Bobspez wrote:
On the job I'll agree with you. But in class it was all lecture except for a few lab courses with a partner, and there I'll agree with you again.
But in a lecture environment it is you and the teacher and the book and your papers that you turn in and the tests you take. I never belonged to a study group. I never talked in class (wouldn't have been allowed unless you were adressing the teacher) and never collaborated with other students outside of class. While there was a bit of Q and A in class it was very limited. In both high school and college, despite their reputations as quality schools, the main emphasis was on absorption of the teacher's interpretation of what they were teaching, and regurgitation of it on tests and papers if you wanted a good grade.
On the job I'll agree with you. But in class it wa... (
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And therein lies the rub.
I, too, sat through any number of chem, psych, and a few other types of lectures where questioning, if not outright banned, was very much discouraged. And you had the obligatory regurgitation of facts and data which I found were nearly useless. The lecture hall classes were designed to weed out a large number of freshmen and sophomores, and the universities had that down pat.
My best experiences were in smaller classes that were at the upper class (junior, senior, post-grad) levels. In my economics, finance and poli sci classes, the professors expected to be challenged. My best poli sci professor, while a dyed-in-the-wool Roosevelt Democrat, always expected one of us, especially political conservatives, to challenge her notions about how the body politic works. Just never come to class unprepared to defend your arguments.
A number of years later, when I took post grad studies, small classes of as few as five people, became the norm, not the exception.
The Greeks had it right with Aristotle, Plato, etc. The open air (literally and figuratively) setting does provide superior learning.
Now, I agree that there are types of learning that require rote methods. I know of no way to learn multiplication tables and some of the rules of grammar, where there's a magic code book for ingesting knowledge. But, when we get into learning literature, history, the so-called arts, then Socratic methods do carry the day.