel Jan. 5, 2024:
For Pros, The Sony a9 III’s Speed Will Be Worth the Image Quality Tradeoff

https://petapixel.com/2024/01/05/for-pros-the-sony-a9-iiis-speed-will-be-worth-the-image-quality-tradeoff/

Cheers and best to you all, whatever brand you prefer.
UHHers lets get real here. The ONLY reason archite... (show quote)


You are so misinformed and silly as you always are.
I do call out truths where they are when others can only lie about things. This keeps people from being misinformed which is rampant here if trying to justify a purchase.
Go back to your usual hating in the attic where you belong.
I was curious the see the pretzels the UHH crowd would bend themselves into trying to justify a poor quality IQ camera just because it has a global shutter that is currently found in thousands of precision industrial and cinema cameras already.
And yes, poor quality as has been defined here hundreds of times by others. Williams is an attic dweller that hates others who disagree with him and drags it into other sections to rtry to get the post removed for his pleasure such as his post here.
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Jan 13, 2024 10:51:44   #
MrBob wrote:
No, and you can't dial 911 either... Embrace both for their individual strengths !


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Jan 13, 2024 08:48:52   #
billnikon wrote:
Reviews have been on pre-production models so far. Until PRODUCTION models get into the hands of consumers we will not be able to accurately forecast results.


And in the last 20 years how different are "preproduction models" from the introduced product?
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Jan 13, 2024 08:21:35   #
Longshadow wrote:
Of no consequence for me.
I replace phones only when they quit working.
I have no idea what's in my current phone,
and don't really care.
It has a sensor.........


Precisely, I believe my current cell phone is 10 years old or possibly more.
Perhaps I will get one of those amazing Jitterbug phones next.
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Jan 13, 2024 08:15:19   #
JimH123 wrote:
The severe problems are only problems to those who deem them to be.

The A9III has a base ISO of 250. It is not going to compete with the other camera offerings in the area of noise and dynamic range. Where it will excel is areas that speed is paramount such as sports, or where ridiculous firing speeds are needed for the flash. It is a niche product, and for those that need what it does, it will be fine. And we do not yet even know how bad it really is. All we have seen is a preproduction release without even RAW capability. Soon we will know more.

But this is not the camera for everyone. It is not a general purpose camera.

It is true that global shutter has been around for quite some time. But mainly in industrial applications. The weaknesses have been visible for all to see. But this is the first for a camera of this type. Sony has broken the ice, and many are now aware of Global Shutter. This is good. We may not soon see another Global Shutter camera since certain things do need to be improved. But some of the best sensor engineers in the world will be all over this. It is likely that some breakthroughs will happen.
The severe problems are only problems to those who... (show quote)


Amazingly the back tracking hypocrisy expressed here.
A couple of years ago if your brand had the DR, noise, ISO, resolution etc..numbers of the a9III the camera would have been condemned as pretty worthless.
Birders especially here.
Remember, global shutters are in no way new to digital sensors, been around for years they just fail still to this day to meet the image quality, at least formerly here, of photographers who pixel peep every inch of the photo.
These are observations that are facts.
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Jan 12, 2024 21:07:22   #
JimH123 wrote:
Nikon has managed to greatly reduce the sensor read time and they have a very good product. But it is not Global Shutter, thus has restrictions in things it can do compared to what the Sony can do.


So you believe that there are no severe problems with the global shutter?
It is fast is all I see with many IQ sacrifices in order to get the speed.
The Sony A9III is not the first or unique global shutter. They have been around for years but for reasons given still fall way short of scanning sensors which all other major cameras have including all other Sony.
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Jan 12, 2024 18:49:21   #
BebuLamar wrote:
Nikon doesn't have the global shutter and yet they don't have the mechanical shutter either in their Z8 and Z9. I haven't heard any complaints on this.


So?
Nikon still uses a scanning sensor like all the other cameras made by everyone else.
So no big deal if they forgot the shutter.
This post is not about your Nikon it is about global shutter sensors.
Duh.
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Jan 12, 2024 17:37:58   #
After seeing the camera global shutter sensor recently introduced the question arises.
Was the global shutter sensor rushed into production just to be first?
It seems to have sacrificed most features people here are adamant as being necessary for decent photos today especially low noise, high DR and great low light performance.
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Jan 12, 2024 08:31:21   #
Delderby wrote:
Did you actually enter a competition? Otherwise, of concern, is where did they get hold of the picture?


The photo looks like any one of thousands of nearly identical photos seen of birds on the internet.
And if someone has taken 10s of thousands of near identical bird shots there is no way of knowing if it is theirs or just one available on the internet.
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Jan 11, 2024 21:38:10   #
Spirit Vision Photography wrote:
A few of my street snaps.

View my photos at: https://www.spiritvisionphotography.com/Street-Life

SPV


More than a few.
Interesting, so yours are primarily people.
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Jan 11, 2024 21:36:19   #
srg wrote:
If we could just divert 1% of our Ukraine budget to create a "Spam Force" we would no longer get spam.
But of course our Military Industrial Complex could not make as much of a profit.



End Afghanistan they needed something somewhere to keep the factories running.
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