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Apr 19, 2024 15:50:40   #
Texcaster wrote:
MAGAtard BBQ. Maybe someone should do a headcount of Rac and the other ones


Had nothing to do with Trump, hey, maybe it was Biden's long lost uncle.
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Apr 19, 2024 15:49:29   #
DaveO wrote:
Yeah, many of Putin's buddies are singing that song.


Well I am no more a Putin fan than are you, but I am not going to throw out stupid shit like you do.
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Apr 19, 2024 15:12:17   #
Triple G wrote:
It's the same article I used showing my points. How does it validate your points? It doesn't.

Stand in your ignorance, but at least others will see the truth in the meme. Are you really comfortable in your opinion and firm stance that rich people AREN't able to use stock instead of salary to avoid full income tax treatment? Because that's the truism message in the examples in the meme.


Stand or maybe wallow in your own ignorance and lack of reading comprehension, it clearly indicates that all stock based compensation is taxed as income, gains accrued after the initial issuance can be handled a bit differently but the initial compensation will be taxed as income. It also totally destroys the OP.
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Apr 19, 2024 14:29:08   #
National Park wrote:
And the far right aligns with Putin.


Stupid thing to say but of no surprise, the Ukraine is not our war nor are they a NATO member, the Ukrainian situation is an EU problem.
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Apr 19, 2024 14:23:31   #
National Park wrote:
What’s important is that Melania doesn’t have half the brain that Jill has.


BS, I have never thought of Jill Biden as being impressive just as her dissertation was far from impressive... Jill Biden "¡Si se poode, you taco people you!, now Melania can speak 7 languages and poor Jill can't even learn the word puede.
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Apr 19, 2024 14:19:28   #
robertjerl wrote:
Actually, the title Doctor is correct, just not a Medical Doctor. That is what the "D" in PHD stands for.

Bachelor's Degree, Master's Degree, Doctoral Degree is the progression and in some fields there is a Post Doctoral Degree.

So Jill Biden is a Doctor of Education whereas my daughter is a Doctor of Medicine, usually written as MD (Medical Doctor).


Yes, I know, my daughter-in-law has a PHD but nobody calls her doctor, of course she does not suffer the vanity that "Dr." Jill does.
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Apr 19, 2024 14:12:07   #
Triple G wrote:
Not at all - and this is coming from someone who administered stock compensation programs.


First of all, the stock given instead of salary takes that compensation out of the payroll tax realm so there is tax avoidance of all local, state, Federal Income, FUTA, SUTA taxes.

There are RSUs, grants, and options and they can all be income and tax deferred, but still used as loan collateral which is money rich people can get at a lot less cost of capital than salary.

Usually, stock compensation is granted within Non-Qualified Exec. Comp. programs where the tax rules are all different and once RSU, grant or options are fully vested, they get exercised through non-cash Roth Programs. Taxes are minimized all along the trail of paperwork.

It proves the point of the meme that rich people's taxation process has many more tax payment avoidance and minimization options. But, in your thinking you know better after reading one paragraph and call that truism as BS. You should stick with things you know about.
Not at all - and this is coming from someone who a... (show quote)


I stand by my statements and am unaccepting of yours and certainly the OP's. Now if you want to argue argue with these guys.

https://www.thetaxadviser.com/issues/2019/may/stock-based-compensation-basics.html
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Apr 19, 2024 13:19:22   #
DaveO wrote:
Remember, the guilty POS should get a fair trial despite his mouth.


You stocking up on pitchforks and torches?
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Apr 19, 2024 13:06:54   #
Triple G wrote:
Where were options mentioned in OP?

What's BS as you called it?


What is wrong with you, you argue just to argue, read the link I posted it will explain it all to you The OP states that an executive can receive $1million in stock and use it to take out a loan and never pay taxes on it which is total BS. He would have to pay income tax at the moment that the stock becomes his property, he has some options and tax incentives as to how he may do that but regardless he will pay income tax on those stocks, not capital gains taxes as the OP states. In the second option he says that the executive will only pay capital gains taxes, that is a blatant lie.....
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Apr 19, 2024 12:58:09   #
Kraken wrote:
How would you know unless you are a window-peeping pervert?


So Kraken, what do you think of Slo's uncle being eaten by cannibals? Do you think that they made Biden soup or do you think that they grilled him as steaks?
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Apr 19, 2024 12:48:58   #
Triple G wrote:
From the article you posted.

"But with a Section 83(b) election, you can instead recognize ordinary income when you receive the stock. This election, which you must make within 30 days after receiving the stock, allows you to convert potential future appreciation from ordinary income to long-term capital gains income and defer it until the stock is sold."

It's you with the BS shovel.

How does it differ from OP?


Because you have to claim the initial stock value as income and appreciation there after becomes gains, or you can differ claiming the stock at which time the value of the appreciated stock will have to be declared as income when it vests... you have 30 days to make that decision.

You are paying income tax on the stock gift either way, gains only apply to future appreciation and if you don't differ then you pay income tax on the total value at some point in the future.

The scenarios in his post are wrong, especially the third scenario is totally BS.
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Apr 19, 2024 12:32:25   #
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Tomorrow the alternates will complete the set. They could be ready on Monday.


In the meantime the new left aligns with Hamas. This election will be interesting.
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Apr 19, 2024 12:30:34   #
Triple G wrote:
The entire topic is about the people you mentioned; not about business!


Yes, but if you look at the tax consequences of stock options the OP is completely erroneous.
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Apr 19, 2024 12:04:35   #
RixPix wrote:
So you know…


Total BullS**t.

https://imc-cpa.com/blog/tax-consequences-of-your-executive-compensation-package/
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Apr 19, 2024 11:39:32   #
Kraken wrote:
Jill Biden is not bad looking at all for her age.


She's not a doctor either, she has a PHD in education, it was widely reported that in her dissertation she made many grammatically and logical errors..... So much for education in this country, but, she is a great supporter of the teacher's unions that have only served to drive education in this country into the dirt.
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