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May 27, 2014 23:03:34   #
Weddingguy wrote:
That's right . . but 100 ISO for bright days and 400 ISO for dull days and indoors.


I think I deal with that. As of right now, what I do know is wedding and reception are in the park, there will be a pavilion where the dance and cake and stuff will be set up. I have cards, batteries, and a lot of practice shots coming up Friday night during the rehearsal. just not sure if when I'm in the pavilion what I should use might be a tad bit dark if its cloudy. calling for rain :( I don'[t want the pictures to be washed out with the flash.

I really really do so much appreciate you taking your time to respond to my messages and my post.

I think I just except myself to be as perfect as possible.

Thanks Teresa
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May 27, 2014 22:36:33   #
Weddingguy wrote:
You are still not getting tack sharp images, and I suspect that the problem is still the slow shutter speed. I really would not consider shooting at below 1/200th of a second unless on a tripod. Even the best of us can rarely hand hold a camera without camera movement at 1/30th of a second.


Thanks for the info. So I want to make sure I understand this, as long as I keep my shutter at 1/200th and my ISO at 100 even outdoors I should not be overexposed and my photos will not look all blown out? I just want to make sure I'm doing this right. Thanks for the compliment on the last photo.
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May 27, 2014 21:58:25   #
here are a few I took on the beach. Before I ever got on this form and learned all I have the last few months. I did not have the 430EX II flash when I took these, or the lens I have now. I have learned so much about fill the last few weeks. I understand about the shadows now because I can see them. :) Again comments & suggestions for this weekend are greatly appreciated and welcome.

Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1/30 ISO Speed 200 Lens EF-S18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Focal Length 55.0mm

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Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1/30 ISO Speed 200 Focal Length 20.0mm


Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1/30 ISO Speed 200 Focal Length 47.0mm

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May 27, 2014 18:06:38   #
Thanks for the ideas, they are great. I'm gonna try my best to see what they want to do.
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May 27, 2014 08:57:21   #
Carl A wrote:
Where from in Florida ?


Clearwater/Largo Area
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May 27, 2014 08:48:09   #
I just found out the reheasal is Fri evening and I am going to go and get some practice shots and find out where I can stand and how things are suppose to go. This way I can even get a better Idea of what they are doing. Time of day will be different than wedding, but some nice sunset pictures in the making.
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May 27, 2014 07:26:45   #
Thank you so so much. I really appreciate the advice. Hey if I put a few others up will you let me know, they are from down on the beach before I was even reading how to take wedding pictures. Since the wedding is on the beach. I can post them after work today.
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May 26, 2014 23:18:18   #
Here are a few of my test shots from this weekend with my Son & His GF,

so really getting ready for this wedding and learning what I can.

In my heart I know they don't expect all of the pictures to be perfect, but I kinda expect myself to try to get it right as much as possible.

Any advice?

Av 11.0 ISO 200 Focal Length 28.0mm Flash Type External E-TTL Flash Exposure Compensation -1/3

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Av 8.0 Focal Length 50.0mm Flash Exposure Compensation -1/3

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Av 4.5 Focal Length 50.0mm

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this was just to good to pass up.

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May 26, 2014 22:58:23   #
I have to agree, Thank you all so much for all the advice. I promise to post a few of the pictures after the wedding. Yes my head is spinning, but it is all good, I'm taking it all in.
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May 26, 2014 22:57:06   #
Weddingguy wrote:
My guess is that your head will be spinning by now. You have received some very good advice . . . and some very bad advice . . . and some advice that would take literally months of hard work and thousands of practice shots to learn. I don't think you have the time (June 1st is closing in quickly), and probably not the inclination to become a "pro" for this wedding . . . but you do have the time to learn a few simple steps that will make you look like a whiz as an amateur.

I shoot over 25 weddings a year, and have been doing so for over 40 years . . . that's approaching 1000 weddings. For many of those I had an assistant that I had carry a camera and flash to take extra shots while they were not assisting me with off camera lighting, etc.. I set them up with a few simple settings that allowed them to get consistent results with little or no previous experience . . . so I will share those settings with you.

1) I would strongly suggest renting a 24-70mm F/2.8L lens for the day. You will be in several different venues during the day, some of which will be such low light that your present lenses will be challenged to get focused both quickly enough and accurately enough to get consistent results. Even though you may not wish to shoot at F/2.8 . . . your camera does have to see to focus. Especially with flash, when you zoom in with your variable F/stop lenses, you will be limited to the F/6.3 ability of your lenses at longer focal lengths . . . your flash results will suffer and ambient light will be non existent.

2) Far more important than "bokeh" . . . which is a subject tossed around far to much for wedding photography . . . is having lots of DOF (depth of field) for multiples of people at different distances from the camera. Let's work on getting both the bride AND the groom in focus, and if we are lucky, it would be nice to have some of the bridal party in sharp focus as well. Bokeh be damned!

3) For you, as the chosen one, your most important assignment will be to be at the wedding rehearsal. This is where you get to know all of the most important people that will be attending the wedding. This is where you discover the events that will take place during the ceremony, where you can be to get the best shots, from what direction the groom and groomsmen will be arriving, which aisle will the bride and her dad be coming down, how fast the bridesmaids will be following, where to be when the bride kisses her dad with tears in her eyes, etc, etc, etc.. This is also when you get your test shots of all the challenges that the ceremony offers. BE THERE!

4) Someone suggested the Lite-Scoop flash modifier . . . good choice and before you order it, watch this video.
http://youtu.be/-qR3owdOM6U
I've seen many a photographer using it incorrectly because they either didn't understand, or never bothered to read the instructions. I never use my flash without the Scoop attached.

5) Camera settings . . . only two to remember . . 90% consistently perfect exposure. If you wonder why you need to use any of these settings, please ask. I don't want to make this a book. :-))

Indoors . . . camera set on manual . . . ISO 400 . . . Shutter speed 1/200th sec . . . aperture F/4.5. (**** If your lens will not stay on F/4.5 throughout it's zoom range, limit the range of the zoom that you use or rent a constant F/stop lens)
For real close ups or long shots change your FEC (flash exposure compensation) accordingly. With Lite-Scoop start FEC set at + 2/3rd stop.

Outdoors . . . Camera set on TV . . . Bright day (sun, hazy sun, beach, etc.) ISO 100 . . . dull day or dusk ISO 400 . . . shutter speed 1/200th sec. . . . flash on TTL with FEC set at -1/2.For real close ups or long shots change your FEC accordingly.
With Lite-Scoop start FEC set at +-0 stop.

Do not use AV or P setting on the camera when using flash. The flash will limit the shutter speed to the sync speed when outdoors and will cause massive overexposure. Indoors it will slow the shutter to a slow speed that will cause camera and subject movement blur enough to ruin many images. High speed sync is OK to use outdoors, but not for an entire wedding as it will overheat the flash, use too much battery power, and limit the total power of the flash.

Back up equipment is a good idea. Too many flash and camera batteries is a very good idea. Lots of memory cards is a must . . always have more than you need . . and four 8GB cards are a better idea than one 32GB card. Don't keep them in your camera bag, keep them in your pocket where they can't be lost or stolen.

When in doubt . . . shoot it . . . the cake, the candle, the place settings, the flowers, the rings, anything . . . you can chuck it later, but you can't shoot it later.

Have fun and enjoy the wedding. Sit down and eat with them . . . nobody should have their picture taken while eating anyway. Ask to be seated where you can shoot what's going on at the head table. Give your extra equipment and camera bag to the DJ to watch for you. It's big business dressing up and stealing photography equipment at weddings . . don't be a victim.

Good luck . . . you're braver than I! :thumbup:
My guess is that your head will be spinning by now... (show quote)



Thank you so much for all the advice. this I can understand, I can't afford to rent a lens since this is a favor, but I will try to keep my current lens fixed and not zoom as much as I normally do, I think I need to learn just to get a bit closer and go with it. this really helps me out alot. I needed this info. Still learning the flash, so hopefully it will work with what I'm doing.

Outdoors . . . Camera set on TV . . . Bright day (sun, hazy sun, beach, etc.) ISO 100 . . . dull day or dusk ISO 400 . . . shutter speed 1/200th sec. . . . flash on TTL with FEC set at -1/2.For real close ups or long shots change your FEC accordingly.
With Lite-Scoop start FEC set at +-0 stop. St
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May 26, 2014 16:44:32   #
Thank you all so much for all the replies. Yes, I should have stated that I do shoot in Raw and convert, that is the only way I was taught. I have not totally learned how to use any kinda photoshop program, but working on it. I have found out the person who is Officiating the wedding is my cousin who is a Notary, a few of my other cousins are in the wedding party did not know this until today. All parties including the bride/groom know I am not a professional they are just glad that someone offered to take pictures that are not cell phone or point and shoot, and they have seen some of the pictures I took of my son/GF Maternity pictures, and of the baby.(Which they loved) The wedding is in a park on the water. Wedding time is 2pm with reception to follow in a pavilion in the park. Very relaxed. I did find out that the bride wants a few of the traditional pictures, first dance, cutting of cake, and before wedding and of wedding. she said whatever I can give her she will be happy. I'm really worried about the sunlight and overexposure of the pictures. Any suggestions would be great.
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May 25, 2014 22:08:24   #
On the ND filter any recomendations. Im looking at adjustable drom nd2 to nd400 from neewer.
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May 25, 2014 10:28:24   #
Hi, I have been reading post and looking at photos for months. Now I'm gonna be brave and ask a few question. Please don't start off with saying don't do it. First let me give you the info. I'm not a professional, the couple does understand this, I'm doing as a favor because they could not afford a professional. Not charging, (oh and I don't know how to Photoshop so what they see it what they get) its a going to be at a park near the water in Florida June 1, (oh its gonna be hot). Shady & Sunny. I have a Canon Rebel XS, (yes I know not the best) I have all canon lenses, however I don't want to change a lot due to being outside and on the water. I have a 72mm 18-200mm F1:3.5-5.6, it has a UV and Polarized filter on it. I have a 50MM 1.8. I have a few more lens choices, kit & 75-300 don't think I need. I do also have a 430 EX II flash. I'm going out today to take some pictures of my family using this stuff at the same hour as the wedding. I pretty much know to stay between F5 and F11. ISO about 200, using AV, Raw files, and AL FOCUS with a WB on Sunny. I just don't understand the fill flash. Can I get some advice on which way to aim the flash?
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May 25, 2014 09:59:18   #
New to photography, just really getting into it a lot more. love reading all the forms.
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