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Oct 22, 2023 05:40:01   #
Texcaster wrote:
Never could have happened on Pelosi's watch. With similar close numbers, no one even farted without the nod.


One of the keys to understanding Pelosi is that she did not let the fringe left her party lead her around by the nose. A lesson that My Kevin missed entirely. But that's what happens when position is more important than principle.
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Oct 22, 2023 05:13:20   #
Racmanaz wrote:
LOL You are lying and being deceptive. You said and I quote "Jim Jordan, MTG, and Matt “the molester” Gaetz .." <<<< Nowhere in that comment did you say "I believe", you actually made an accusation and you can't even back up that accusation with evidence.


You are a smoking little logical fallacy factory aren't you? In a few short exchanges you have presented the following:
1) Out of context argument
2) Misdirection
3) Ad hominem
4) Gratuitous insult
5) Irrelevant response
6) Misattribution
7) False accusation

and you have done this while managing not to say a single word about the content of the OP or my response.

That is quite an accomplishment. However I have limited time for your particular brand of amusing stupidity. So it's game over troll boy.
--Baz out
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Oct 22, 2023 04:43:38   #
Effate wrote:
I understand that. Your cite was a confession within the federal system germane to a case brought in federal court. My question involved cross pollination using evidence obtained in the state case. I would think the causes of action would have to be independently proven in the federal case as the law may be different, the causes of action different so they would have to renegotiate pleas and any cooperation. Your the attorney not me. I’m just asking.


I am not deeply knowledgable about this particular topic or Federal criminal procedures in general.My response was based on generalized legal principles not any particular procedure as there are maby exceptions to any priciple.

But I am confident of this: Jack Smith knows more about this than both of us put together.
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Oct 21, 2023 13:08:44   #
Racmanaz wrote:
Where is your evidence that “Matt “the molester”?? You intentionally believe that with no evidence yet you deny that Joe Biden is a pedophile when there’s plenty of video and photo evidence of his actions.


What I posted I believe. Therefore it cannot be, by definition, a lie. You should refrain from using words you don't understand.

Further, the context of the OP was the dysfunction of the House which is wholly a Republican problem. But then, taking things out of context is another one of your specialties isn't it?
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Oct 21, 2023 12:51:07   #
rwoodvira wrote:
I don't like the debt situation; but if we do not stop Russia and terrorist groups now; the lessons of history is that if not corrected, it will only be more costly financially and in lives later. Reference - Neville Chamberlin.


In an interview last week Mark Milley stated that if we allow Russia to prevail we can count on doubling our defense budget over in the coming years. We know what appeasement did for Hitler not that long ago.


Supporting Ukraine is the best value for money we get in the entire Defense Department. Ukraine support makes up a small percentage of our entire Defense Department in exchange we have gutted a major adversary in Europe. I think it's money well spent.
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Oct 21, 2023 12:31:34   #
Racmanaz wrote:
The DNC is also continuing circus of lies, deceit, and propaganda; and everybody gets a free ticket. You actually believe only the Republican party lies, deceives and pushes their propaganda??? BOTH parties do it equally.

As usual you missed the point or more accurately, you don't have a point at all. And when you do not have a point, you try to change the subject and try to refute an argument that has not been made. Classic logical fallacy that is one of your specialties.

The post was not about the DNC or the RNC. The post was about the Republican’s inability to form and maintain a functioning government. Nancy Pelosi, on the other hand, (who people like you love to hate) had the same margins when she was speaker as the Republicans have now. But under Pelosi, the House functioned because she was focused, disciplined, and knew how to legislate. Quite unlike Jim (aka “Gym”) Jordan who in 16 years in the House, has never sponsored a bill that became law.
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Oct 21, 2023 12:06:27   #
Effate wrote:
Are you certain that the federal court can use the evidence from a state court to prove their case? Seems to me the federal prosecutor would have to offer evidence independently and germane to the counts being charged. I could see evidence being used from state courts if the state court ruling was being constitutionally challenged in federal court.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3501
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Oct 13, 2023 13:03:23   #
dennis2146 wrote:
You know how you insulted me little Baz, about me being in law enforcement and correction and how I KNOW these things. Here is another perspective for YOU my little BFF Baz. You are an ATTORNEY, or so you tell us. You should KNOW every one of those people waiting trial is INNOCENT until proven GUILTY. THAT was my point to your other BFF Krackhead. It would seem the important players, the villains of the January 6th riot have been tried and are imprisoned. But many were arrested for simple trespass and nothing further. There are videos on record showing the police allowing people into the Capitol Building. As an attorney you should KNOW those people could not possibly be guilty of trespassing IF they were allowed in by the police or other Capitol Building staff. As an attorney it would seem those people should at least be released on bail if not on their own recognizance. How do you not know these things? You need to pay attention more.

Now how on earth do you seem to forget these things, IMPORTANT THINGS, that have kept Americans a free people since the Revolutionary War. Almost every one of you Left Wingers seem to forget the RIGHTS Americans were granted in the Constitution, You know, the 10 Amendments your side wants so much to take back from We the People, to do away with those freedoms given to us in the Constitution. It sure as shit is not the Right Winger who want to do away with the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th Amendments, is it? Nope lil Baz, that would be the lying corrupt Left Wingers like you.

Your reference to the single helix did not go over my head. I simply thought you had no idea what the hell you were talking about. Because I did not comment does not mean for a moment it went over my head. As you now admit, it was you who commented incorrectly and now make yourself look like an ass.

I have never said those already tried have been improperly tried OR I know more than the judge or jury. I don't recall any comments from me on that point. Fact IS I did agree those affiliated with the Proud Boys or Oathkeepers were guilty as charged and should be in prison for as long as possible.

You have this idiotic little habit of bringing up things not previously mentioned and then saying I am guilty of doing something not yet discussed.

I am saying, have said in other threads, those still awaiting trial for the January 6th riot should be released either on bail or on their own recognizance. As an attorney you should be agreeing with me because that is what is called for in the Constitution, is it not? Aren't citizens to be given a fair trial and in a TIMELY manner? Now CERTAINLY, as an attorney (are you REALLY) you are aware of that and should also be demanding it.

Got anything else little Spaz, oh sorry, I mean Baz. Maybe Spaz does fit though. Your comments are really boring the shit out of me. Right now your posts show you playing the FOOL.

ANNNNT, there goes the buzzer. Sorry but there is no consolation prize for the LOSER.

I forgot to ask, what do the words, OIST, and, OVWE, mean? I don't think I have seen those words before. Are they from a foreign language, Portuguese perhaps, in common usage in some other country perhaps?

Dennis
You know how you insulted me little Baz, about me ... (show quote)


"You know how you insulted me little Baz, about me being in law enforcement and correction and how I KNOW these things."

Aww... You can dish it out but can't take It I see. You can't engage on ideas so you retreat to the personal attack and then whine when I return the favor in very small measure. Que lastima.

Here is another perspective for YOU my little BFF Baz. You are an ATTORNEY, or so you tell us. You should KNOW every one of those people waiting trial is INNOCENT until proven GUILTY."

Again with the diminutive nicknames and all caps. Does that make you feel like a big alpha male? No one (other than you) is impressed by that and rather than big alpha male it makes you look like a simple low rent school yard bully. And thin skinned and easily triggered as well. It may be indicative of some psycho-sexual insecuity that should be addressed by a professional. Really-get help.

You should be embarrassed that you do not know that bail is not a right and there are several reasons for pretrial detention. And all those who are denied bail are afforded due process and the judge decides.Got it genius? And the rest of our comments on the subject are utter gibberish, underscoring the point that you relly do not understand the topic.

Besides I offered to discuss with you the merits of each individual case--you know, like adults. But have not responded. Why? I have some theories--want to hear them?

I"t would seem the important players, the villains of the January 6th riot have been tried and are imprisoned. But many were arrested for simple trespass and nothing further. "

That was not clear from wither your literal response or the context. You shuld probably be more judicious when-ridiculing the writing skills of others. Also, see above comment on "can dish it out but can't take it".

"Your reference to the single helix did not go over my head. I simply thought you had no idea what the hell you were talking about"

Really, you are making this too easy. If the comment did not go over your head, the you knew exactly what I was talking about.

"I am saying, have said in other threads, those still awaiting trial for the January 6th riot should be released either on bail or on their own recognizance."

This is as interesting as your commentary gets because it brings us back to my original point. How is it that you know more than the judge-not having seen the evidence, the briefs or the motions? It is a mystery.The only rational explanation is that you do not understand the topic. Prove me wrong.

Do yourself a favor. Do just a tiny bit of research on why people can be lawfully denied bail.Then see if any of those conditions apply to the 15 or so defendants awaiting trial in jail. It would do you some good to know hat you are talking about before barfing out some half-baked BS.
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Oct 13, 2023 02:57:14   #
Racmanaz wrote:
Of course I do, not as bad as you though. Not a big deal. I'm not making fun of an old man going blind, I had no idea what your age was nor did I have any idea about your eye sight so how could I have made fun of an old guy going blind?


Now you know. But even after I revealed it, you made a wise crack, didn't you?

Bit it does not bother me as I could not be more indifferent to your opinion of me. Ig insult is the only tool you have, then use it.
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Oct 13, 2023 02:35:39   #
Racmanaz wrote:
What does this have to do with sin?? Your spelling suffers again.


You make typos too. And making fun of an old guy going blind is not exactly an inspiring testament to the Gospel. Consult your pastor.
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Oct 13, 2023 02:29:21   #
Racmanaz wrote:
Your spelling ability is atrocious.


Well, Rac, I admit to typos. For me, advancing age has brought with it visual impairment so I do not always see them especially hen typing on my phone.

And you are not perfect either. You have made the astonishing laim to be a devout Christian, Tell me what your faith teabed about casting the first stone.
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Oct 13, 2023 02:11:40   #
dennis2146 wrote:
Since this post is also a sign of your illiteracy I will keep mine short.

You are a LIAR saying I don’t answer. You simply don’t like what I say so play dumb. Do try to get back on page with some common sense. It eludes you completely.

From your piss poor reply it would seem YOU are the third grader in this scenario.

Dennis


From your reply to Frank T:
"No little krack head. I would give them a break because they are not guilty. "

See page 7 for full context.

So let's leave your safe place of personal insult and back to substance. One of several questions you never answered: How do you know more than the judge and jury who saw the evidence and tried the case?

Oh, and one more thing. I owe you an apology. The "single helix" description from a prior oist that tiggered you was a reference to defective DNA (not directed at you BTW). I should have known that would go ovwe your head, Sorry.
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Oct 12, 2023 13:49:23   #
Racmanaz wrote:
Nope, sorry to burst your bubble, but I am not wrong. I’m never wrong ever.


You are always wrong, Rac. You're just never in doubt.

They are not the same.
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Oct 12, 2023 13:47:05   #
dennis2146 wrote:
Well first off it is hard to determine what you are talking about due to your piss poor writing skills. You need to tell us how you ever got to be an attorney, IF you are telling the truth, doubtful at best, when you cannot even post something that is easily readable and understood. Then you attack me for not understanding the mother tongue. Holy SHIT, huh?

I KNOW who you were referencing. I believe I have stated those people, Proud Boys and Oath Keepers deserve the sentences they received. I have no problem with that nor I suspect does any other Conservative. How absolutely like you on the Left to lump all of us in the same basket of deplorables that your grand leader, whore and gutter slut, Hillary Clinton, did.

How like you to ASSUME all Conservatives who support(ed) and think President Trump did a great job as President cannot see some negativity in SOME of his actions. Yet you on the lying corrupt Left Wing completely refuse to accept the lies and outright corruption done by President Biden. At least Conservatives are perfectly willing to admit Trump was not perfect. You Left Wingers cannot even admit Biden is a brain dead Dementia bound liar.

Here is an important CLUE Bucko, I will write what I choose because I believe what I write. Your acceptance is not necessary nor even wanted by me and most likely other Conservatives as well. How like you maroons on the Left to try to dictate what others post.

Tell us please what the HELL the following words, used in your poorly written post even mean, oi, comvovted, aboit a thusand, smae. Do you even know?

By the way, I LOVE your sentence stating, "That would take far more work than barfing our unsubstantiated allegations to try to dress your opinions as facts." The best part of course is when you claim I am barfing our, YOURS, unsubstantiated allegations..." Why then are your allegations unsubstantiated?

Your very poor writing skills make me wonder whose side you are on. Better luck next time. Perhaps you can get either the little princess or lil denny to proofread your post before submitting.

Dennis
Well first off it is hard to determine what you ar... (show quote)


Your opinion of my writing skills is bot germane to the topic. This is a trope yoou aways retreat to when you cannot answer substantively. No answer? No problem. Get personal. You have npt res[obed substantively to anything in my past. If you have trouble with that sentence let me know and I will get a third grader to dumb it down for you.

You stated that the people referenced were bot guilty. Reread your own thread. If you have trouble with that sentence let me know and I will get a third grader to dumb it down for you.

The only thing you have to offer is personal attack, childish insults, name-calling and shape shifting. Reread your response if you disagree. If you have trouble with that sentence let me know and I will get a third grader to dumb it down for you.


You complain about conservatives all being lumped in the same basket? Spare me. You do it with almost ecerything you post. You did it i this very response. Have someone look up "hypocrite" in the dictionary for you. If you have trouble with that sentence let me know and I will get a third grader to dumb it down for you.

Hilary Clinton is not germane to the topic. And how to you know that HRC is my leader any more than Iknow that David Duke is yours? If you have trouble with that sentence let me know and I will get a third grader to dumb it down for you.
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Oct 11, 2023 12:48:07   #
dennis2146 wrote:
OMG!!!!! You seem to lose all ability to write clearly when you get all angry and uppity. Of course your opinion did not put those people in prison. But then again many of those people in jail are still sitting there, apparently awaiting a fair trial but have not been given an opportunity to be released on bail or their own recognizance as many offenders these days, due to Left Wing District Attorneys refusing to hold people in jail even for violent offenses. Many of those arrested on January 6th are guilty of nothing more than simple trespass, IF THAT, because video evidence shows Capitol Police ALLOWING entrance into the Capitol Building. If the police allowed entrance then there is no trespass, is there. Yet the Left still holds these people in jail awaiting trial. Even you, supposedly an attorney, should be able to state emphatically, THIS IS WRONG. But you don't due to your lying corrupt Left Wing beliefs.

Goons, you claim. You have never used that term even for murderers and rapists of the lowest order, not even for terrorists who murder, rape and maim innocent civilians. Yet you use it for those, many who were non violently protesting the last election. DAMN!!!!! If that doesn't say lots about your ability to judge fairly, huh?

Dennis
OMG!!!!! You seem to lose all ability to write cl... (show quote)

I was referencing specifically the leaders of Proud Boys and Oath Keepers. And if you had even a rudimentary grasp f the mother tongue, or if you were willing to engage in an honest exchange, you would know that and you would would not have even written the response that you did. But but whether you don't or you won't and I don't care either way. Your response was utter BS. Shape-shifting might work with the single-helix mouth breather on the stool at the end of the bar, but not with me.

The PB and OK leaders are oi prison because they are comvovted felons-not for pre-trial detention. As an ex-cop and ex prison guard I assumed you knew the difference. My bad.

And not to put too fine a point on it, there are aboit a thusand lower-level goons serving time for the smae reason. But if you think the MAGA Monkeys are being treated unfairly by pre-trial detention, provide a list and we can discuss each case in specifics.

You won't of course. That would take far more work than barfing our unsubstantiated allegations to try to dress your
opinions as facts.
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