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Dec 4, 2023 01:37:45   #
scooter1 wrote:
I'm sure you've heard the phrase "actions speak louder than words" however I'm not sure you fully understand the phrase. This is in reference to page 2 of replies to this post where you indeed do "attack someone's intelligence because of a typo". Fear not that hypocrisy seems to be ingrained in anyone who is left of center.


I do not think I hae ever attacked anyone for a typo. Prove me wrong and I will correct the record.

I said nothing about his intelligence. I only noticed that he had a whopper of a typo in the title of his own thread—something for which he routinely attacks the intelligence of other people, especially when he runs out of ideas. Which usually does not take very long.


The hypocrisy is his, not mine. Get a reading tutor.
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Dec 3, 2023 09:55:45   #
dennis2146 wrote:
Hey!!!!! Yes I do have a whopper. Awkward????? Not at all. Thank you for noticing and pointing it out for all of us. I have said NUMEROUS times I am not perfect. I do make mistakes. For future reference here is what we call a CLUE. I WILL make more mistakes and would appreciate anyone pointing them out to me.

Now do this for me Baz. Contrast my attitude when you point out mistakes I have made compared to those on the LEFT when they make mistakes. Do you notice my attitude is somewhat better by a LOT than those on the Left who generally speaking, like the little princess, lil denny, Bill 45 and a whole slew of others make mistakes like mine every day. There is no stopping some of those on the Left, so proud of their cockamamie mistakes, they are.

Thank you Baz for pointing out the error in the title. I saw it too late after the time limit to make any changes. Apparently you are the only one to have noticed, you and me that is.

Now while we are discussing mistakes, take a good look at your post to me. Does the word, in, usually have the letter, O, in it, as in oin? Awkward, NO?

Dennis
Hey!!!!! Yes I do have a whopper. Awkward????? ... (show quote)


I am not discussing mistakes here Dennis, because I really don't care about typos in a brain-fart forum. Trying to attack someone’s intelligence because of a typo is not my gig, but yours. I just enjoy hoisting you on your own petard.
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Dec 2, 2023 13:25:42   #
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
He advised many. He was on the cover of Time magazine, 15 times.


The only war criminal to receive a Nobel Peace Prize, so there's that.
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Dec 2, 2023 13:22:04   #
dennis2146 wrote:
https://x.com/robertdunlap947/status/1726581309479493922?s=42

I wish you all luck,

Dennis


For someone who loves to get righteous over the typos of others, you sure have a whopper oin your title.

Awkward, no?
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Nov 21, 2023 04:38:28   #
FrumCA wrote:
Please don't deflect to ignorance. I don't have time to write everything up to compensate for your laziness. Google is your friend.


Your assertion--your burdon of proof.
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Nov 21, 2023 04:35:30   #
FrumCA wrote:
Since the thread is about Obama and Biden, there's no guessing that your TDS has affected your reading ability. This is a common issue with you though so your deflection is not unexpected.


Context: the thread is not just abput Obama and Biden, but the stark contrast to you-know-who. Your response os the actual deflection and is too clever by half.
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Nov 20, 2023 13:27:16   #
Truth Seeker wrote:
https://twitter.com/Israel/status/1723664047692763459?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1723664047692763459%7Ctwgr%5E6538d5760f9c1cb7039490df71489a6e001648af%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Flive-news%2Fnovember-12-israel-hamas-war


Now that your all powerful Sun God is aping the rhetoric of the actual Hitler, its the left that are the Nazis. Got it.
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Nov 5, 2023 01:50:41   #
Effate wrote:
Obviously you know my point. Some work hard to mitigate costs while other’s expect someone else to clean up their mess. You know and I know the United States is where well healed persons come for world class care. I’m sure Europe has some awesome hospitals and doctors but I’ll stick with the U.S. of A. Additionally, put the strain of America’s unhealthy population on any of the systems and watch it bend if not break so we may be comparing apples to oranges.


You didn't respond to either of my points. From that I can only assume that you have no lived experience with healthcare systems that are different than what you're used to and you have no evidence that the underlying data are flawed.

Check.
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Nov 4, 2023 18:14:05   #
Effate wrote:
When many argue for universal health care they point to the cost in the United States and argue the outcomes are not as good as some countries with government run health care. I am skeptical of that assertion. I would argue that the United States is still the gold standard for innovation and technology in medicine. Our wait times for procedures are shorter. I believe the outcomes as measured are in large part due to our citizens being some of the least fit, least healthy humans on the planet. We are sedentary, eat like shit, consume too much alcohol, drugs (illicit and prescribed) and consequently have a population that is obese, suffer from type 2 diabetes, heart disease, various cancers, kidney disease, sclerotic livers, lung disease and many other maladies that even though the predisposition may be genetically passed are certainly exacerbated by behavioral choices. As I said, I realize many have a genetic predisposition for certain illnesses but we do very little to preempt illness rather are reactive (often times too late). I won’t argue our insurance system leaves something to be desired and government run health care may work well for some but I view it like other insurance that bites me in the ass. I don’t live on the coast, hurricane alley or in a wildfire area. I have never had a ticket or accident (that was my fault) in my 75 (in two months) years. Yet, my rates continually rise for my homeowners and auto insurance. I do what I can to stay fit and avoid doctors and medications but know I will be paying for the bad drivers or those who live on the coast version of healthcare consumers. Seems like one more step closer to the government being all things for all people just like the universal income Obama proposed Tuesday. What ever happened to work hard and be rewarded for it. I don’t like people’s wholesale use of terms like racist, Nazi, fascist, socialist but if it walks like a duck…. I know some will respond with waaah, boohoo, you don’t care about others, etc. but I believe you reap what you sow. I guess we will replace self-actualization in the dictionary with new pronouns.
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So why are you skeptical of the data? The data is what it is whether you like it or not. Have you ever lived in a country with what you would term socialized medicine? if you have, your experiences would be helpful even anecdotal, like mine.

Now if you have some evidence that the data is flawed, I would love to see it, but I'm looking for evidence not your feelings.

And by the way I'm quite happy that you've never had a parking ticket in 75 years but that is largely irrelevant to the topic at hand.
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Nov 4, 2023 17:57:19   #
FrumCA wrote:
This is a tough one. A total government takeover of health care would expand government bureaucratic oversight, increase costs, and restrict alternatives to only government offered programs. Here's a conservative viewpoint on the subject to consider:

Self-styled “progressives” in Congress and elsewhere are proposing a government takeover of American health care. Such a takeover would destroy Americans’ existing coverage and their right to alternatives outside the government program; and it would erect a system of total political control over virtually every aspect of the financing and delivery of medical care. Nor would it ensure delivery of its central premise and promise: care for every American.

Beyond closing off individuals’ alternatives to coverage outside the government program and restricting their medical care through independent physicians, such a government takeover would also introduce an unprecedented politicization of American health care. Congress, beset by frenzied lobbying by powerful special interest groups, would ultimately determine health care budgets and spending, as well as the rules and regulations that would govern care delivery by doctors, hospitals, and other medical professionals. Patients’ personal choices, as well as the professional independence of their doctors and other medical professionals, would be subordinated to the turmoil of congressional politics and the bureaucratic machinations of distant administrators. The machinery of federal control would dwarf the existing federal bureaucratic apparatus that runs today’s Medicare, Medicaid, and Obamacare programs.

The scholars who contributed to this volume have outlined the substance of “single payer” legislation, the many promises made on its behalf, and the many costs and consequences entailed in adopting such a large and disruptive program of centralized government control. They have indicated, in impressive detail, the patient experiences in Britain and Canada, the unprecedented tax impact of single-payer legislation on the economic well-being individuals and families, and the threat that such an impersonal system poses to physician autonomy and patient freedom, including personal access to high-quality and specialized medical care.

https://www.heritage.org/article/the-truth-about-government-controlled-health-care
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Providing access to health care does not have to be and all or nothing thing. Remember the public option that was originally part of the original ACA?

Portugal, for example, has a public system and a private system. The private system works very much like it does in the United States and the public system works just like you probably think it does. Having been a consumer of the health care systems in both countries I will tell you my experience is that I have better care and outcomes in the Portuguese system. And I am not locked in to one or the other. I can use either the public system or the private system, depending on which is a better fit for what ails me. In fact, I probably have more freedom of choice than you.

Organizations like the Heritage Foundation like to scare you with the propaganda that it's a total government takeover. That is simply not true.

What is true is that in the aggregate Portugal has far better health outcomes than the United States. Also true is that no one in Portugal goes broke because they get sick.
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Nov 4, 2023 03:21:39   #
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
I'm taking advantage of Open Enrollment to switch back to Kaiser with whom I've spent most of my life. I was unhappy with experimenting with my change last year.


Should we join the rest of the world and offer free health care?

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Take any healthcare metric you want. The only metric where we are number one is cost per capita. We are simply not getting what we pay for with the American healthcare system.

It's time for a change.
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Oct 25, 2023 10:48:08   #
Blurryeyed wrote:
So, how do you feel about $33 Trillion in debt and $2 Trillion annual deficits?

Yes, I know that Trump was a big deficit spender as well so we can get that out of the way, point is that if shutting down the government is the only way to bring budgetary sanity back to DC then maybe we should not be so hard on folks like Jordan.


$2 trillion deficit is extremely dangerous- not necessarily in the short term but in the intermediate to long term. Most our debt was issued when U.S. Treasuries were yielding zero to 1% but now that your treasuries are yielding almost 5% this amount of deficit if not addressed will be catastrophic over the long term. Interest payments required in future years will start to crowd out better ways to spend our money.

that being said there are far better ways to deal with the budget deficit than shutting down the government, which in my view is pure idiocy.

believe it or not I really like some of the proposals the Republicans had when they first took over the House almost a year ago. For example, the idea of eliminating Omnibus appropriations bills is a very good one. Attaching frivolous spending to appropriations that must pass is a recipe for pure pure and is a form of public corruption.

There are other ways to reform government spending that would save us a ton without cutting program. Cost plus contraction in the Defense Department, Two examples: cost plus contracting and allocatingexpenditures into multiple Congressional districts masking it omissible ti costs cists such as in the development of the F35 weapons system.

But the fundamental problem is one of incentives, Only the party out of power cares about controlling spending, The minute the regain power, they start pending like drunken sailors—just like the other team.
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Oct 24, 2023 02:11:10   #
scooter1 wrote:
You liberals keep saying he never sponsored a bill. Well just how many legislators fit that bill. More than you know I'm sure. You don't like him because he stirred up all your liberal politicians world by telling the truth about the demonrats, kind of like Trump.


“You liberals”? Sweeping generalization aside. the Republicans put this man up for Speaker of the House --he is not just a back bench legislator.

But you're right I don't like Jordan but not for the reasons you think. hHe's an insurrectionist has been part of every government shutdown since he's been in Congress, has defied subpoenas from the very institution he wants to lead and his oversight committee has been nothing but a clown show.

He is ahkyper partisan political hack that corrodes American democracy. Let's see if the Republicans can do better.

I hope so
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Oct 23, 2023 02:56:52   #
Racmanaz wrote:
Nope, you are eons below Trump. Everybody else that’s not a Democrat is way above.


"eons"? Don't you love to make fun of my typos?At least an old guy going blind has a reason for not catching tyois. What's your excuse?

Just like when you call people liars when you don't like their opinions, you really should refrain from using words that you don't understand.
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Oct 23, 2023 02:11:26   #
scooter1 wrote:
She made the speaker position a joke. Tearing up a potus address was the most infantile thing I've seen from any legislator. Along with insider trading she is one of the most corrupt idiots in there.


You may not like her policies but to suggest that she was a joke is ridiculous. She got things done. I believe history will judge her as one of the most effective legislatures of her era.

on the other hand, the Republicans can't seem to attemd to even the most basic of legislative functions--you know, like keeping the House open.

The real joke is the Republicans even considered electing the likes of Jim Jordan to Speaker-- a man who in 16 years in Congress never sponsored a bill that became a law.
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