dpullum wrote:
"So please, once and for all: can we retire the tired fallacy that government services and socialism are one and the same? They’re not." was part of EyeSawYou post above. Of course, he is never wrong; just ask him.
Yes, they are not the same by classical all/nothing definition. Words, names, and definitions change with the times. If the US population consider that "government services" such as Health Care, Social Security are mild acceptable forms of socialism then so be it; the definition has changed. Humm, can we define the big tax cuts for the very rich a form of socialism for the rich??
Socialism is a flavoring in our social system; too much and the soup is spoiled, to little and there is no nutrition for the people born poor or met with an unfortunate happening.
The confusion.. all or nothing thinking... applies to immigration also ... closed borders or open borders... the close border people point fingers saying the Democrats want to just let anyone into the USA free flow. That is not the case, it is a fallacious argument made to confuse the masses incapable of clear thinking. The Trump supporters who think Democrats and Republicans are two football teams and do not understand that their choice has dire consequences and the rules for one side, Republicans, suppresses the choice of the people. Republicans are never wrong... so they think and convince the people.
I am an independent voter and have voted Republican about 1/3 of the time. Presently the Republican party is an extreme radical element. Argentina lost its Democracy when the Far Right Church [Catholic] and the military took over the government. Argentine's Dirty war. Tragic period.
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Social Security is NOT socialism - it's a fund that (was confiscated from me)I paid into based on my earnings. To try to lump it into socialism is disingenuous. Also, to try to lump the Interstate highway system into socialism is also a flawed argument - infrastructure is one of our government's constitutional duties, along with public safety.