WNYShooter:
Hasn't it all gone strangely quiet?
Where are all the warmists gone?
Gone to ground perhaps, when any half decent warmist zealots really should be nailing their green colours to the mast so that we can clearly identify them.
And then we can wait for them to admit they were wrong, fraudulent, venal, and that they brought real Science into disrepute.
Or maybe we can just wait until Hell freezes over. . .
Wellhiem wrote:
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/atmosphere-scientist-slams-climate-change-deniers-in-brilliant-viral-post/
Not the old '97% of Scientists' canard again please!
And no one is as good at falsifying data and distorting results as committed Warmists. Believe none of them.
Wellhiem wrote:
It doesn't make any difference. Robin Hood may or may not have existed, but the stories told about him, certainly are not true.
I was asking you.
Most people do think it makes a difference.
What has Robin Hood got to do with anything? I don't think Robin Hood has many devotees - except perhaps socialists.
Wellhiem wrote:
No. I don't believe he existed. Whoever wrote Luke clearly had his own ideas.
Do you believe Muhammad existed?
Wellhiem wrote:
No. You gave your interpretation. You told us all what you feel comfortable with believing what he meant.
So you think that Christ was not being sardonic when he said - "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me."- with no trace of irony, and in full expectation that it should be done?
And you base your rejection of Christanity on this?
Really?
Wellhiem wrote:
If Jesus spoke those words, and you don't agree with them, then don't call yourself a christian. It's fine to say "I think we should all try to be a bit nicer to each other. But I have no religion". Why do you need to belong to a club? But getting back to the OP, islam didn't come about until about 600AD. Look what was being done in the name of christianity 600 years ago. Islam will change and become watered down in the same way that christianity has. There will always be fanatical sects, but religion only serves to justify them.
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Perhaps it would be more relevant to see what is being done in the name of Allah this century. . .
So, you reject the whole of Christ's teaching because of one contentious sentence?
Evil was and is done because men were and are evil, not because they were Christians.
Mankind embraced Christianity because they wished to become better.
Much evil is done by Muslims because they are adherents to Islam, and in obedience to the teachings of their prophet.
In purely humanitarian terms, do you maintain that Islam and Christianity are morally equivalent ?
Wellhiem wrote:
All scientific evidence supports man-made climate change and more specifically global warming. To deny that, is to bury your head in the sand and take the comfortable view. Remember the legend of Atlantis.
What evidence?
What legend?
What is the Earth's temperature supposed to be?
Why the warming 'pause'; if all the 'scientists' are so knowledgeable, why didn't they predict this?
Why do climate scientists have to adjust and cherry-pick the data?
Jade Warrior wrote:
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Muslims make the same excuses for the inexcusible passages in the Koran that Christians make for the inexcusible passages in the Bible.
I make no excuses. I wont open the can of worms which is 'interpretation'.
Do you have some more inexcusable passages from the New Testament?
Wellhiem wrote:
Luke 19:27.
"But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me."
I think that's pretty much to the same effect. However, I don't find your slander to be offensive. I accept you made an honest mistake.
Yes, I apologise. You are right and I was wrong. The words are as you quote.
However, do you think that, even if taken only at their face value, they are a valid justification for rejecting Christianity?
Wellhiem wrote:
I believe Jesus said words to the effect of, "Those who will not follow me, bring them forward and slay them before me". Your religion may teach you to love one another, but it's not christianity.
If you believe that, you are wrong.
Never mind 'words to the effect' please give your New Testament reference for this remarkable interpretation. if you can't, then please retract your offensive slander.
Jade Warrior wrote:
Christ said to suffer the little children so the clergy made them suffer.
All organised religon has the potental to become subverted and evil. Christianity is no exception. How many religous leaders have fallen from grace.
Just look at the genicide being dished out as we speak in Burma by Buddists.
Yes, but Mohammedanism does not need to be subverted to extol bloody aggression and fatal fatwa; it is explicit in its teachings as is the subjugation of women.
Jade Warrior wrote:
So true, up until very recently clergy were raping children in care with absolute impunity. Yes Christianity has come a long way indeed.
Christianity is as it always has been. The offences,alas, are committed by his sinful followers.
The abominations done by 'Christians' are carried out in spite of Christ's teachings, but I think you will find the Muslim atrocities are perpetrated in accordance with, and fulfilment of, the teachings of the Koran.
There is a difference - or perhaps you don't think so?
It is gratifying that you have read 'some' of my posts.
Could you please address yourself to answering my last one, instead of indulging in offensive non sequiturs.
Jade Warrior wrote:
Have they issued direct threats against Israel as they have against the USA? I would suggest that NK does not yet have a bone to pick with Israel though of cause that could change. Anything is possible.
I suggest that the OP has a set agenda against Muslems because of his strong affiliation with Israel and does not distingush between propaganda and fact as it is not in his vested interest to do so. In this case the tail is wagging the dog.
Could you please explain what you mean by 'propoganda' and indicate which particular examples of it you are referring to?