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Jan 25, 2019 18:03:30   #
Texcaster wrote:
Nothing like a bit of dissent to bring out the zero sum gain, brain dead reactionaries.

If anyone questions the Fox story that must mean Nathan Phillips is the hero?? Why?? We only have videos and interviews to take a stab at what happened.

Fox has made the MAGA hat kids into righteous a "Children's Crusade". Powerful stuff for the folks that think they are under siege.

I don't know what happened but I'm not signing up for the Fox Crusader yarn.


You're trying to explain why you support child molesters but it's not going to work, feminine hygiene product texcaster. You screwed up big time, and you're ignoring the first rule of holes.

You're better off abandoning this thread and hope we forget about it. Not going to happen. Go back to Australia and stay there.
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Jan 25, 2019 16:04:07   #
This fits the MO of the feminine hygiene product texcaster.


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Jan 25, 2019 09:57:50   #
BigWahoo wrote:
The FBI agents that raided Stones residences are working without pay.


Yeah and they conducted a predawn raid with guns and Kevlar vests, after calling CNN.
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Jan 25, 2019 09:30:38   #
wilpharm wrote:
come on Tex,you are better than this...since when is wearing a red hat an invitation to get the shit beat out of you..and kids?????WTF.... would have expected that from twardlo or scared frank..


I just love how feminine hygiene product texcaster wants to protect child molesters. It speaks volumes.
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Jan 25, 2019 09:28:14   #
Kmgw9v wrote:
Seven counts including providing false statements, obstruction, and jury tampering.
I am sure Stone thinks it is something.
Arrested at his home.


Oh, he's in trouble but it's over nothing. This has nothing to do with "collusion." It's all process crimes, used to get people when you can't find a crime.
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Jan 25, 2019 08:53:16   #
Arrested for a process crime. Still nothing, but keep hoping.
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Jan 25, 2019 07:06:47   #
Texcaster wrote:
My word so much emotion and certainty of received speculation! Game Fox!


You are a feminine hygiene product, and the bag in which it came.
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Jan 24, 2019 23:26:33   #
Texcaster wrote:
This thread started as a look at how the media flipped and drove a story to an emotional frenzy. There have been a few thoughtful posts here but mainly this is a hate fest. Go for your life , I hope everything works out for you.

It's a telling symptom that the 'intellectuals' here are in lock step with the real dumb ones. When you got nothing, double down. This news cycle is almost over and this story has been an excellent shutdown diversion. We now have this locked in Fox version to add to the heap.

I doubt we'll ever know what really happened. The only thing I really missed was someone saying ... "good people on both sides".
This thread started as a look at how the media fli... (show quote)

No. You screwed up and tried to go against reality. You also screwed up depending on The Guardian as your source. They're almost as bad as Buzzfeed.

The reason Nathan Phillips acted this way and the MSM twisted the story right away was a diversion. A diversion to overshadow the massive Walk For Life that had just taken place in DC, attended by hundreds of thousands of people. By his little confrontation (not his first one, not even his latest,) the fake Vietnam Vet provided cover for the MSM to ignore the Walk For Life and instead concentrate on destroying children's lives. They would have succeeded if it hadn't been for that more complete video because the story that was created of whole cloth fit the narrative, and who really cares about with Catholic boys anyways, right?

Now that the truth has come out, and rather quickly at that, you disgustingly tried to justify the evil actions of the fake Vietnam Vet and sow confusion and discord. You are lower that a piece of dog excrement stuck under a shoe and now we have your full measure.

And BTW, the fake Vietnam Vet was in fact a refrigerator repairman in the Marines and went AWOL 3 times and started fights. The day after his disgusting actions, he tried to disrupt a church service and was prevented from doing so by security at that church. The donkeyhole has no respect for anything or anyone, he thinks he's entitled to disrupt any activity he does not like. A typical leftist. Just like you.
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Jan 24, 2019 10:06:30   #
Texcaster wrote:
Contrary to indignant attic wingers wishes this mob of red hat dupes are not MAGA heros.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/23/how-conservative-media-transformed-the-covington-catholic-students-from-pariahs-to-heroes

Conservatives have realized they can construct a parallel reality and have it accepted

In just four days, teenager Nick Sandmann and his fellow students at Covington Catholic high school have gone from social media pariahs to conservative heroes

The relentlessly repeated talking point — that there was a collective “rush to judgment” on the boys because they were Trump supporters – was used by conservative anchors Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham to attack mainstream media and left leaning social media users.

On Wednesday morning, Sandmann got almost nine minutes of airtime on a national breakfast program to make his case, after his family hired a Republican-linked PR firm.

In making this happen, conservative media have normalized the boys’ aggressive form of political expression, and tried to further discredit both fact-oriented media and high-profile liberals. Media outlets have been effectively gaslighted, and many climbed down from coverage which was based on the most clear and obvious interpretation of the boys chanting, making gestures and making tomahawk chops.

What it tells us is that in 2019, conservatives understand they can construct a parallel reality and have it accepted. They can act in bad faith and prevail, using tried and tested tactics that liberal media continue to fall for




1. Reframe the debate as soon as possible

A particular version of events based on early footage can always be called into question, and another version put forward as definitive, as more footage, and alternative edits of footage emerge. Partisans can pick and choose, knowing that a definitive version of what happened may not emerge before the news cycle has moved on.

Just as importantly, additional footage allows the discussion to be reframed. Instead of asking why a group of schoolboys were protesting wearing hats that many in the community view as a symbol of racism, conservatives quickly turned it into a game of who approached whom, and began discussing the teenagers as if they were literal martyrs.


2. Pick your narratives

So far, conservative media has been unified and resolute in hammering the narrative that Nathan Philips, a Native American veteran, somehow provoked the boys by coming between them and a small group of Black Hebrew Israelites, to whose insults they had responded with chants.

No amount of additional footage showing their Maga-yelling rowdy behavior and sexist comments before the event – not even clear and concise edits showing how aggressive and provocative the teens were and how calm Phillips was – is capable of knocking them off this course.

If you want a lesson in how this kind of persistence works, look at the coverage from Gateway Pundit since Saturday. Very early on, Jim Hoft recognized the symbolic value of the confrontation, doggedly pushed his own, partial interpretation of events, smeared everyone on the other side, and then brought the entirety of conservative media with him. (Earlier, even some conservative outlets had been critical of the boys). His reward was seeing that version of events trumpeted by Tucker Carlson on Monday night, who also launched a broadside at any conservatives who had wavered from exonerating the teens.

That night, and Tuesday, Carlson’s fellow Fox News hosts were singing from the same songsheet. And if Fox News presents a unified message, the president frequently echoes it.


3. Focus on the extremes of the other side


Another tactic conservative media uses is to only consider the most appalling versions of opposing arguments, and to focus their audience’s anger on reliable scapegoats.

To avoid confronting reasonable arguments or new evidence, conservatives emphasize the worst of the other side – like tweets calling for violence or doxxing. Tweets calling for violence or doxxing against high school students are obviously and clearly unacceptable, but nor are they typical of the criticisms made of the boys, their school and their conduct. They also focus the audience on liberal journalists and celebrities – mostly women – who their audience feel comfortable in deriding and dismissing.

As of Wednesday, as a result of these well-worn tactics, liberal media has almost completely backed away from their initial, justified take on the story.
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Texcaster, you are some piece of work. I would expect a depraved thread like this from Dirtbag or thom w, I was shocked and saddened to see that you could stoop to their low level also.
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Jan 22, 2019 08:44:12   #
LWW wrote:
BigYahoo has clung desperately to this lie and was indignant when I was first to suggest this story had a smell to it.


That's not difficult. His stories ALWAYS have a fishy smell to them. Look at his avatar.
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Jan 22, 2019 08:42:59   #
LWW wrote:
I went to his site and could find nothing even close.

You made the claim, back it up.


Don't hold your breath and whatever he comes back with, verify it because thom w has a habit of falsifying quotes. He's a real loser.
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Jan 22, 2019 08:40:28   #
LWW wrote:
So you can’t back any of it up.


Not only can he not back them up as they are demonstrably false, he likes to threaten people who disagree with his positions and who call him out on his lies. He's a typical lib; a real Nazi.
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Jan 22, 2019 01:40:13   #
I just wanted to take the time to express my utter contempt of the disgusting BigYahoo who started this thread immediately accusing innocent kids of horrible behavior and defending the actions on a demented leftist who attacked the kids. My contempt is also directed at the usual suspects who came to the aid of the disgusting BigYahoo, folks like thom w, kraken, texcaster and especially the contemptible jcboy3.

You have revealed yourselves to be despicable creatures and what's most worrisome is that you are not even troubled that you were so wrong.

Have you no shame?
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Jan 22, 2019 01:26:49   #
WNYShooter wrote:
Maybe he meant the Marine's "Force Recon", but they left the RVN TO in 71.


I seriously doubt that a real Marine would screw up that moniker. He specifically called himself a "recon ranger" and repeated it many times. Also, somehow I find it hard to believe that a real Marine would try to intimidate American kids ; for some reason I keep thinking they are committed to defending them.


Nathan Phillips is now on the radar screen and I suspect we may soon learn more about him.
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Jan 22, 2019 01:20:30   #
mjmoore17 wrote:
But you left out the larger population of murders than immigrants. Republicans still kill and murder more Americans than immigrants. Even by ratio to population, Republicans still commit more crimes including murder than immigrants.

So where did you get those fake statistics? Buzzfeed?

I love the way you conflate immigrants with "illegal immigrants." Very deceptive, very leftist.

So, why is it that the Dims are always pushing to enable felons to vote? Could it be because felons, including murderers, are overwhelmingly likely to vote for the Dims?
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